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Re: Nice story about Clement.

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nylonJun 15, 2016

And I can only hope and pray that the BBC does not recoil in retrospective knee-jerk horror and cripple the show's past, present and future.

The man is long dead. The horrors linger for his victims, but he was not and is not the show.

A Stalinist revision of JAM history by the BBC to wipe Clement from the record would achieve nothing for anybody - even his victims. It would not help them, nor undo what he is said to have done. Would Hansard redact all of Freud's historical speeches in parliament?

Pretending that he never existed would be as as childish as sticking one's fingers in one's ears and shouting "NA NA NA NA NA NA NA" whenever one hears him speak during an episode of JAM. In fact, I think it would be worse. Pretending that atrocities never happened can only lead to them happening again. If lessons learnt from Jimmy Savile or Rolf or Cosby or King George VI - or a hundred other similar cases were buried and hoped to be forgotten, others could more easily arise.

Some brutal historical facts need to be remembered so they will not be repeated. Fourteen countries have laws against denying the holocaust for this reason.

I think we are intelligent enough to understand that Clement may have been a predatory and repellent reptile without having to smear JAM and its other contributors with the same ordure. Let us and the BBC censure the man and vile acts without harming innocent people.

Let me add that the photo of him in the Daily Mail is as creepy as hell.

Mark

P.S. Damn, this light-hearted mailing list got unfunny REALLY quickly.

On 16 June 2016 at 12:21, 'Amro Bilal' Amro_Bilal@... [just-a-minute] <just-a-minute@...> wrote:

Thanks for this, Dean. Good three articles. Brandreth's is very revealing. I think the following passage from the Telegraph's article sums his contribution to JAM nicely: "Freud was never a cuddly stalwart of the Just a Minute panel. Nor does
he rank among its most characterful players: he lacked the electrifying elan of Kenneth Williams, the wry warmth of Sheila Hancock,
the deadpan whimsicality of Paul Merton.

But his wit and erudition was admirable, his emphatic delivery unmistakable, and his tenacity as a competitor added a welcome sense of it all mattering
hugely, for half an hour."

Dare I suggest 'The elephant in the room' as the opening topic for the next JAM season? *too soon for these kind of remarks?*

I feel sorry for Clement's family, but above all, for the young girls whom affected by his unspeakable actions.

From: mailto:just-a-minute@...
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 12:19 AM
To: just-a-minute@...
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: Nice story about Clement.

they have finished recording the current season.

my sad thoughts on this here Just A Minute blog: Clement Freud

Gyles Brandreth with his thoughts on Clement here http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/the-filter/gyles-brandreth-the-clement-freud-i-knew/

and the Telegraph asks if JAM will be tainted forever here http://www.telegraph.co.uk/radio/radio-presenters/has-clement-freud-tarnished-just-a-minute-forever/

what sad news :(

On Thursday, 16 June 2016 5:08 AM, "Anthony Hobson antster1983@... [just-a-minute]" <just-a-minute@...> wrote:

When Nicholas finds all this out he's going to be heartbroken!

On Wednesday, 15 June 2016, 16:50, "'Amro Bilal' Amro_Bilal@... [just-a-minute]" <just-a-minute@...> wrote:

I didn't think of that. What a huge mess. I do feel for NP to have his life project tainted like this the poor sod.

Does anyone know if they've actually finished recording the current season?

From: mailto:just-a-minute@...
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 3:23 PM
To: just-a-minute@...
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: Nice story about Clement.

Of course this now means the BBC will no longer repeat any shows featuring Clement, so that's 539 JAMs that won't be broadcast ever again, including the elusive S09E15 that I was hoping was going to show up on one of the archive releases at some point. :-(

--

Mark
mark at nylon dot net
http://nylon.net

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