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Topic: JAM downloading guide

Message 1 / 13
KrisJul 21, 2007
 

 
Here's my JAM downloading guide Version 1.0.0:

Feel free to contact me off-list if you have any questions, as I tried
to be as straightforward as possible.

How to download JAM in a few easy steps:

JAM Downloading Guide v1.0.0

Software you will need:

Web browser - Netscape, IE, Firefox, Opera, etc...
Text editor - Notepad, Wordpad, Office, OpenOffice, etc...
Download manager - FlashGet is my personal choice of software.


----------

Step 1:

In your browser, visit:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/comedy/justaminute.shtml

This will bring up Radio 4's JAM webpage.
Click on the "Listen Again" icon on the right hand side of the screen.
This will bring up a pop-up screen with Auntie's own media player.

You can pause the stream, as the playing of the file is not necessary.

Firefox: With your mouse hovering over the 'Play/Pause' button, right click,
then select "This Frame" then "View Frame Source".

IE: Underneath the 'Play/Pause' button, right click and select "View Source"

The source code will open up. This will be a lot of HTML code, but don't
worry.
Simply find ".ram" in the document.

This will, for example give us:


<a href="/radio/aod/shows/rpms/radio4/just.ram">

This is the file that tells the software where the audio file is.


Now, paste in the full URL to the file:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/shows/rpms/radio4/just.ram

A box will pop up, asking you to save the file.

Do this.



Step 2:

Open up the save .ram file in your choice of text editor.

You will see something like:

rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio4/comedy/mon1830.ra?BBC-UID=d44619c53b848ec0dd2921eaf1c48fc27c870a9d20c0e121c2e263b39454b565&SSO2-UID=


Highlight the rtsp: through to the .ra

This is also the address you can input into your RealPlayer software to
listen to the complete file.

To download the actual file, go on to the next step:


Step 3:

Open up the download manager software.
Copy the rtsp: address into the URL of the software.
For FlashGet, you would select File -> New Download.

FlashGet will then begin to get the file and save it to a folder on your HD.



-------


NOTES:

In all honesty, that RTSP URL never changes.
You will have to rename each week's file after you recieve it, so it
won't over-write itself
week after week.

The file can be converted to MP3 with whatever software you may have at
hand. I don't know
of any freeware converters off of the top of my head, but I do use
"Audacity", a freeware MP3
editor once I get the file converted to remove the announcers before and
after.

Auntie Beeb puts the half-hours/hours out in blocks, so if a show runs
over, you have
to acquire both 'blocks' to get the whole program. That's why the URL
never changes week after week.
I use the same URL to acquire the ISIHAC episodes as well.

 
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Topic: Re: JAM downloading guide

Message 2 / 13
Dean BedfordJul 22, 2007
 

 
On Sunday, July 22, 2007, at 09:24 AM, Kris wrote:

> Here's my JAM downloading guide Version 1.0.0:

Comments please ... we should place this on the group website but if
anyone has ideas on any improvements that could be made, please step
forward...

 
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Topic: Re: JAM downloading guide

Message 3 / 13
Gregory AugerJul 24, 2007
 

 
I use the following program for converting to mp3. Its very slow but works for free:

http://www.mediafire.com/?1oyzbb54jmd

 
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Topic: Re: JAM downloading guide

Message 4 / 13
chongy5Jul 24, 2007
 

 
I use mplayer scripts to convert the .ra file to .wav, and then
convert that to .mp3.

Uses LAME, although it looks complex all you need to do is place the
.ra in the same directory as the batch scripts, click one script and
it will convert to wav, click the other script and it will convert the
wav to mp3.

You can tinker with the settings since it is LAME (probably the most
widely known mp3 encoder). All freeware, no buggy software or rubbish
encoder.

 
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Topic: Re: JAM downloading guide

Message 5 / 13
Gregory AugerJul 24, 2007
 

 
Can you tell me how to do that?

Currently under Ubuntu I use:
"mplayer rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio4/comedy/mon1830.ra -dumpstream -dumpfile JAMlatestprogram.ra" to download.

How can I convert it.

On 24/07/07, chongy5 <chongy5@...> wrote:
>          
>    
>    
>        
>              
>
> I use mplayer scripts to convert the .ra file to .wav, and then
>  convert that to .mp3.
>  
>  Uses LAME, although it looks complex all you need to do is place the
>  .ra in the same directory as the batch scripts, click one script and
>  it will convert to wav, click the other script and it will convert the
>  wav to mp3.
>  
>  You can tinker with the settings since it is LAME (probably the most
>  widely known mp3 encoder). All freeware, no buggy software or rubbish
>  encoder.
>  
>                              

 
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Topic: Re: JAM downloading guide

Message 6 / 13
chongy5Jul 24, 2007
 

 
Oh I'm lazy, I use something like FlashGet or Streambox (Windows, I
know) to download it to .ra, then:

RM/RA to WAV:
for %%I in ("*.rm" "*.ram" "*.ra") do mplayer "%%I" -ao
pcm:fast:file="%%~nI.wav" -vc null -vo null

WAV to mp3:
for %%I in (*.wav) do lame -V 5 --vbr-new --priority 0 "%%I" "%%~nI.mp3"

These will convert ALL real media files in the directory into wav
files, and the second one will convert ALL wav files in the directory
into mp3s.

Converting to mp3, you can change the '-V5' part to how you wish, this
changes what bitrate it encodes to (this is all VBR, so its the
average given bitrate). Go here for different recommend settings:

http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=LAME#Detailed_explanation_.28long_answer.29

Any more questions? Willing to help if necessary, great stuff on here.
By the way for whoever uploaded ISIHAC, great! I didn't know that
S01E04 episode even existed!

 
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Topic: Re: JAM downloading guide

Message 7 / 13
cymroJul 24, 2007
 

 

> By the way for whoever uploaded ISIHAC, great! I didn't know that
> S01E04 episode even existed!
>

No problem!!! I have all but around 15 episodes - and will be
uploading them all!

 
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Topic: Re: JAM downloading guide

Message 8 / 13
chongy5Jul 24, 2007
 

 
And I thought my collection of 350 episodes was quite super!

As you or someone else said, however, there are tons which are bound
to be mislabelled, incorrectly dated and accidentally put in the wrong
series.

 
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Topic: Re: JAM downloading guide

Message 9 / 13
cymroJul 24, 2007
 

 
--- In just-a-minute@..., "chongy5" <chongy5@...> wrote:

>
> And I thought my collection of 350 episodes was quite super!
>
> As you or someone else said, however, there are tons which are bound
> to be mislabelled, incorrectly dated and accidentally put in the wrong
> series.
>

Thankfully - none of these are mislabelled, or incorrectly dated -
these are all correct!! So enjoy!

 
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Topic: Re: JAM downloading guide

Message 10 / 13
Gregory AugerJul 25, 2007
 

 
My Windows XP method:

1. Open the URL Snooper program (http://www.donationcoder.com/Software/Mouser/urlsnooper). Under the 'Protocol Filter' select 'Multimedia URLS (simplify all)'. Then click the 'Snif Network' button.

2. Play the program from the listen again page (http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/mainframe.shtml) in your web browser (e.g. Internet Explorer).

3. Go back to URL Snooper. A new entry should have appeared in the grid with a filename ending in '.ram'. Right click and press 'Copy URL to clipboard'.

4. Open Net Transport (I use the freeware version 1.87 available at http://www.mediafire.com/?amnt9l9flm4) and click 'New'. The URL should already be in the box - if not right click in the box and click paste. Net Transport will then download the ram file. It will also download a much bigger ra file automatically which is the actual audio and can be played in RealPlayer.

5. (optional) You can convert this .ra file to mp3 by using a free program available at http://www.mediafire.com/?1oyzbb54jmd .

 
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Topic: Re: JAM downloading guide

Message 11 / 13
Dean BedfordAug 5, 2007
 

 
I think you can now put this on the group files list Kris, as there's
been long enough for people to comment...

On Sunday, July 22, 2007, at 09:24 AM, Kris wrote:

> Here's my JAM downloading guide Version 1.0.0:
>
> Feel free to contact me off-list if you have any questions, as I tried
> to be as straightforward as possible.
>
> How to download JAM in a few easy steps:
>
> JAM Downloading Guide v1.0.0
>
> Software you will need:
>
> Web browser - Netscape, IE, Firefox, Opera, etc...
> Text editor - Notepad, Wordpad, Office, OpenOffice, etc...
> Download manager - FlashGet is my personal choice of software.
>
> ----------
>
> Step 1:
>
> In your browser, visit:
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/comedy/justaminute.shtml
>
> This will bring up Radio 4's JAM webpage.
> Click on the "Listen Again" icon on the right hand side of the screen.
> This will bring up a pop-up screen with Auntie's own media player.
>
> You can pause the stream, as the playing of the file is not necessary.
>
> Firefox: With your mouse hovering over the 'Play/Pause' button, right
> click,
> then select "This Frame" then "View Frame Source".
>
> IE: Underneath the 'Play/Pause' button, right click and select "View
> Source"
>
> The source code will open up. This will be a lot of HTML code, but don't
> worry.
> Simply find ".ram" in the document.
>
> This will, for example give us:
>
> <a href="/radio/aod/shows/rpms/radio4/just.ram">
>
> This is the file that tells the software where the audio file is.
>
> Now, paste in the full URL to the file:
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/shows/rpms/radio4/just.ram
>
> A box will pop up, asking you to save the file.
>
> Do this.
>
> Step 2:
>
> Open up the save .ram file in your choice of text editor.
>
> You will see something like:
>
> rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio4/comedy/mon1830.ra?BBC-
> UID=d44619c53b848ec0dd2921eaf1c48fc27c870a9d20c0e121c2e263b39454b565&SSO2-UID=
>
> Highlight the rtsp: through to the .ra
>
> This is also the address you can input into your RealPlayer software to
> listen to the complete file.
>
> To download the actual file, go on to the next step:
>
> Step 3:
>
> Open up the download manager software.
> Copy the rtsp: address into the URL of the software.
> For FlashGet, you would select File -> New Download.
>
> FlashGet will then begin to get the file and save it to a folder on
> your HD.
>
> -------
>
> NOTES:
>
> In all honesty, that RTSP URL never changes.
> You will have to rename each week's file after you recieve it, so it
> won't over-write itself
> week after week.
>
> The file can be converted to MP3 with whatever software you may have at
> hand. I don't know
> of any freeware converters off of the top of my head, but I do use
> "Audacity", a freeware MP3
> editor once I get the file converted to remove the announcers before and
> after.
>
> Auntie Beeb puts the half-hours/hours out in blocks, so if a show runs
> over, you have
> to acquire both 'blocks' to get the whole program. That's why the URL
> never changes week after week.
> I use the same URL to acquire the ISIHAC episodes as well.
>
>

 
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Topic: Re: JAM downloading guide

Message 12 / 13
DonAug 8, 2007
 

 
--- In just-a-minute@..., "cymro" <cymrogwirion@...> wrote:

>
>
> > By the way for whoever uploaded ISIHAC, great! I didn't know that
> > S01E04 episode even existed!
> >
>
> No problem!!! I have all but around 15 episodes - and will be
> uploading them all!
>

Being a Newbie of only a week or so can you tell me where these are
uploaded to please so I can retrieve any missing episodes from my
collection.

Don

 
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Topic: Re: JAM downloading guide

Message 13 / 13
cymroAug 8, 2007
 

 
--- In just-a-minute@..., "Don" <don@...> wrote:

>
> --- In just-a-minute@..., "cymro" <cymrogwirion@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > By the way for whoever uploaded ISIHAC, great! I didn't know that
> > > S01E04 episode even existed!
> > >
> >
> > No problem!!! I have all but around 15 episodes - and will be
> > uploading them all!
> >
>
> Being a Newbie of only a week or so can you tell me where these are
> uploaded to please so I can retrieve any missing episodes from my
> collection.
>
> Don
>

If you visit the links section on the left hand side - then pick other
shows - you will find ISIHAC there - in folders for each series.
Remember - if you can offer any fills - please do so. There are a few
missing episodes that are known to exist!!