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Topic: FW: ISIHAC - Sad news......

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George StillApr 27, 2008
 

 

 
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Topic: Re: FW: ISIHAC - Sad news......

Message 2 / 14
Dean BedfordApr 27, 2008
 

 
On Sunday, April 27, 2008, at 08:10 PM, George Still wrote:

> RIP Humph.
>
> Can I ask a similar question over Mr Parsons?
>
> He’s always said the show would continue and take-on new personalities
> when members of the panel have passed on.
>
>  
>
> What will happen with him?  Who will replace Nick?
>

One thing that will be interesting in watching how the Beeb decides
whether Clue will go on is if it gives us an idea of how they will
handle Nick's departure.

I think in the end if Barry, Graeme and Tim want to continue, Clue will
continue.

Similarly I think if Paul is keen to continue on JAM, the show will
continue. He will also have a big say on who should be the chair.

I'd say it would be someone connected with the show - Gyles Brandreth,
Tim Rice, Kit Hesketh-Harvey and Liza Tarbuck come to mind. Maybe Phill
Jupitus.

For Clue on the other hand I rather think it could be someone outside
the current group. Someone with some stature in the comedy/entertainment
world. I was thinking for example of Jeremy Clarkson and June Whitfield
and Bruce Forsyth to throw some names out of nowhere in particular.

 
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Topic: Re: FW: ISIHAC - Sad news......

Message 3 / 14
Robert TorresApr 27, 2008
 

 
I've always said that the show could very well continue even without Nicholas.  He himself has stated that the show's survival and longevity does not rest on a single individual, that it is a team effort.  this could be applied to the chairmanship as well as the panelists. 

George Still <george@...> wrote:

RIP Humph.

Can I ask a similar question over Mr Parsons?

He’s always said the show would continue and take-on new personalities when members of the panel have passed on.

What will happen with him?  Who will replace Nick?

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Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: ISIHAC - Sad news......

RIP Humph

--- In just-a-minute@ yahoogroups. com, "jcms69" <jameschapman@ ...> wrote:
>
> It is very sad to hear the news that Humph has passed away tonight in
> hospital in London.
>
> RIP Humph. We'll miss you.
>

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Message 4 / 14
Robert TorresApr 27, 2008
 

 
Well, I seem to recall Barry, Graeme and Tim stating that they wouldn't want to continue doing the show without Humph, which is probably just as well. 

Dean Bedford <dbedford@...> wrote:

On Sunday, April 27, 2008, at 08:10 PM, George Still wrote:

> RIP Humph.
>
> Can I ask a similar question over Mr Parsons?
>
> He’s always said the show would continue and take-on new personalities
> when members of the panel have passed on.
>
>  
>
> What will happen with him?  Who will replace Nick?
>

One thing that will be interesting in watching how the Beeb decides
whether Clue will go on is if it gives us an idea of how they will
handle Nick's departure.

I think in the end if Barry, Graeme and Tim want to continue, Clue will
continue.

Similarly I think if Paul is keen to continue on JAM, the show will
continue. He will also have a big say on who should be the chair.

I'd say it would be someone connected with the show - Gyles Brandreth,
Tim Rice, Kit Hesketh-Harvey and Liza Tarbuck come to mind. Maybe Phill
Jupitus.

For Clue on the other hand I rather think it could be someone outside
the current group. Someone with some stature in the comedy/entertainment
world. I was thinking for example of Jeremy Clarkson and June Whitfield
and Bruce Forsyth to throw some names out of nowhere in particular.

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Message 5 / 14
Dean BedfordApr 27, 2008
 

 
On Monday, April 28, 2008, at 06:45 AM, Robert Torres wrote:

> Well, I seem to recall Barry, Graeme and Tim stating that they wouldn't
> want to continue doing the show without Humph, which is probably just
> as well. 

I suggest you read some of the other posts in this thread.

 
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Message 6 / 14
frankntomApr 27, 2008
 

 
--- In just-a-minute@..., Dean Bedford <dbedford@...> wrote:

>
>
> One thing that will be interesting in watching how the Beeb decides
> whether Clue will go on is if it gives us an idea of how they will
> handle Nick's departure.
>
> I think in the end if Barry, Graeme and Tim want to continue, Clue will
> continue.
>
> Similarly I think if Paul is keen to continue on JAM, the show will
> continue. He will also have a big say on who should be the chair.
>
>

Let me tell you how this would come down in the US ---it may sound
cruel and heartless, but there's no way any broadcaster would let a
show as popular as ISIHAC end this abruptly. It's too important a
commodity.

I agree with Dean ...if Barry, Graeme and Tim want to continue, the
show will go on....with a new chairman. And this new chairman will NOT
be doing the same job that Humph did for 50+ series----this chair will
have a different "character" scripted for him/her, just as writers
scripted the "Chairman" character that Humph embodied.

 
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frankntomApr 27, 2008
 

 
I should have added this to my previous note---I could easily hear
Julian Clary as chairman. Of either program. He's got a knack for the
toss-away innuendo so beloved on Clue. And he seems certainly quick
enough to keep up with the panelists.

Or, to go in a completely different directions: Sandi Toksvig. And I
think Gyles Brandreth would be a good chair of either, too.

You wouldn't want a new chairman to be a clone of the old---rarely can
anyone better an original at their own game. Instead, you come up with
a new game ---or character---and give things a new lease on life. It's
like music--no matter how much you love an artist, you can't expect
them to write the same songs over and over again---you might enjoy it,
but the artist would find it stifling.

--- In just-a-minute@..., Dean Bedford <dbedford@...> wrote:
> On Sunday, April 27, 2008, at 08:10 PM, George Still wrote:
>
> > RIP Humph.
> >
> > Can I ask a similar question over Mr Parsons?
> >
> > He's always said the show would continue and take-on new
personalities
> > when members of the panel have passed on.
> >
> >
> >
> > What will happen with him? Who will replace Nick?
> >
>
> One thing that will be interesting in watching how the Beeb decides
> whether Clue will go on is if it gives us an idea of how they will
> handle Nick's departure.
>
> I think in the end if Barry, Graeme and Tim want to continue, Clue will
> continue.
>
> Similarly I think if Paul is keen to continue on JAM, the show will
> continue. He will also have a big say on who should be the chair.
>
> I'd say it would be someone connected with the show - Gyles Brandreth,
> Tim Rice, Kit Hesketh-Harvey and Liza Tarbuck come to mind. Maybe Phill
> Jupitus.
>
> For Clue on the other hand I rather think it could be someone outside
> the current group. Someone with some stature in the
comedy/entertainment
> world. I was thinking for example of Jeremy Clarkson and June Whitfield
> and Bruce Forsyth to throw some names out of nowhere in particular.
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
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Try it now.
>

 
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Message 8 / 14
Robert TorresApr 27, 2008
 

 

--- In just-a-minute@ yahoogroups. com, Dean Bedford <dbedford@.. .> wrote:

>
>
> One thing that will be interesting in watching how the Beeb decides
> whether

Clue will go on is if it gives us an idea of how they will

> handle Nick's departure.
>
> I think in the end if Barry, Graeme and Tim want to continue, Clue will
> continue.
>
> Similarly I think if Paul is keen to continue on JAM, the show will
> continue. He will also have a big say on who should be the chair.
>
>

Let me tell you how this would come down in the US ---it may sound
cruel and heartless, but there's no way any broadcaster would let a
show as popular as ISIHAC end this abruptly. It's too important a
commodity.

I agree with Dean ...if Barry, Graeme and Tim want to continue, the
show will go on....with a new chairman. And this new chairman will NOT
be doing the same job that Humph did for 50+ series----this chair will
have a different "character" scripted for him/her, just as writers
scripted the "Chairman" character that Humph embodied.

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kjnaughtonApr 28, 2008
 

 
--- In just-a-minute@..., "frankntom" <frankntom@...>
wrote:

>
> Let me tell you how this would come down in the US ---it may sound
> cruel and heartless, but there's no way any broadcaster would let a
> show as popular as ISIHAC end this abruptly. It's too important a
> commodity.

But, due to the unique way in which the BBC is funded, it's likely to
be done very differently. ISIHAC has little commercial value; sure
there are a few audio tapes but it's only recently that the BBC has
started to realise the value, for example the recent (and forthcoming)
release of extended recordings.

> I agree with Dean ...if Barry, Graeme and Tim want to continue, the
> show will go on....with a new chairman. And this new chairman will

NOT

> be doing the same job that Humph did for 50+ series----this chair

will

> have a different "character" scripted for him/her, just as writers
> scripted the "Chairman" character that Humph embodied.

I also agree. Some said that the show couldn't survive the death of
Willy Rushton. But the wise decision not to permanently replace Willy
brought a fresh breath of life to the show. Perhaps it's heretical,
but I actually prefer the post-Rushton shows. Perhaps ISIHAC may
follow the "Have I Got News For You" model and have visiting chairs.
However if Barry, Tim and Graeme don't want to do it then it probably
couldn't survive the loss of four people.

I certainly hope that ISIHAC will survive; if nothing else the
performers now have a greater personal financial interest in keeping
it going (viz the live tour). However it won't and shouldn't be the
same. It has to evolve and move on.

Kevin.

 
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Message 10 / 14
Dean BedfordApr 28, 2008
 

 
On Monday, April 28, 2008, at 01:48 PM, frankntom wrote:

>
> I should have added this to my previous note---I could easily hear
> Julian Clary as chairman. Of either program. He's got a knack for the
> toss-away innuendo so beloved on Clue. And he seems certainly quick
> enough to keep up with the panelists.
>
> Or, to go in a completely different directions: Sandi Toksvig. And I
> think Gyles Brandreth would be a good chair of either, too.
>
> You wouldn't want a new chairman to be a clone of the old---rarely can
> anyone better an original at their own game. Instead, you come up with
> a new game ---or character---and give things a new lease on life. It's
> like music--no matter how much you love an artist, you can't expect
> them to write the same songs over and over again---you might enjoy it,
> but the artist would find it stifling.

these are all good comments - I agree with the need not to be a clone.
And yes Julian would be a great choice for either show. I could hear him
being very funny on JAM in that role.

One thing - Sandi Toksvig is already chairing News Quiz so i don't see
her getting the same gig on another Radio Four comedy panel game.

 
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Paul WimsettApr 28, 2008
 

 
--- In just-a-minute@..., Dean Bedford <dbedford@...>
wrote:

>
>
> On Monday, April 28, 2008, at 01:48 PM, frankntom wrote:
>
> >
> > I should have added this to my previous note---I could easily hear
> > Julian Clary as chairman. Of either program. He's got a knack for

the

> > toss-away innuendo so beloved on Clue. And he seems certainly

quick

> > enough to keep up with the panelists.
> >
> > Or, to go in a completely different directions: Sandi Toksvig.

And I

> > think Gyles Brandreth would be a good chair of either, too.
> >
> > You wouldn't want a new chairman to be a clone of the old---

rarely can

> > anyone better an original at their own game. Instead, you come up

with

> > a new game ---or character---and give things a new lease on life.

It's

> > like music--no matter how much you love an artist, you can't

expect

> > them to write the same songs over and over again---you might

enjoy it,

> > but the artist would find it stifling.
>
> these are all good comments - I agree with the need not to be a

clone.

> And yes Julian would be a great choice for either show. I could

hear him

> being very funny on JAM in that role.
>
> One thing - Sandi Toksvig is already chairing News Quiz so i don't

see

> her getting the same gig on another Radio Four comedy panel game.
>

It is sad news. Humph has reached the pearly gates of infinity... I
did read that Ben Schott wanted to host ISIHAC, the trouble is,
whatever the host it wouldn't be the same show at all without
Humphrey Lyttleton.

 
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Message 12 / 14
Robert TorresApr 28, 2008
 

 
It would be interesting if they chose Julian Clary as the new chairman.  I think one of his first proclamations would be to feature Sven more often, and all the innuendo jokes reserved for Samantha would be fully exploited for Sven in a very strong homoerotic manner. 

Dean Bedford <dbedford@...> wrote:

On Monday, April 28, 2008, at 01:48 PM, frankntom wrote:

>
> I should have added this to my previous note---I could easily hear
> Julian Clary as chairman. Of either program. He's got a knack for the
> toss-away innuendo so beloved on Clue. And he seems certainly quick
> enough to keep up with the panelists.
>
> Or, to go in a completely different directions: Sandi Toksvig. And I
> think Gyles Brandreth would be a good chair of either, too.
>
> You wouldn't want a new chairman to be a clone of the old---rarely can
> anyone better an original at their own game. Instead, you come up with
> a new game ---or character---and give things a new lease on life. It's
> like music--no matter how much you love an artist, you can't expect
> them to write the same songs over and over again---you might enjoy it,
> but the artist would find it stifling.

these are all good comments - I agree with the need not to be a clone.
And yes Julian would be a great choice for either show. I could hear him
being very funny on JAM in that role.

One thing - Sandi Toksvig is already chairing News Quiz so i don't see
her getting the same gig on another Radio Four comedy panel game.

---

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BikerDonApr 30, 2008
 

 

 
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Anthony HobsonApr 30, 2008