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Amro wrote:
Not sure if you’re aware of this but all BBC radio programmes become available on the BBC iPlayer website to listen to again online for about three weeks after their broadcast.
That may be the case over there, but here "across the pond", we do not have access to these programs. I cannot get them to play. So the links you provide for us about a particular show are rather pointless.
Tallguy
I can't see why radio iPlayer would not work in the US. It works here in Oz.
True, TV iPlayer doesn't work (without a little black magic, that is ;-) but radio should work.
And the links are not pointless: not everything is meant solely for Americans.
There are other people in the world too. Hmphh.
Mark
On 8 May 2016 at 05:46, Tallguy tallguy403@... [just-a-minute] <just-a-minute@...> wrote:Amro wrote:Not sure if you’re aware of this but all BBC radio programmes become available on the BBC iPlayer website to listen to again online for about three weeks after their broadcast.That may be the case over there, but here "across the pond", we do not have access to these programs. I cannot get them to play. So the links you provide for us about a particular show are rather pointless.Tallguy--
Listeners around the world can always gain access to the UK iPlayer content by presenting themselves as coming from a fake UK address, through a VPN or some kind of proxy. These services are available in various degrees of legality, both free and fee-paying: ask Google.
Indeed, a VPN can bypass arbitrary regional limits (e.g. for iPlayer TV content), but surely iPlayer's radio content is available worldwide.
I'm sure other Muricans on this list have referred to getting iPlayer radio shows.
On 9 May 2016 at 04:05, golux@... [just-a-minute] <just-a-minute@...> wrote:INFORMATION for our colonial cousins who may be languishing in the remoter corners of the Empire:Listeners around the world can always gain access to the UK iPlayer content by presenting themselves as coming from a fake UK address, through a VPN or some kind of proxy. These services are available in various degrees of legality, both free and fee-paying: ask Google.--
I'm not sure if this is still the case or not, but in my experience the Radio iPlayer servers content at a lower bitrate if you're outside of the UK.
On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 8:28 PM, Mark sirnylon@... [just-a-minute] <just-a-minute@...> wrote:Indeed, a VPN can bypass arbitrary regional limits (e.g. for iPlayer TV content), but surely iPlayer's radio content is available worldwide.I'm sure other Muricans on this list have referred to getting iPlayer radio shows.On 9 May 2016 at 04:05, golux@... [just-a-minute] <just-a-minute@...> wrote:INFORMATION for our colonial cousins who may be languishing in the remoter corners of the Empire:Listeners around the world can always gain access to the UK iPlayer content by presenting themselves as coming from a fake UK address, through a VPN or some kind of proxy. These services are available in various degrees of legality, both free and fee-paying: ask Google.----James R Curry
In Australia I get 44.1 KHz sampling at 16 bit sample size (CD quality) - and this is without using an anonymous proxy to disguise my location.
Are then any Poms out there who can attest to the quality they get from iPlayer?
On 9 May 2016 at 11:38, James R Curry scratchy@... [just-a-minute] <just-a-minute@...> wrote:I'm not sure if this is still the case or not, but in my experience the Radio iPlayer servers content at a lower bitrate if you're outside of the UK.On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 8:28 PM, Mark sirnylon@... [just-a-minute] <just-a-minute@...> wrote:Indeed, a VPN can bypass arbitrary regional limits (e.g. for iPlayer TV content), but surely iPlayer's radio content is available worldwide.I'm sure other Muricans on this list have referred to getting iPlayer radio shows.On 9 May 2016 at 04:05, golux@... [just-a-minute] <just-a-minute@...> wrote:INFORMATION for our colonial cousins who may be languishing in the remoter corners of the Empire:Listeners around the world can always gain access to the UK iPlayer content by presenting themselves as coming from a fake UK address, through a VPN or some kind of proxy. These services are available in various degrees of legality, both free and fee-paying: ask Google.----James R Curry--
Update.
To test whether iPlayer reduces sound quality for overseas countries, I turned on my VPN ('Private Internet Access') and told it I was in London.
I downloaded this week's Desert Island Discs (Tom Hanks). Internet Download Manager (which I use to grab iPlayer files) reported that the audio source file was 96 Kbps.
The audio file came in an FLV container with an AAC LC-SBR stereo audio stream.
The FLV file size was 30.53 MB for 43 minutes of audio.
The reported sample rate of the audio stream was 48 Kbps (not 44.1 as I said before) at 16 bits per sample (DVD quality).
I ripped the audio from the FLV using Abyssmedia's 'FLV to MP3 converter' (but chose WAV instead of MP3 to prevent loss of quality due to compression).
The resultant uncompressed WAV file was 470.8 MB.
Saved as losslessly-compressed FLAC file, it was 271 MB.
Lossy-compressed MP3 was 58.86 MB.
As an experiment, I downloaded the same file again with the VPN turned off and the file's size and sample rate were exactly the same as when the VPN was turned on.
So it seems that the supposed country of download does not affect download quality. At least in this case. It would be interesting to hear from other countries.
Mark
P.S. When I saw that this week's DID was Tom Hanks I shuddered because DID often replays old episodes of people who have just died.
Sometimes I see a DID name like Victoria Wood and think, "Oh, goody. She has just done DID so she must still be doing well. I was wondering about her" ... and then I find she died yesterday.
Now before I download a DID broadcast, I google the obits to find out which case it is.
On 9 May 2016 at 11:54, Mark <mark@...> wrote:In Australia I get 44.1 KHz sampling at 16 bit sample size (CD quality) - and this is without using an anonymous proxy to disguise my location.Are then any Poms out there who can attest to the quality they get from iPlayer?On 9 May 2016 at 11:38, James R Curry scratchy@... [just-a-minute] <just-a-minute@...> wrote:I'm not sure if this is still the case or not, but in my experience the Radio iPlayer servers content at a lower bitrate if you're outside of the UK.On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 8:28 PM, Mark sirnylon@... [just-a-minute] <just-a-minute@...> wrote:Indeed, a VPN can bypass arbitrary regional limits (e.g. for iPlayer TV content), but surely iPlayer's radio content is available worldwide.I'm sure other Muricans on this list have referred to getting iPlayer radio shows.On 9 May 2016 at 04:05, golux@... [just-a-minute] <just-a-minute@...> wrote:INFORMATION for our colonial cousins who may be languishing in the remoter corners of the Empire:Listeners around the world can always gain access to the UK iPlayer content by presenting themselves as coming from a fake UK address, through a VPN or some kind of proxy. These services are available in various degrees of legality, both free and fee-paying: ask Google.----James R Curry----
Just to compare downloads - I live in South Korea.
Last Sunday I downloaded Desert Island Discs (Tom Hanks) with get_iplayer. However, it was not the original show it was a podcast - even though I downloaded it through get_iplayer. More talking and less music. Therefore, this may not have been a typical download.
I downloaded last Monday's The Unbelievable Truth and got an mp4a stereo file sample rate 48000 Hz, AAC extension: SBR. The file size was 12.5 MB.
This is more of the typical download that I get using get_iplayer.
I have NEVER downloaded or watched any TV through the iplayer. However, I have a co-worker who is able to use a VPN to access TV. Most radio is available but not all. For example on Radio 3 I can download the Thursday afternoon opera but not always the one on Saturday afternoon. Not sure why. Fortunately I am not a big opera fan.
Also for some reason my downloads from Radio3 are either quiet or lower quality.
Also URL links on BBC stories can be different within the UK and outside the UK. So if I post a link to a BBC story to a friend in the UK I usually post the story title in case they need to search for it.
I hope this is of interest to some.
Yours, David Rogers
I live in Canada, and I manage to be able to download Radio 4 streams via the get_iplayer program, which I use to convert the streams into 128kbps MP3 files (which, for me, is just fine for speech).
Emile
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