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Topic: [OT] 3 missing 'Beyond Our Ken' found

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Clitheroe KidOct 7, 2018

No, this episode was nowhere held, except by BBC Worldwide.

It was not on any list of known surviving BOK recordings, for there are no
existing off-air tapes of it, and of course it is never clear which episodes
from any given show have been issued to overseas stations by BBC
Transcription department. What you heard last week on the air was of course
a Transcription recording, from the commercial holdings built up by BBC
Enterprises.

It really is not possible to say that there is little hope of 'lost'
episodes surfacing. What do we here know of which recordings lie hidden in
the Transcription department? Since no list of the department's holdings for
BOK is presently available to us, we have no way of knowing what might yet
turn up.

There will certainly be two more lost episodes from series 1, since they
have announced that they will play 13 episodes from that series in this run,
of which last week's was number 11. There are accordingly two more 'lost'
episodes to come -- starting immediately, because all the remaining episodes
of series 1 are not held anywhere as off-air copies, so both the remaining
episodes in this batch of 13 will *also* be 'lost' episodes.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark sirnylon@... [just-a-minute]
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2018 3:56 AM
To: just-a-minute@...
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] [OT] A missing 'Beyond Our Ken' found

The episode I found was probably missing just 'to me'. For some reason I had
never found it in my past years of searching.

Indeed there is little hope that the 'officially' missing episodes will be
discovered.

On Sat, 6 Oct 2018 at 05:19, Clitheroe Kid clitheroekid@...
[just-a-minute] <just-a-minute@...> wrote:

Sadly only 13 shows survive from the original run of 21 episodes in Series
1, including both home and overseas (BBC Transcription Service) recordings.
So only 13 programmes in all will air from series 1 in the current run of
repeats.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark sirnylon@... [just-a-minute]
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2018 2:24 AM
To: just-a-minute@...
Subject: [just-a-minute] [OT] A missing 'Beyond Our Ken' found

A bit of good off-topic news for BOK fans.
Today iPlayer added BOK S01E16 from 1958-10-15 (My Resistance Is Low) - an
episode that I lacked.

If the BBC keeps this up for the next 10 weeks or so, a lot of other missing
eps may be added to the BOK Jar!

Regards,
Mark

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Posted by: Mark <sirnylon@...>

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Topic: Re: [OT] 3 missing 'Beyond Our Ken' found

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James R CurryOct 7, 2018

The transcription service became BBC Radio International and did at least have an on-line catalogue in 2013, when I last referenced it for something. It wasn't an exhaustive guide, but had things broken into packages, for example:

JUST A MINUTE (106-131)

A panel game in which competitors try to talk for "Just a Minute" without hesitation, repetition or deviation. Part 131 suitable for Christmas use.

(I copied and pasted that back in 2013).

Sadly, that on-line catalogue is no longer available.

Perhaps less sadly, the collection of transcription service records is now held by the British Library.

https://www.bl.uk/help/search-the-catalogues-for-radio-recordings

Quoth the raven:

"The British Library also holds an extensive collection of BBC Radio International (formerly BBC Transcription Service) recordings, 1940s-present. These programmes, derived from national programming or specially recorded for the purpose, were pressed on disc or CD for issue to BBC Transcription Service subscribers – typically other radio stations around the world. Issues from the 1950s onwards are documented in a set of approximately fifty lever-arch files which are available on request from the Humanities - floor 2 Reference Enquiries desk".

So, if someone has the time, proximity and patience, they could conceivably go for themselves and find out the answer. :)

On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 8:41 AM, Clitheroe Kid clitheroekid@... [just-a-minute] <just-a-minute@...> wrote:
No, this episode was nowhere held, except by BBC Worldwide.

It was not on any list of known surviving BOK recordings, for there are no

existing off-air tapes of it, and of course it is never clear which episodes

from any given show have been issued to overseas stations by BBC

Transcription department. What you heard last week on the air was of course

a Transcription recording, from the commercial holdings built up by BBC

Enterprises.

It really is not possible to say that there is little hope of 'lost'

episodes surfacing. What do we here know of which recordings lie hidden in

the Transcription department? Since no list of the department's holdings for

BOK is presently available to us, we have no way of knowing what might yet

turn up.

There will certainly be two more lost episodes from series 1, since they

have announced that they will play 13 episodes from that series in this run,

of which last week's was number 11. There are accordingly two more 'lost'

episodes to come -- starting immediately, because all the remaining episodes

of series 1 are not held anywhere as off-air copies, so both the remaining

episodes in this batch of 13 will *also* be 'lost' episodes.

-----Original Message-----

From: Mark sirnylon@... [just-a-minute]

Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2018 3:56 AM

To: just-a-minute@...

Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] [OT] A missing 'Beyond Our Ken' found

The episode I found was probably missing just 'to me'. For some reason I had

never found it in my past years of searching.

Indeed there is little hope that the 'officially' missing episodes will be

discovered.

On Sat, 6 Oct 2018 at 05:19, Clitheroe Kid clitheroekid@...

[just-a-minute] <just-a-minute@... > wrote:

Sadly only 13 shows survive from the original run of 21 episodes in Series

1, including both home and overseas (BBC Transcription Service) recordings.

So only 13 programmes in all will air from series 1 in the current run of

repeats.

-----Original Message-----

From: Mark sirnylon@... [just-a-minute]

Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2018 2:24 AM

To: just-a-minute@...

Subject: [just-a-minute] [OT] A missing 'Beyond Our Ken' found

A bit of good off-topic news for BOK fans.

Today iPlayer added BOK S01E16 from 1958-10-15 (My Resistance Is Low) - an

episode that I lacked.

If the BBC keeps this up for the next 10 weeks or so, a lot of other missing

eps may be added to the BOK Jar!

Regards,

Mark

--

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TUT Jar - https://mega.nz/#F!66QGFKwY! mGZwoNfGo2_AB8s6My3yfA

BOK Jar - https://mega.nz/#F!DawniQQY! wNIdGqH87vP_OaH1H2hldg

Horne Jar - https://mega.nz/#F!HLoGXI6R! T1L0NldZml4drAh05p8SPw

My Word Jar - https://mega.nz/#F!7rYSUaYI! 5Vu4NTtgIomxWD0cApYINg

My Music Jar - https://mega.nz/#F!22QGCYpS! Lr3vfw4iVqcwBIzmsOvRmg

Posted by: Mark <sirnylon@...>

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Clue Jar - https://bit.ly/2O1TdaQ

TUT Jar - https://bit.ly/2O4nBS7

BOK Jar - https://bit.ly/2IE0YOc

Horne Jar - https://bit.ly/2QuXcK6

My Word Jar - https://bit.ly/2xWWAFU

My Music Jar - https://bit.ly/2OwWFdg

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