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Topic: Re: Nicholas' interruptions

Message 1 / 4
juliajellicoeJan 28, 2008
 

 
When I got a new tape deck in my old car, I remember being startled to
hear Nicholas clearly whispering "Challenge" in the middle of
someone's spiel. I think it was the Margolyes eppy.

--- In just-a-minute@..., "Robert L. Torres"
<bobbyshaddoe3004@...> wrote:

>
> Some people may not know this, but there have been quite a number of
> occasions when you can actually hear Nicholas trying to prompt
> another panelist into challenging, its subtle, almost a stage whisper
> in some shows, but its there nonetheless.
>
> I remember when I was listening to episode #410, when Sandi Toksvig
> was a guest. It was during Paul's subject of 'The Thing in the
> Cellar', he was going quite well, but at around the 3 minute and 32
> second mark of the episode, you can faintly hear Nicholas whispering
> to Sandi that Paul repeated 'investigate'.
>
> another instance is during I think the first or second appearance by
> Gerry Kelly, in which Clement was speaking on a subject, and Clement
> actually stops and says to Nicholas 'Can you hear me over there? Cuz
> I can hear you.'
>
> another time I think was during an episode that had Tony Hawks and
> Fred MacAuley. I can't remember who else was there, I think it was
> Derek Nimmo that was speaking on some subject, and Tony challenged
> simply to stop Nicholas' gesticulations.
>
> now these are quite subtle, but no less sneaky and underhanded, as
> opposed to one instance back in 1979 when the panel was Kenneth,
> Clement, Miriam Margolyes and Kenneth Robinson, and during the first
> subject which was 'Hotch Potch', Nicholas just up and decides to
> interrupt Clement while he's talking.
>
> this follows along similar lines to when Nicholas just up and decides
> to press someone else's buzzer while someone is talking or decides to
> steal the subject away from someone that's speaking and hasn't
> committed any of the sins of the game and gives it someone else for
> no reason other than Nicholas decides he wants to hear from that
> person.
>
> now, I'd just like to get a general understanding of how people feel
> about this sort of thing.
>

 
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Topic: Re: Nicholas' interruptions

Message 2 / 4
lapsedcatJan 29, 2008
 

 
In certain shows Nicholas can be exceedingly irritating, particularly
when assigning points to guests (was it Marcus Brigstocke or Jeremy
Hardy who once sent him up by saying he was "giving a point to the
poor little lady..."?)

Listening to the older shows, he seems guilty of blatant favouritism
in the Aimi MacDonald editions especially - I tend to dislike these
shows as she annoys the bejaysus out of me with her simpering and
giggling and playing the "dumb blonde" card. Seems to work on that
old roue.




--- In just-a-minute@..., "juliajellicoe"
<juliajellicoe@...> wrote:

>
> When I got a new tape deck in my old car, I remember being startled

to

> hear Nicholas clearly whispering "Challenge" in the middle of
> someone's spiel. I think it was the Margolyes eppy.
>
> --- In just-a-minute@..., "Robert L. Torres"
> <bobbyshaddoe3004@> wrote:
> >
> > Some people may not know this, but there have been quite a number

of

> > occasions when you can actually hear Nicholas trying to prompt
> > another panelist into challenging, its subtle, almost a stage

whisper

> > in some shows, but its there nonetheless.
> >
> > I remember when I was listening to episode #410, when Sandi

Toksvig

> > was a guest. It was during Paul's subject of 'The Thing in the
> > Cellar', he was going quite well, but at around the 3 minute and

32

> > second mark of the episode, you can faintly hear Nicholas

whispering

> > to Sandi that Paul repeated 'investigate'.
> >
> > another instance is during I think the first or second appearance

by

> > Gerry Kelly, in which Clement was speaking on a subject, and

Clement

> > actually stops and says to Nicholas 'Can you hear me over there?

Cuz

> > I can hear you.'
> >
> > another time I think was during an episode that had Tony Hawks

and

> > Fred MacAuley. I can't remember who else was there, I think it

was

> > Derek Nimmo that was speaking on some subject, and Tony

challenged

> > simply to stop Nicholas' gesticulations.
> >
> > now these are quite subtle, but no less sneaky and underhanded,

as

> > opposed to one instance back in 1979 when the panel was Kenneth,
> > Clement, Miriam Margolyes and Kenneth Robinson, and during the

first

> > subject which was 'Hotch Potch', Nicholas just up and decides to
> > interrupt Clement while he's talking.
> >
> > this follows along similar lines to when Nicholas just up and

decides

> > to press someone else's buzzer while someone is talking or

decides to

> > steal the subject away from someone that's speaking and hasn't
> > committed any of the sins of the game and gives it someone else

for

> > no reason other than Nicholas decides he wants to hear from that
> > person.
> >
> > now, I'd just like to get a general understanding of how people

feel

> > about this sort of thing.
> >
>

 
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Topic: Re: Nicholas' interruptions

Message 3 / 4
lindaJan 29, 2008
 

 
--- In just-a-minute@..., "lapsedcat" <lapsedcat@...> wrote:

>
> In certain shows Nicholas can be exceedingly irritating, particularly
> when assigning points to guests (was it Marcus Brigstocke or Jeremy
> Hardy who once sent him up by saying he was "giving a point to the
> poor little lady..."?)
>
> Listening to the older shows, he seems guilty of blatant favouritism
> in the Aimi MacDonald editions especially - I tend to dislike these
> shows as she annoys the bejaysus out of me with her simpering and
> giggling and playing the "dumb blonde" card. Seems to work on that
> old roue.

the favroutism paul merton gets does annoy me a little bit sometimes .
i am listemimg to a show he makes a challenge thats wrong but he get
the point and the round . also 9 out of 10 times he gets the round form
the challges he makes right or worng . i know paul merton is good at
the game but thats whats puts me off him .
anyone listen to the show with josie laurence in a couple of weeks
ago ? did anyone else think paul got a bit annoyed as josie got more
attention then he did !
i don't mind beginers getting a little help espedcially if paul is on
the show as they won't stand a chance otherwise !
cheers
Linda

 
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Topic: Re: Nicholas' interruptions

Message 4 / 4
Robert L. TorresJan 30, 2008
 

 
Although to be fair, the moments when Nicholas is being chivalrous
to Aimi usually elicites the best comments from the other panelists,
this is especially true of Kenneth and Peter, who not only send him
up for his unabashed flirtations with Aimi, but outright accuse him
of being in cahoots with her. In one program I think Kenneth made
the comment 'how did she get on the show in the first place',
essentially making a very sly hint that the only reason Aimi was on
the show was because she was either dating the producer or sleeping
with him.

the interruptions that Nick makes often get up my nose, especially
when he interrupts someone in full flow and says that they've
challenged when they clearly haven't. But this tends to have a
double effect, in that its annoying that Nick interrupted someone in
full flow to take the subject from that person and give it someone
else who didn't even challenge, but sometimes the resulting insults
aimed at Nicholas by the other panelists are very often hilarious.

A prime example being an episode that had Paul, Derek, Peter, and
the first appearance by Steve Frost. I think I mentioned it once
before, during a post I made regarding Peter Jones. Derek was
talking on 'Our Feathered Friends', was doing very well, and
Nicholas out of nowhere says 'Peter you challenged'. and there's a
huge pause that soon becomes filled with laughter as Derek and Paul
turn on Nicholas and question just what the hell he thinks he's
doing.

That wouldn't be the first or even the last time Nick would do
something like that, to the extent where he'll say that someone
challenged before they even press their buzzer.

There was one time I think it was Julian Clary's first appearance on
the show, when there is a split second to which Nick opens his mouth
and says that Julian challenged and then a buzz follows just after
he starts to speak, which must mean either he grabbed Julian's
buzzer and pressed it or something, I don't know.

in fact I think Nick has been known to push someone else's buzzer
quite frequently on the television series. another prime example was
when the panel consisted of Derek Nimmo, Nick Revell, Tony Slattery
and John Fortune, and I think it was during the last round. the
subject was 'The Angel', Derek was going very well on it, and then
suddenly 'BUZZ', Derek turns to look at Nicholas and says 'What on
earth did you touch his hand for?!', completely outraged that
Nicholas put his hand on John Fortune's in order to press John
Fortune's buzzer.

Anyone else notice these things or can anyone else give any prime
examples aside from those I"ve listed?