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Topic: FW: ISIHAC - Sad news......

Message 1 / 9
frankntomApr 27, 2008
 

 
--- In just-a-minute@..., Dean Bedford <dbedford@...> wrote:

>
>
> One thing that will be interesting in watching how the Beeb decides
> whether Clue will go on is if it gives us an idea of how they will
> handle Nick's departure.
>
> I think in the end if Barry, Graeme and Tim want to continue, Clue will
> continue.
>
> Similarly I think if Paul is keen to continue on JAM, the show will
> continue. He will also have a big say on who should be the chair.
>
>

Let me tell you how this would come down in the US ---it may sound
cruel and heartless, but there's no way any broadcaster would let a
show as popular as ISIHAC end this abruptly. It's too important a
commodity.

I agree with Dean ...if Barry, Graeme and Tim want to continue, the
show will go on....with a new chairman. And this new chairman will NOT
be doing the same job that Humph did for 50+ series----this chair will
have a different "character" scripted for him/her, just as writers
scripted the "Chairman" character that Humph embodied.

 
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Topic: FW: ISIHAC - Sad news......

Message 2 / 9
frankntomApr 27, 2008
 

 
I should have added this to my previous note---I could easily hear
Julian Clary as chairman. Of either program. He's got a knack for the
toss-away innuendo so beloved on Clue. And he seems certainly quick
enough to keep up with the panelists.

Or, to go in a completely different directions: Sandi Toksvig. And I
think Gyles Brandreth would be a good chair of either, too.

You wouldn't want a new chairman to be a clone of the old---rarely can
anyone better an original at their own game. Instead, you come up with
a new game ---or character---and give things a new lease on life. It's
like music--no matter how much you love an artist, you can't expect
them to write the same songs over and over again---you might enjoy it,
but the artist would find it stifling.

--- In just-a-minute@..., Dean Bedford <dbedford@...> wrote:
> On Sunday, April 27, 2008, at 08:10 PM, George Still wrote:
>
> > RIP Humph.
> >
> > Can I ask a similar question over Mr Parsons?
> >
> > He's always said the show would continue and take-on new
personalities
> > when members of the panel have passed on.
> >
> >
> >
> > What will happen with him? Who will replace Nick?
> >
>
> One thing that will be interesting in watching how the Beeb decides
> whether Clue will go on is if it gives us an idea of how they will
> handle Nick's departure.
>
> I think in the end if Barry, Graeme and Tim want to continue, Clue will
> continue.
>
> Similarly I think if Paul is keen to continue on JAM, the show will
> continue. He will also have a big say on who should be the chair.
>
> I'd say it would be someone connected with the show - Gyles Brandreth,
> Tim Rice, Kit Hesketh-Harvey and Liza Tarbuck come to mind. Maybe Phill
> Jupitus.
>
> For Clue on the other hand I rather think it could be someone outside
> the current group. Someone with some stature in the
comedy/entertainment
> world. I was thinking for example of Jeremy Clarkson and June Whitfield
> and Bruce Forsyth to throw some names out of nowhere in particular.
>
>
>
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Message 3 / 9
Robert TorresApr 27, 2008
 

 

--- In just-a-minute@ yahoogroups. com, Dean Bedford <dbedford@.. .> wrote:

>
>
> One thing that will be interesting in watching how the Beeb decides
> whether

Clue will go on is if it gives us an idea of how they will

> handle Nick's departure.
>
> I think in the end if Barry, Graeme and Tim want to continue, Clue will
> continue.
>
> Similarly I think if Paul is keen to continue on JAM, the show will
> continue. He will also have a big say on who should be the chair.
>
>

Let me tell you how this would come down in the US ---it may sound
cruel and heartless, but there's no way any broadcaster would let a
show as popular as ISIHAC end this abruptly. It's too important a
commodity.

I agree with Dean ...if Barry, Graeme and Tim want to continue, the
show will go on....with a new chairman. And this new chairman will NOT
be doing the same job that Humph did for 50+ series----this chair will
have a different "character" scripted for him/her, just as writers
scripted the "Chairman" character that Humph embodied.

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Topic: FW: ISIHAC - Sad news......

Message 4 / 9
kjnaughtonApr 28, 2008
 

 
--- In just-a-minute@..., "frankntom" <frankntom@...>
wrote:

>
> Let me tell you how this would come down in the US ---it may sound
> cruel and heartless, but there's no way any broadcaster would let a
> show as popular as ISIHAC end this abruptly. It's too important a
> commodity.

But, due to the unique way in which the BBC is funded, it's likely to
be done very differently. ISIHAC has little commercial value; sure
there are a few audio tapes but it's only recently that the BBC has
started to realise the value, for example the recent (and forthcoming)
release of extended recordings.

> I agree with Dean ...if Barry, Graeme and Tim want to continue, the
> show will go on....with a new chairman. And this new chairman will

NOT

> be doing the same job that Humph did for 50+ series----this chair

will

> have a different "character" scripted for him/her, just as writers
> scripted the "Chairman" character that Humph embodied.

I also agree. Some said that the show couldn't survive the death of
Willy Rushton. But the wise decision not to permanently replace Willy
brought a fresh breath of life to the show. Perhaps it's heretical,
but I actually prefer the post-Rushton shows. Perhaps ISIHAC may
follow the "Have I Got News For You" model and have visiting chairs.
However if Barry, Tim and Graeme don't want to do it then it probably
couldn't survive the loss of four people.

I certainly hope that ISIHAC will survive; if nothing else the
performers now have a greater personal financial interest in keeping
it going (viz the live tour). However it won't and shouldn't be the
same. It has to evolve and move on.

Kevin.

 
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Topic: Re: FW: ISIHAC - Sad news......

Message 5 / 9
Dean BedfordApr 28, 2008
 

 
On Monday, April 28, 2008, at 01:48 PM, frankntom wrote:

>
> I should have added this to my previous note---I could easily hear
> Julian Clary as chairman. Of either program. He's got a knack for the
> toss-away innuendo so beloved on Clue. And he seems certainly quick
> enough to keep up with the panelists.
>
> Or, to go in a completely different directions: Sandi Toksvig. And I
> think Gyles Brandreth would be a good chair of either, too.
>
> You wouldn't want a new chairman to be a clone of the old---rarely can
> anyone better an original at their own game. Instead, you come up with
> a new game ---or character---and give things a new lease on life. It's
> like music--no matter how much you love an artist, you can't expect
> them to write the same songs over and over again---you might enjoy it,
> but the artist would find it stifling.

these are all good comments - I agree with the need not to be a clone.
And yes Julian would be a great choice for either show. I could hear him
being very funny on JAM in that role.

One thing - Sandi Toksvig is already chairing News Quiz so i don't see
her getting the same gig on another Radio Four comedy panel game.

 
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Message 6 / 9
Paul WimsettApr 28, 2008
 

 
--- In just-a-minute@..., Dean Bedford <dbedford@...>
wrote:

>
>
> On Monday, April 28, 2008, at 01:48 PM, frankntom wrote:
>
> >
> > I should have added this to my previous note---I could easily hear
> > Julian Clary as chairman. Of either program. He's got a knack for

the

> > toss-away innuendo so beloved on Clue. And he seems certainly

quick

> > enough to keep up with the panelists.
> >
> > Or, to go in a completely different directions: Sandi Toksvig.

And I

> > think Gyles Brandreth would be a good chair of either, too.
> >
> > You wouldn't want a new chairman to be a clone of the old---

rarely can

> > anyone better an original at their own game. Instead, you come up

with

> > a new game ---or character---and give things a new lease on life.

It's

> > like music--no matter how much you love an artist, you can't

expect

> > them to write the same songs over and over again---you might

enjoy it,

> > but the artist would find it stifling.
>
> these are all good comments - I agree with the need not to be a

clone.

> And yes Julian would be a great choice for either show. I could

hear him

> being very funny on JAM in that role.
>
> One thing - Sandi Toksvig is already chairing News Quiz so i don't

see

> her getting the same gig on another Radio Four comedy panel game.
>

It is sad news. Humph has reached the pearly gates of infinity... I
did read that Ben Schott wanted to host ISIHAC, the trouble is,
whatever the host it wouldn't be the same show at all without
Humphrey Lyttleton.

 
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Message 7 / 9
Robert TorresApr 28, 2008
 

 
It would be interesting if they chose Julian Clary as the new chairman.  I think one of his first proclamations would be to feature Sven more often, and all the innuendo jokes reserved for Samantha would be fully exploited for Sven in a very strong homoerotic manner. 

Dean Bedford <dbedford@...> wrote:

On Monday, April 28, 2008, at 01:48 PM, frankntom wrote:

>
> I should have added this to my previous note---I could easily hear
> Julian Clary as chairman. Of either program. He's got a knack for the
> toss-away innuendo so beloved on Clue. And he seems certainly quick
> enough to keep up with the panelists.
>
> Or, to go in a completely different directions: Sandi Toksvig. And I
> think Gyles Brandreth would be a good chair of either, too.
>
> You wouldn't want a new chairman to be a clone of the old---rarely can
> anyone better an original at their own game. Instead, you come up with
> a new game ---or character---and give things a new lease on life. It's
> like music--no matter how much you love an artist, you can't expect
> them to write the same songs over and over again---you might enjoy it,
> but the artist would find it stifling.

these are all good comments - I agree with the need not to be a clone.
And yes Julian would be a great choice for either show. I could hear him
being very funny on JAM in that role.

One thing - Sandi Toksvig is already chairing News Quiz so i don't see
her getting the same gig on another Radio Four comedy panel game.

---

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BikerDonApr 30, 2008
 

 

 
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Anthony HobsonApr 30, 2008