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Topic: okay - tell

Message 1 / 18
Dean BedfordFeb 2, 2007
 
 
Well some of you have been busy downloading these past two weeks and I'm
curious.

Do you guys feel you must listen to all your new shows right away?
Anyone pigging out on new JAM - listening to a dozen a day or something?
Or rationing it out so you have one new show a day?

Anyone come across a special moment that made it all worthwhile? A guest
you loved? A classic line or moment? A show you'd heard about but never
heard - and it was just as good as you hoped?

Do tell!
 
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Topic: Re: okay - tell

Message 2 / 18
BlackadderFeb 3, 2007
 
 
I generally try to listen to one new episode a day. So far the episode I
like best of the ones that I got recently was the one where Kenneth
throws a tantrum over losing the subject of stopping hickupps.

On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 20:46:31 +1300, "Dean Bedford" <dbedford@...>
said:
> Well some of you have been busy downloading these past two weeks and I'm
> curious.
>
> Do you guys feel you must listen to all your new shows right away?
> Anyone pigging out on new JAM - listening to a dozen a day or something?
> Or rationing it out so you have one new show a day?
>
> Anyone come across a special moment that made it all worthwhile? A guest
> you loved? A classic line or moment? A show you'd heard about but never
> heard - and it was just as good as you hoped?
>
> Do tell!
--
Blackadder
blackadder1@...

--
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wherever you are
 
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Topic: Re: okay - tell

Message 3 / 18
Sarah FalkFeb 3, 2007
 
 
I'm afraid it's been pigging out, as in "spending more time listening to
JAM than doing schoolwork," which isn't so good, you know. I'm working
on it!

I've been keeping a not-so-complete list of some of the exchanges I've
particularly liked, which includes Nicholas's pronounciation of
"eccentricity" (and Clement: "I wish I had "eccentricity"!"); Julian
Clary remarking, regarding Derek Nimmo, "We're not getting on at all
well!"; oh, and Kenneth Williams's and Tim Rice's jibe about an
"all-male panel" . . .

Bliss!

--- In just-a-minute@..., Dean Bedford <dbedford@...> wrote:
>
> Well some of you have been busy downloading these past two weeks and
I'm
> curious.
>
> Do you guys feel you must listen to all your new shows right away?
> Anyone pigging out on new JAM - listening to a dozen a day or
something?
> Or rationing it out so you have one new show a day?
>
> Anyone come across a special moment that made it all worthwhile? A
guest
> you loved? A classic line or moment? A show you'd heard about but
never
> heard - and it was just as good as you hoped?
>
> Do tell!
>

 
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Topic: Re: okay - tell

Message 4 / 18
Dean BedfordFeb 3, 2007
 
 
On Sunday, February 4, 2007, at 01:26 AM, Blackadder wrote:

> I generally try to listen to one new episode a day. So far the episode I
> like best of the ones that I got recently was the one where Kenneth
> throws a tantrum over losing the subject of stopping hickupps.

that is a classic JAM moment - and the whole ep is very funny

NICHOLAS PARSONS: And Kenneth you also begin the next round. The subject
is stopping hiccups. Can you tell us something about that in this game
starting now.

KENNETH WILLIAMS: You must alter the rhythms that have been established
in the sarspiratory diaphragm. So consequently you must breathe in a
different way. One of the best tips I can give you is to inhale deeply
and then recite a long piece. Such as
(very very fast to the point of being unintelligible) The old order
changes yielding place to the new,
and God fulfils Himself in many ways,
lest one good custom corrupt the world.
Our little systems have their day,
they have their day then cease to be.
They are but broken lights of Thee, and thou...

BUZZ

NP: Peter Jones has challenged.

PETER JONES: You'd be better off with the hiccups!

NP: So we give Peter Jones a bonus point for his delightful remark and
also another point for a correct challenge because he'd deviated from
hiccups on to a recitation of er a poem which we couldn't understand!
Peter you have 23 seconds on stopping hiccups starting now.

BUZZ

NP: Yes Kenneth you challenged.

KW: What is, how, how did the subject get taken away from me? What, what
is the grounds?

NP: Because you deviated from hiccups, you were just reciting something.

KW: On the contrary, I was describing a remedy and he...

NP: I know but your remedy went...

KW: He didn't challenge. He said "you'd be better off with the hiccups".
He didn't express a challenge. He was just making a funny remark and the
audience, for some peculiar reason...

NP: Well I thought, I thought his...

KW: ... found this very comic! I don't find it funny! I've come all the
way from Great Portland Street and I'm not here to be made fun of! Do
you think I'm some object of ridicule? Do you think that's what I am?

AUDIENCE SHOUTS OF "YES"

PJ: Yes! Yes!

DEREK NIMMO: Can we put that to the audience?
 
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Topic: Re: okay - tell

Message 5 / 18
Dean BedfordFeb 3, 2007
 
 
On Sunday, February 4, 2007, at 07:51 AM, Sarah Falk wrote:

> I'm afraid it's been pigging out, as in "spending more time listening to
> JAM than doing schoolwork," which isn't so good, you know. I'm working
> on it!
>
> I've been keeping a not-so-complete list of some of the exchanges I've
> particularly liked, which includes Nicholas's pronounciation of
> "eccentricity" (and Clement: "I wish I had "eccentricity"!"); Julian
> Clary remarking, regarding Derek Nimmo, "We're not getting on at all
> well!"; oh, and Kenneth Williams's and Tim Rice's jibe about an
> "all-male panel" . . .
>
> Bliss!

This also would have to go on a list ofg the all-time classic moments

KENNETH WILLIAMS: And one of the most remarkable things is that as
lately as 1952 that he actually appeared at the Festival Hall. But
whether it was at the Conservertwois, or whether it was the
(unintelligible), you name it...

BUZZ

NICHOLAS PARSONS: Tim Rice has challenged.

TIM RICE: Two whethers.

NP: Two whethers?

TR: Whether it was so-and-so, whether it was...

KW: What does it matter, you great fool! I’ve come all the way from
Great Portland Street! I’m not going to be made a fool of by that great
jerk! He was also very rude to me before this show began! Very rude to
me before this show began!

NP: Was he?

KW: Yes!

NP: What did he say?

KW: I said “it’s an all male panel on tonight”, and he looked at me and
said “well, almost!”
 
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Topic: Re: okay - tell

Message 6 / 18
Sarah FalkFeb 3, 2007
 
 
Haha! It's so fantastic!

I always hear it as, "And he looked at me and said, 'We're not all male . . .'"

http://media.putfile.com/WilliamsRice


--- In just-a-minute@..., Dean Bedford <dbedford@...> wrote:
>
> This also would have to go on a list ofg the all-time classic moments
>
> KENNETH WILLIAMS: And one of the most remarkable things is that as
> lately as 1952 that he actually appeared at the Festival Hall. But
> whether it was at the Conservertwois, or whether it was the
> (unintelligible), you name it...
>
> BUZZ
>
> NICHOLAS PARSONS: Tim Rice has challenged.
>
> TIM RICE: Two whethers.
>
> NP: Two whethers?
>
> TR: Whether it was so-and-so, whether it was...
>
> KW: What does it matter, you great fool! I've come all the way from
> Great Portland Street! I'm not going to be made a fool of by that great
> jerk! He was also very rude to me before this show began! Very rude to
> me before this show began!
>
> NP: Was he?
>
> KW: Yes!
>
> NP: What did he say?
>
> KW: I said "it's an all male panel on tonight", and he looked at me and
> said "well, almost!"
>


 
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Topic: Re: okay - tell

Message 7 / 18
bobbyshaddoe3004Feb 3, 2007
 
 
I remember this one in particular, Peter Jones always had the great
one-liner, and I loved Kenneth's tantrums, its something that no one
does nowadays, no one really haggles over things, well they kinda do,
but for the most part they're too apologetic and too willing to
kowtow to Nicholas even though he's clearly wrong. but now, being
wrong or right is hardly a factor in this game considering that in
spite of Nicholas' claims, logic plays no role in this show.

> On Sunday, February 4, 2007, at 01:26 AM, Blackadder wrote:
>
> > I generally try to listen to one new episode a day. So far the
episode I
> > like best of the ones that I got recently was the one where
Kenneth
> > throws a tantrum over losing the subject of stopping hickupps.
>
> that is a classic JAM moment - and the whole ep is very funny
>
> NICHOLAS PARSONS: And Kenneth you also begin the next round. The
subject
> is stopping hiccups. Can you tell us something about that in this
game
> starting now.
>
> KENNETH WILLIAMS: You must alter the rhythms that have been
established
> in the sarspiratory diaphragm. So consequently you must breathe in
a
> different way. One of the best tips I can give you is to inhale
deeply
> and then recite a long piece. Such as
> (very very fast to the point of being unintelligible) The old order
> changes yielding place to the new,
> and God fulfils Himself in many ways,
> lest one good custom corrupt the world.
> Our little systems have their day,
> they have their day then cease to be.
> They are but broken lights of Thee, and thou...
>
> BUZZ
>
> NP: Peter Jones has challenged.
>
> PETER JONES: You'd be better off with the hiccups!
>
> NP: So we give Peter Jones a bonus point for his delightful remark
and
> also another point for a correct challenge because he'd deviated
from
> hiccups on to a recitation of er a poem which we couldn't
understand!
> Peter you have 23 seconds on stopping hiccups starting now.
>
> BUZZ
>
> NP: Yes Kenneth you challenged.
>
> KW: What is, how, how did the subject get taken away from me? What,
what
> is the grounds?
>
> NP: Because you deviated from hiccups, you were just reciting
something.
>
> KW: On the contrary, I was describing a remedy and he...
>
> NP: I know but your remedy went...
>
> KW: He didn't challenge. He said "you'd be better off with the
hiccups".
> He didn't express a challenge. He was just making a funny remark
and the
> audience, for some peculiar reason...
>
> NP: Well I thought, I thought his...
>
> KW: ... found this very comic! I don't find it funny! I've come all
the
> way from Great Portland Street and I'm not here to be made fun of!
Do
> you think I'm some object of ridicule? Do you think that's what I
am?
>
> AUDIENCE SHOUTS OF "YES"
>
> PJ: Yes! Yes!
>
> DEREK NIMMO: Can we put that to the audience?
>

 
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Topic: Re: okay - tell

Message 8 / 18
bobbyshaddoe3004Feb 3, 2007
 
 
I remember this one in particular, Peter Jones always had the great
one-liner, and I loved Kenneth's tantrums, its something that no one
does nowadays, no one really haggles over things, well they kinda do,
but for the most part they're too apologetic and too willing to
kowtow to Nicholas even though he's clearly wrong. but now, being
wrong or right is hardly a factor in this game considering that in
spite of Nicholas' claims, logic plays no role in this show.

> On Sunday, February 4, 2007, at 01:26 AM, Blackadder wrote:
>
> > I generally try to listen to one new episode a day. So far the
episode I
> > like best of the ones that I got recently was the one where
Kenneth
> > throws a tantrum over losing the subject of stopping hickupps.
>
> that is a classic JAM moment - and the whole ep is very funny
>
> NICHOLAS PARSONS: And Kenneth you also begin the next round. The
subject
> is stopping hiccups. Can you tell us something about that in this
game
> starting now.
>
> KENNETH WILLIAMS: You must alter the rhythms that have been
established
> in the sarspiratory diaphragm. So consequently you must breathe in
a
> different way. One of the best tips I can give you is to inhale
deeply
> and then recite a long piece. Such as
> (very very fast to the point of being unintelligible) The old order
> changes yielding place to the new,
> and God fulfils Himself in many ways,
> lest one good custom corrupt the world.
> Our little systems have their day,
> they have their day then cease to be.
> They are but broken lights of Thee, and thou...
>
> BUZZ
>
> NP: Peter Jones has challenged.
>
> PETER JONES: You'd be better off with the hiccups!
>
> NP: So we give Peter Jones a bonus point for his delightful remark
and
> also another point for a correct challenge because he'd deviated
from
> hiccups on to a recitation of er a poem which we couldn't
understand!
> Peter you have 23 seconds on stopping hiccups starting now.
>
> BUZZ
>
> NP: Yes Kenneth you challenged.
>
> KW: What is, how, how did the subject get taken away from me? What,
what
> is the grounds?
>
> NP: Because you deviated from hiccups, you were just reciting
something.
>
> KW: On the contrary, I was describing a remedy and he...
>
> NP: I know but your remedy went...
>
> KW: He didn't challenge. He said "you'd be better off with the
hiccups".
> He didn't express a challenge. He was just making a funny remark
and the
> audience, for some peculiar reason...
>
> NP: Well I thought, I thought his...
>
> KW: ... found this very comic! I don't find it funny! I've come all
the
> way from Great Portland Street and I'm not here to be made fun of!
Do
> you think I'm some object of ridicule? Do you think that's what I
am?
>
> AUDIENCE SHOUTS OF "YES"
>
> PJ: Yes! Yes!
>
> DEREK NIMMO: Can we put that to the audience?
>

 
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Topic: Re: okay - tell

Message 9 / 18
Sarah FalkFeb 3, 2007
 
 
The panellists don't concede to Nicholas because they're too
apologetic or frightened; they do it because there's really nothing to
fight about. Nicholas does a fantastic job of keeping things even in
the game. The rules are set, but they can be bent easily, and just
because he interprets them in one way for one particular circumstance
doesn't mean that he has to do the same thing all the time. That's
part of the game. Logic plays a great role in it, but so does banter
and mishap. JAM might as well be Whose Line is it Anyway for how
little they care about the points, because really, that's not what's
important.

--- In just-a-minute@..., "bobbyshaddoe3004"
<bobbyshaddoe3004@...> wrote:
>
> I remember this one in particular, Peter Jones always had the great
> one-liner, and I loved Kenneth's tantrums, its something that no one
> does nowadays, no one really haggles over things, well they kinda do,
> but for the most part they're too apologetic and too willing to
> kowtow to Nicholas even though he's clearly wrong. but now, being
> wrong or right is hardly a factor in this game considering that in
> spite of Nicholas' claims, logic plays no role in this show.
>

 
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Topic: Re: okay - tell

Message 10 / 18
Dean BedfordFeb 3, 2007
 
 
On Sunday, February 4, 2007, at 04:28 PM, bobbyshaddoe3004 wrote:

> I remember this one in particular, Peter Jones always had the great
> one-liner, and I loved Kenneth's tantrums, its something that no one
> does nowadays, no one really haggles over things, well they kinda do,
> but for the most part they're too apologetic and too willing to
> kowtow to Nicholas even though he's clearly wrong. but now, being
> wrong or right is hardly a factor in this game considering that in
> spite of Nicholas' claims, logic plays no role in this show.

Bobby - Two posts on different threads in 10 minutes from registering,
and both ended up as attacks on Nicholas - as do all of your posts at
the blog.

We're having a nice friendly time here, talking about why we like JAM. I
know you love JAM too, so please make an effort to stop going on about
how bad Nicholas is.
 
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Topic: Re: okay - tell

Message 11 / 18
humiliated_grapes2Feb 3, 2007
 
 
When I download a whole lot of eps, I tend to listen to them all in a
row, and then wish I hadn't coz i don't have any new eps to listen to
later :( I should learn to spread them out more. It's just so
addictive though!
 
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Topic: Re: okay - tell

Message 12 / 18
Dean BedfordFeb 3, 2007
 
 
On Sunday, February 4, 2007, at 06:21 PM, humiliated_grapes2 wrote:

> When I download a whole lot of eps, I tend to listen to them all in a
> row, and then wish I hadn't coz i don't have any new eps to listen to
> later :( I should learn to spread them out more. It's just so
> addictive though!

hehe that's me too! I think "oh just one more..." How many do you listen
to in a row. I think my record for most new JAM shows in a row is 12....

Anyone would think I didn't have a life... :-(
 
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Topic: Re: okay - tell

Message 13 / 18
Robert TorresFeb 4, 2007
 
 
it's easier on 'Whose Line' to not give a crap about points when you consider that no one really haggles for their points on 'Whose Line', although insults to the guy behind the desk are very commonplace which is always a joy.  I know that the points don't matter on JAM, but it's Nicholas that breaks through it all whenever he makes these inane comments on how someone can actually speak for 'x' amount of seconds and get no points, while someone can just challenge another when there is less time and get all the points, not to mention every time he says that so and so is still in fourth place in that patronizingly condescending tone of his, pretty much saying that all that a person does really amounts to nothing on this program, which of course is a load of rubbish. 
 
the bending of the rules is really what I'm trying to talk about, because the way Nicholas bends rulings goes AGAINST other people who've hardly had a chance to say anything and favors someone else who is a regular or just so happens to be called Kenneth Williams, but then the trend reversed, one of the regulars would be speaking just fine and then out of the blue Nicholas would just steal the subject away and give it to someone that didn't even challenge, sure its funny and does elicit some great moments, but I feel that those moments should really be generated BY THE PANELISTS and not by Nicholas, I mean he's alright, but I just wish he'd stop making all these inane comments that make it seem like he's trying to ride on the coattails of giants and steal the thunder away from the people who really matter, the panelists. 
 
I mean, Nicholas isn't funny, he's not witty, or even all that clever.  The man can barely find a coherent sentence with two hands and a flashlight, and he can be really nasty on this program, I mean there have been several occasions when he has actually SCREAMED at the panelists and the audience to SHUT UP, and have been so utterly patronizing to the audience and insulting their intelligence as well any time he has to remind them what the rules are or that they are playing a game or calling them fickle or saying it has nothing to do with them, it has everything to do with them because if it wasn't for the audience, the show wouldn't survive, THEY are the ones that come to listen to all the rubbish they spew week after week, and this is coming from someone that used to always say 'The audience are the final arbiters' and now he's telling them to shut up, yeah that's really professional, alienating the audience like that, yeah that's clever.
 
what i hate is how pompous and arrogant Nicholas is, especially when he goes completely out of his way to pretty much say that HE is the one responsible for all the comedy on the show, and that's just wrong.  like when he says that he sets himself up for it, or that he gives good cues or feed lines, the man couldn't feed lines to a starving teleprompter and wouldn't know comedy if it gave him a lapdance.  I listen to JAM for the panelists, NOT the chairman. 

Sarah Falk <minerva.moon@...> wrote:
The panellists don't concede to Nicholas because they're too
apologetic or frightened; they do it because there's really nothing to
fight about. Nicholas does a fantastic job of keeping things even in
the game. The rules are set, but they can be bent easily, and just
because he interprets them in one way for one particular circumstance
doesn't mean that he has to do the same thing all the time. That's
part of the game. Logic plays a great role in it, but so does banter
and mishap. JAM might as well be Whose Line is it Anyway for how
little they care about the points, because really, that's not what's
important.

--- In just-a-minute@ yahoogroups. com, "bobbyshaddoe3004"
<bobbyshaddoe3004@ ...> wrote:
>
> I remember this one in particular, Peter Jones always had the great
> one-liner, and I loved Kenneth's tantrums, its something that no one
> does nowadays, no one really haggles over things, well they kinda do,
> but for the most part they're too apologetic and too willing to
> kowtow to Nicholas even though he's clearly wrong. but now, being
> wrong or right is hardly a factor in this game considering that in
> spite of Nicholas' claims, logic plays no role in this show.
>



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Topic: Re: okay - tell

Message 14 / 18
Robert TorresFeb 4, 2007
 
 
sorry.  I'm just trying to generate some good discussions, and just put out my opinions, see if other people reciprocate. 
 

 


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Topic: Re: okay - tell

Message 15 / 18
Robert TorresFeb 4, 2007
 
 
when I got into the show I searched far and wide, downloading as many as I could, and then I'd go through them, trying to separate the really good ones to the ones that I felt weren't as good, and even now I'm rediscovering so much with episodes that seemed to have been missing for so long, and finding brand new gems of comedic gold. 
 
I'm still looking for the episode that has Andree Melly as the chairman, but it's really hard to find. 

Dean Bedford <dbedford@...> wrote:

On Sunday, February 4, 2007, at 06:21 PM, humiliated_grapes2 wrote:

> When I download a whole lot of eps, I tend to listen to them all in a
> row, and then wish I hadn't coz i don't have any new eps to listen to
> later :( I should learn to spread them out more. It's just so
> addictive though!

hehe that's me too! I think "oh just one more..." How many do you listen
to in a row. I think my record for most new JAM shows in a row is 12....

Anyone would think I didn't have a life... :-(


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Topic: Re: okay - tell

Message 16 / 18
humiliated_grapes2Feb 4, 2007
 
 
--- In just-a-minute@..., Dean Bedford <dbedford@...>
wrote:
> hehe that's me too! I think "oh just one more..." How many do you
listen
> to in a row. I think my record for most new JAM shows in a row is
12....
>
> Anyone would think I didn't have a life... :-(

Yeah, I worked out the other day that I'd spent 6 hrs listening to
JAM, so that's 12 episodes. That must be my record too. I don't just
listen to new ones though, I often listen to the same ones I've heard
about 50 times, and can now sort of mouth along to some of them. How
sad is that?
 
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Topic: Re: okay - tell

Message 17 / 18
Dean BedfordFeb 5, 2007
 
 
On Monday, February 5, 2007, at 07:55 PM, humiliated_grapes2 wrote:

> --- In just-a-minute@..., Dean Bedford <dbedford@...>
> wrote:
> > hehe that's me too! I think "oh just one more..." How many do you
> listen
> > to in a row. I think my record for most new JAM shows in a row is
> 12....
> >
> > Anyone would think I didn't have a life... :-(
>
> Yeah, I worked out the other day that I'd spent 6 hrs listening to
> JAM, so that's 12 episodes. That must be my record too. I don't just
> listen to new ones though, I often listen to the same ones I've heard
> about 50 times, and can now sort of mouth along to some of them. How
> sad is that?
>

give us an example of one you could recite aloud parts of... :-)
 
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Topic: Re: okay - tell

Message 18 / 18
Sarah FalkFeb 5, 2007
 
 
I've gotten that way with QI: I can recite select sequences
word-for-word without the visual prompt, and when they're playing, I
can do pretty much all the episodes. Note that there are only 48 QIs,
and a million JAMs, so I still have a long way to go in that regard!

(Side-note: I *can* do Star Trek's "The Trouble With Tribbles"
verbatim. What does that count for? :P)

--- In just-a-minute@..., Dean Bedford <dbedford@...> wrote:
>
>
> On Monday, February 5, 2007, at 07:55 PM, humiliated_grapes2 wrote:
>
> > --- In just-a-minute@..., Dean Bedford <dbedford@>
> > wrote:
> > > hehe that's me too! I think "oh just one more..." How many do you
> > listen
> > > to in a row. I think my record for most new JAM shows in a row is
> > 12....
> > >
> > > Anyone would think I didn't have a life... :-(
> >
> > Yeah, I worked out the other day that I'd spent 6 hrs listening to
> > JAM, so that's 12 episodes. That must be my record too. I don't just
> > listen to new ones though, I often listen to the same ones I've heard
> > about 50 times, and can now sort of mouth along to some of them. How
> > sad is that?
> >
>
> give us an example of one you could recite aloud parts of... :-)
>

 
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