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Re: Withdrawing Challenges

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Robert TorresAug 30, 2007
 
 
well, you may be right, but at the same time, it would also avoid instances of Nicholas saying that someone has challenged when they clearly haven't and avoids the notion of him confusing or pressuring the person who didn't challenge into making a wrong challenge. 
 
in fact, I seem to recall many instances when Nicholas has said that someone's light has come on, even though he didn't hear the buzzer, and Nicholas will say that someone challenged when they clearly haven't. 
 
One example being an episode from either the late 90's or the early 2000's when Linda Smith was speaking on a subject, but I believe Tony Hawks was on the panel as well, and Linda was interrupted by Nicholas who said that Tony challenged, and makes this big schpeel about that Tony must've just pressed the buzzer lightly, and then asks tony was his challenge is. and there's a silence followed by a laughter and Tony doesn't know what Nicholas is talking about, because he knows he didn't challenge, but then is so confused by what's happening he accidentally challenges incorrectly, because Nicholas pressured and practically bullied him into making a challenge that he didn't make in the first place.  and it goes against him, then when tony actually challenges sometime later and has the audience behind him, instead of giving him a bonus point, Nicholas AGAIN penalizes him for 'browbeating the audience'. 
 
although, in hindsight, I seem to think in small moments rather than in the overall scheme of things.  sorry I brought this topic up. 


Dean Bedford <dbedford@...> wrote:

On Thursday, August 30, 2007, at 04:42 AM, Robert L. Torres wrote:

> I mean if people are allowed to challenge themselves, they should be
> allowed to withdraw challenges. I mean, how is that any more
> offputting than allowing someone to challenge themselves? or any
> other blasted decision that Nicholas makes even in the face of
> actual correct challenges.

I'm not sure what you think would be the advantage of this, and you
haven't cited an advantage.

If someone could withdraw a challenge after Nicholas ruled, there would
be no penalty for a wrong challenge. Therefore if you have the subject,
the only way you are going to get a point is by speaking at the whistle.
Unless you think you can go the whole 60 seconds, there's no point then
to trying to get a "flow" going - you might as well stop, let someone
else take over and hope to get back in.

It also means someone can interrupt someone else without any penalty.
You might as well hit the buzzer every two seconds - there's no
disincentive as you can just withdraw your challenge.

With no incentive to keep going and no penalty for challenging as much
as you like, it would be a choppy game, full of challenges, no long
surreal Paul Merton stories. I can't see how this would be good. It
would ruin one of the main avenues of comedy in the game and just
present a string of arguments over challenges.

I know you don't agree with much of what Nicholas says. But here's
something he sometimes says that we can both agree with - the game's
been going now for 40 years and has had some success with these rules.


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