On 13 February 2015 at 06:52, Dean Bedford dbedford@... [just-a-minute] <just-a-minute@...> wrote:I've done the work and came up with a list of those who went the full 60 on debut.... the blog post is here Just A Minute blog: David Tennant's first
I listened to David’s very thrilling round a couple of times and the only word that was repeated once that I could spot was the word (something). So I think he deserved the two points. Has anyone spotted any other repetitions that the others let go?
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Amro
I've done the work and came up with a list of those who went the full 60 on debut.... the blog post is here Just A Minute blog: David Tennant's first
>Actually, I think he was worse in the 90s! I know we've discussed this
> Bill and all. Yes, and I snigger at times when Nicholas starts going
> on about how he has to do a mental replay of what a player has just
> said to allow a challenge of repetition or not! Many times his verdict
> is not accurate to be honest. Though I can only comment on the past
> few years of JAM.
Ah yes, you’re right, “stage” was indeed repeated. Although I listened to Tennant’s round three times before I still missed it! My excuse is that “stage” was used as a verb “how you stage this” and repeated as a noun “with a stage technology”, and I imagine because of this that one mentally would perceive them as two different words even they are the same word. Well, this is what I say to myself anyway!
I’m going to show my total ignorance by asking, what is PM please?
I haven’t listened to many of the 90s shows so I’ll keep my ears open as it were next time when listening!
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Amro
Ah. Many thanks for this Dave. Remind
me, did I say I was showing an utter ignorance?
I’ll go grab those two broadcasts you mentioned from iPlayer.
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Amro
> I still ! fantasise about making a spreadsheet of wrong challenges forYeah me too, such a spreadsheet would be really interesting to read.
> repetition, who they were made by, and whether Nic was right or wrong
> in his recall, and who suffered if they lost the subject wrongly, or
> who suffered if they failed incorrectly to win the point, and who
> wrongly won the point.
>I agree. And I love Nic, who doesn't. It would just be interresting to
> Clement's summary of Nic in that TV documentary says it all. He is a
> sho! wman.
On 17 February 2015 at 10:13, Espen Krømke espen.kromke@... [just-a-minute] <just-a-minute@...> wrote:Den 13. feb. 2015 20:02, skrev Dave B pondydave@...
[just-a-minute]:
> I still ! fantasise about making a spreadsheet of wrong challenges for
> repetition, who they were made by, and whether Nic was right or wrong
> in his recall, and who suffered if they lost the subject wrongly, or
> who suffered if they failed incorrectly to win the point, and who
> wrongly won the point.
Yeah me too, such a spreadsheet would be really interesting to read.
Just on the repetition challenges, where there is a definitive answer.
>
> Clement's summary of Nic in that TV documentary says it all. He is a
> sho! wman.
I agree. And I love Nic, who doesn't. It would just be interresting to
see statistics just for the sake of the information.
I think he went more "with the flow" back then, and didn't really pay
that much attention. Or so it sounded. He also very often changed ruling
based on the feedback from the panel. I often got the impression he
wasn't as on top of the game as he became later.
But I may be wrong. Stats would prove me so. :)
On 17 February 2015 at 21:13, Espen Krømke espen.kromke@... [just-a-minute] <just-a-minute@...> wrote:Den 13. feb. 2015 20:02, skrev Dave B pondydave@...
[just-a-minute]:
> I still ! fantasise about making a spreadsheet of wrong challenges for
> repetition, who they were made by, and whether Nic was right or wrong
> in his recall, and who suffered if they lost the subject wrongly, or
> who suffered if they failed incorrectly to win the point, and who
> wrongly won the point.
Yeah me too, such a spreadsheet would be really interesting to read.
Just on the repetition challenges, where there is a definitive answer.
>
> Clement's summary of Nic in that TV documentary says it all. He is a
> sho! wman.
I agree. And I love Nic, who doesn't. It would just be interresting to
see statistics just for the sake of the information.
I think he went more "with the flow" back then, and didn't really pay
that much attention. Or so it sounded. He also very often changed ruling
based on the feedback from the panel. I often got the impression he
wasn't as on top of the game as he became later.
But I may be wrong. Stats would prove me so. :)
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 6:03 AM, Bill Robinson airbaggins@... [just-a-minute] <just-a-minute@...> wrote:"What I often do in these situations... is ask for the input from the just-a-minute mailing list.... so all email 'yay' for Clement and 'boo' for Tennant after three: one, two three..."On 17 February 2015 at 10:13, Espen Krømke espen.kromke@... [just-a-minute] <just-a-minute@...> wrote:Den 13. feb. 2015 20:02, skrev Dave B pondydave@...
[just-a-minute]:
> I still ! fantasise about making a spreadsheet of wrong challenges for
> repetition, who they were made by, and whether Nic was right or wrong
> in his recall, and who suffered if they lost the subject wrongly, or
> who suffered if they failed incorrectly to win the point, and who
> wrongly won the point.
Yeah me too, such a spreadsheet would be really interesting to read.
Just on the repetition challenges, where there is a definitive answer.
>
> Clement's summary of Nic in that TV documentary says it all. He is a
> sho! wman.
I agree. And I love Nic, who doesn't. It would just be interresting to
see statistics just for the sake of the information.
I think he went more "with the flow" back then, and didn't really pay
that much attention. Or so it sounded. He also very often changed ruling
based on the feedback from the panel. I often got the impression he
wasn't as on top of the game as he became later.
But I may be wrong. Stats would prove me so. :)
--James R Curry
Ask the audience brings up its own discussion.Ok. Nic hardly does it any more but when he did:How often did he leave the audience completely flummoxed as to what he had just asked? Sometimes it was clear, cheer for Kenneth, boo for Clement (and is that showing bias?),but sometimes the cheer and boo he requested could be to support the same outcomesometimes Nic forgot what he had just asked and had no idea who the cheers/boos were forAnd he arbitrarily allocated point and subject.Dave

I'm afraid I must get off the fence and say I agree with Mark. I do get the feeling that he thinks of Just a Minute as his programme and its success is thanks to him. In fairness to Nic, my opinion may come from the way the media handle a chairman of Nic's great age; without Nic I don't think the programme would have lasted this long and I wonder about the direction it might take when Nic can no longer chair it.
Antony.
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Tennant's first
<Warning - unflattering Nicholas comments follow>
I don't mean to be unkind, but a lot of my pleasure listening to JAM is Nicholas bumping into walls and embarrassing himself when he's at his highest level of preenworthy pomposity and vanity.
He's the embarrassing try-too-hard great-uncle who sincerely thinks he's the life of the party with a responsibility to be entertaining with his Hamish/Dougal Scottish accents, his faux-French, or his umpteenth rendition of the same old story when all the other guests are wondering who he is and who invited him.
An image of Alan Partridge's dad in a gaudy waistcoat springs to mind.
Now I really understand how Clement Freud must have felt... a bit like Kenneth Branagh cast as the Gravedigger while Nicholas plays Hamlet, trips, and falls head-first off the stage (only to leap back, beaming, and declare, "I meant to do that! Aha!")
I feel better now.
Iconoclasm completed. Let the reverence resume.
My apologies to devout Nicholas-admirers.
Mark
On 18 February 2015 at 16:20, Dave B pondydave@... [just-a-minute] <just-a-minute@...> wrote:
Ask the audience brings up its own discussion.
Ok. Nic hardly does it any more but when he did:
How often did he leave the audience completely flummoxed as to what he had just asked? Sometimes it was clear, cheer for Kenneth, boo for Clement (and is that showing bias?),
but sometimes the cheer and boo he requested could be to support the same outcome
sometimes Nic forgot what he had just asked and had no idea who the cheers/boos were for
And he arbitrarily allocated point and subject.
Dave
--
Mark
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<Warning - unflattering Nicholas comments follow>I don't mean to be unkind, but a lot of my pleasure listening to JAM is Nicholas bumping into walls and embarrassing himself when he's at his highest level of preenworthy pomposity and vanity.He's the embarrassing try-too-hard great-uncle who sincerely thinks he's the life of the party with a responsibility to be entertaining with his Hamish/Dougal Scottish accents, his faux-French, or his umpteenth rendition of the same old story when all the other guests are wondering who he is and who invited him.An image of Alan Partridge's dad in a gaudy waistcoat springs to mind.Now I really understand how Clement Freud must have felt... a bit like Kenneth Branagh cast as the Gravedigger while Nicholas plays Hamlet, trips, and falls head-first off the stage (only to leap back, beaming, and declare, "I meant to do that! Aha!")I feel better now.Iconoclasm completed. Let the reverence resume.My apologies to devout Nicholas-admirers.Mark
On 23 February 2015 at 15:06, Dave B pondydave@... [just-a-minute] <just-a-minute@...> wrote:In the very early days they revolved the chairmanship just a few times. The others were as bad at chairing as Nic was as a contestant. Well maybe...But this is before JAM found its shape, before it recognised itself as a full blown comedy show.It is a shame once the four boys got into their rhythm they never revolved the chair....that would have been interesting.I imagine if Nic retires they may well try a bit of revolving. Before settling down to a format without hesitation, deviation, repetition or revolution.Am I deviating?
"Sometimes I wonder to myself who could/would take over if/when Nick steps down... Anyone have any ideas?"
Yes. David Mitchell. My favourite! He’s clever and very witty and at the same time he has this traditional air about his persona that makes him, IMHO, fit to chare such a program. What do you think?
Best
Amro
In the very early days they revolved the chairmanship just a few times. The others were as bad at chairing as Nic was as a contestant. Well maybe...But this is before JAM found its shape, before it recognised itself as a full blown comedy show.It is a shame once the four boys got into their rhythm they never revolved the chair....that would have been interesting.I imagine if Nic retires they may well try a bit of revolving. Before settling down to a format without hesitation, deviation, repetition or revolution.Am I deviating?
On Feb 23, 2015, at 12:34 PM, 'Amro Bilal' Amro_Bilal@... [just-a-minute] <just-a-minute@...> wrote:
"Sometimes I wonder to myself who could/would take over if/when Nick steps down... Anyone have any ideas?"
Yes. David Mitchell. My favourite! He’s clever and very witty and at the same time he has this traditional air about his persona that makes him, IMHO, fit to chare such a program. What do you think?
Best
Amro
From: mailto:just-a-minute@...Sent: Monday, February 23, 2015 3:52 PMSubject: Re: [just-a-minute] David Tennant's firstSometimes I wonder to myself who could/would take over if/when Nick steps down... Maybe it's uncool to even mention it, but I do find myself considering it sometimes. Anyone have any ideas?On 23 February 2015 at 15:06, Dave B pondydave@... [just-a-minute] <just-a-minute@...> wrote:In the very early days they revolved the chairmanship just a few times. The others were as bad at chairing as Nic was as a contestant. Well maybe...But this is before JAM found its shape, before it recognised itself as a full blown comedy show.It is a shame once the four boys got into their rhythm they never revolved the chair....that would have been interesting.I imagine if Nic retires they may well try a bit of revolving. Before settling down to a format without hesitation, deviation, repetition or revolution.Am I deviating?
On 24 February 2015 at 04:34, 'Amro Bilal' Amro_Bilal@... [just-a-minute] <just-a-minute@...> wrote:"Sometimes I wonder to myself who could/would take over if/when Nick steps down... Anyone have any ideas?"
Yes. David Mitchell. My favourite! He’s clever and very witty and at the same time he has this traditional air about his persona that makes him, IMHO, fit to chare such a program. What do you think?
Best
Amro
From: mailto:just-a-minute@...Sent: Monday, February 23, 2015 3:52 PMSubject: Re: [just-a-minute] David Tennant's firstSometimes I wonder to myself who could/would take over if/when Nick steps down... Maybe it's uncool to even mention it, but I do find myself considering it sometimes. Anyone have any ideas?On 23 February 2015 at 15:06, Dave B pondydave@... [just-a-minute] <just-a-minute@...> wrote:In the very early days they revolved the chairmanship just a few times. The others were as bad at chairing as Nic was as a contestant. Well maybe...But this is before JAM found its shape, before it recognised itself as a full blown comedy show.It is a shame once the four boys got into their rhythm they never revolved the chair....that would have been interesting.I imagine if Nic retires they may well try a bit of revolving. Before settling down to a format without hesitation, deviation, repetition or revolution.Am I deviating?__.--Mark
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