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Topic: impressive debuts....

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frankntomFeb 10, 2008
 

 
Jack Dee and his impressive debut got me thinking about a few of the
other first shows i've enjoyed: arthur smith and josie lawrence being
two that popped into my brain immediately. ( It was very obvious how
much fun Arthur Smith was having!) And then there is
Tim Brooke-Taylor, who won the show the first time he played. I can't
think of another player who's done that....are there more?

And why is it that he's only appeared two other times, the most recent
of which was when Kenneth Williams was still a regular? Is it
something to do with his being on ISIHAC? (which had to have been
running already by his last JAM)

I listened to that show again recently (it's 265 in the "very special"
pack from the ABC and sounds great!), and was surprised to hear him
buzz himself. I thought that was a newer tactic, but this program was
from 1979. Has that trick been going on since the series began?

joan

 
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Topic: Re: impressive debuts....

Message 2 / 6
Dean BedfordFeb 11, 2008
 

 
On Monday, February 11, 2008, at 08:12 PM, frankntom wrote:

> Jack Dee and his impressive debut got me thinking about a few of the
> other first shows i've enjoyed: arthur smith and josie lawrence being
> two that popped into my brain immediately. ( It was very obvious how
> much fun Arthur Smith was having!) And then there is
> Tim Brooke-Taylor, who won the show the first time he played. I can't
> think of another player who's done that....are there more?

Here's a list of people who won first time out - Derek Nimmo (first
show!), Tim Rice (equal first with three others), Linda Smith (equal
first with two others), Gyles Brandreth, Dale Winton, Richard Morton,
Neil Mullarkey (equal first with one other), Libby Purves, Victoria Wood
(equal first with one other), Jo Brand, Tim Brooke-Taylor, Mariella
Frostrup (equal first with one other), Brian Johnston, Jan Ravens, John
Sergeant, Lucy Bartlett, Jeremy Beadle (equal first with one other), Ann
Bryson (equal first with one other, only appearance), Ted Robbins (equal
first with two others, only appearance)

The most recent is John Sergeant on a TV edition in 1999, on radio the
most recent is Linda Smith, also in 1999.

>
> And why is it that he's only appeared two other times, the most recent
> of which was when Kenneth Williams was still a regular? Is it
> something to do with his being on ISIHAC? (which had to have been
> running already by his last JAM)

It's always hard to be definitive about this sort of question. I thought
Tim was very good at the game and very funny so it probably has more to
do with a decision on his part than anything else. There are so many of
these people who appear on other shows that I doubt his appearances on
ISIHAC would be a reason for the producer not hiring him, though it may
be that he himself decided to devote himself to Clue. A lot of people
don't enjoy participating in JAM, maybe Tim was/is one of these.

 
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Topic: Re: impressive debuts....

Message 3 / 6
lindaFeb 11, 2008
 

 
And then there is

> Tim Brooke-Taylor, who won the show the first time he played. I can't
> think of another player who's done that....are there more?
>
> And why is it that he's only appeared two other times, the most recent
> of which was when Kenneth Williams was still a regular? Is it
> something to do with his being on ISIHAC? (which had to have been
> running already by his last JAM)
>
> I listened to that show again recently (it's 265 in the "very special"
> pack from the ABC and sounds great!), and was surprised to hear him
> buzz himself. I thought that was a newer tactic, but this program was
> from 1979. Has that trick been going on since the series began?

i agree with you about tim brooke-taylor , i read his transcrpits a
couple of days ago . if you can go toe to toe with kenneth williams and
do well then you must be pretty good !
i don;t know if his being a regualr on isihac would prevent him from
going on j.a.m. jeremy hardy is a regular on the news quiz but it has
not stoped him appearing on isihac or being the 4th member of the team
for the isihac live tour both this year and last .
just to asnwer your question joan cluye has been going since 1972 so
when he appeared on j.a.m clue was well established .
cheers
Linda

 
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Robert TorresFeb 11, 2008
 

 
The notion of a panelist buzzing themselves isn't exactly new, but it is a rarity that only occurs every so often, sometimes to varying degrees of humor and success and also varying degrees of consistency when it comes to rulings with the awarding of points. 

frankntom <frankntom@...> wrote:

Jack Dee and his impressive debut got me thinking about a few of the
other first shows i've enjoyed: arthur smith and josie lawrence being
two that popped into my brain immediately. ( It was very obvious how
much fun Arthur Smith was having!) And then there is
Tim Brooke-Taylor, who won the show the first time he played. I can't
think of another player who's done that....are there more?

And why is it that he's only appeared two other times, the most recent
of which was when Kenneth Williams was still a regular? Is it
something to do with his being on ISIHAC? (which had to have been
running already by his last JAM)

I listened to that show again recently (it's 265 in the "very special"
pack from the ABC and sounds great!), and was surprised to hear him
buzz himself. I thought that was a newer tactic, but this program was
from 1979. Has that trick been going on since the series began?

joan

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lapsedcatFeb 11, 2008
 

 
Indeed, although Nicholas, the consumate pro, always pretends that it
has never happened before. I guess it's his way of trying to keep the
audience enthused...

--- In just-a-minute@..., Robert Torres
<bobbyshaddoe3004@...> wrote:

>
> The notion of a panelist buzzing themselves isn't exactly new, but

it is a rarity that only occurs every so often, sometimes to varying
degrees of humor and success and also varying degrees of consistency
when it comes to rulings with the awarding of points.

>
> frankntom <frankntom@...> wrote: Jack Dee and his

impressive debut got me thinking about a few of the

> other first shows i've enjoyed: arthur smith and josie lawrence

being

> two that popped into my brain immediately. ( It was very obvious how
> much fun Arthur Smith was having!) And then there is
> Tim Brooke-Taylor, who won the show the first time he played. I

can't

> think of another player who's done that....are there more?
>
> And why is it that he's only appeared two other times, the most

recent

> of which was when Kenneth Williams was still a regular? Is it
> something to do with his being on ISIHAC? (which had to have been
> running already by his last JAM)
>
> I listened to that show again recently (it's 265 in the "very

special"

> pack from the ABC and sounds great!), and was surprised to hear him
> buzz himself. I thought that was a newer tactic, but this program

was

> from 1979. Has that trick been going on since the series began?
>
> joan
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
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Try it now.

>

 
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frankntomFeb 11, 2008
 

 
--- In just-a-minute@..., Dean Bedford <dbedford@...> wrote:

>
>

> Here's a list of people who won first time out - Derek Nimmo (first
> show!), Tim Rice (equal first with three others), Linda Smith (equal
> first with two others), Gyles Brandreth, Dale Winton, Richard Morton,
> Neil Mullarkey (equal first with one other), Libby Purves, Victoria

Wood

> (equal first with one other), Jo Brand, Tim Brooke-Taylor, Mariella
> Frostrup (equal first with one other), Brian Johnston, Jan Ravens, John
> Sergeant, Lucy Bartlett, Jeremy Beadle (equal first with one other),

Ann

> Bryson (equal first with one other, only appearance), Ted Robbins

(equal

> first with two others, only appearance)
>
> The most recent is John Sergeant on a TV edition in 1999, on radio the
> most recent is Linda Smith, also in 1999.
> >

Ah, thanks much! so it appears to have been a bit more common in the
first three decades of the program, though not very common. And
certainly not common to have a first timer as sole winner. In any
case, I think we're due for another.

I'm not shocked to see Gyles in the list. I wonder if he is the
youngest among them. (not youngest now, youngest at the time....)

And I always forget about John Sergeant and JAM. I'll have to remember
for the next time we float prospectives for the next chairman.

The percentage of women is quite good, considering the ratio on the
panels.