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Topic: ISIHAC TV pilot

Message 1 / 6
thomaswake16May 12, 2008
 

 
I remember in last year's BBC "Time Shift" documentary about TV
remakes of radio shows that a TV pilot of ISIHAC was made. This seemed
ridiculous to me at first, given that the nature of the show means
that most of it could only really work on radio, and I was intrigued
at the idea.

Does anyone know more about it? Google tells me that it was made by
Granada and shelved because they wanted a younger line-up, but other
than that, I can't find much. Does anyone know what year was it
recorded? Presumably Willie Rushton was also present if it was made in
the early 90s.

 
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Topic: Re: ISIHAC TV pilot

Message 2 / 6
lindaMay 13, 2008
 

 
--- In just-a-minute@..., "thomaswake16"
<thomaswake16@...> wrote:

>
> I remember in last year's BBC "Time Shift" documentary about TV
> remakes of radio shows that a TV pilot of ISIHAC was made. This

seemed

> ridiculous to me at first, given that the nature of the show means
> that most of it could only really work on radio, and I was

intrigued

> at the idea.
>
> Does anyone know more about it? Google tells me that it was made by
> Granada and shelved because they wanted a younger line-up, but

other

> than that, I can't find much. Does anyone know what year was it
> recorded? Presumably Willie Rushton was also present if it was

made in

> the early 90s.

this is taken from the bbc 30th anniversary of clue site :
There was going to be a TV version of Clue but you were deemed too
old for television.

"Tim: Well, we did a pilot. BBC weren't interested, naturally. So we
did a pilot for ITV and everybody seemed to like it. We didn't get
it quite right but it was going in the right direction. It went to
the central area where they decide what to put on and they
said, "Yes, great programme but could we have some younger people in
it?"
Barry: Can I apologise for hogging this?
Graeme: Yes, of course you can.
Barry: I apologise for hogging this.
Graeme: At the back of all our minds was the worry that it is such a
radio programme. It really exists on radio and works on radio and is
about radio and putting it on television might somehow take away
from its myth, might somehow spoil the radio show. We were never
100% about it.
Tim: I was 100% about it as long as you kept going on on radio at
the same time. That was pure greed though!
Barry: Willie was ambivalent as I remember, sort of bolt fast at one
point.
Tim: I would actually quite like to have done it in a way because
then we could have done some visual jokes which you can't do on
radio. So there would have been an extra element and we started to
try and put those on the pilot, didn't we? And not many of them
worked because they technically wouldn't work"

if you think that the show would only work on radio what was your
reaction to the thought of the live shows . it worked fine on stage
so i can imagine it would have worked well on tv .
cheers
Linda

 
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Topic: Re: ISIHAC TV pilot

Message 3 / 6
thomaswake16May 13, 2008
 

 
Fair point. It just seems to me that most of the audio-only gags (e.g.
Samantha) are running jokes that the live audience would have
understood. I can't imagine it would have played as well with a TV
audience, which would presumably include a reasonable number of people
who had never listened to the radio show.

Of course, the same was true of the radio series when it first
started. I suppose it's like the JAM TV series - it seems to me that
there's something fundamental about it that just wouldn't feel "right"
on TV, but I can't really put my finger on what it is.

--- In just-a-minute@..., "linda" <irishmanufan@...> wrote:
>
> --- In just-a-minute@..., "thomaswake16"
> <thomaswake16@> wrote:
> >
> > I remember in last year's BBC "Time Shift" documentary about TV
> > remakes of radio shows that a TV pilot of ISIHAC was made. This
> seemed
> > ridiculous to me at first, given that the nature of the show means
> > that most of it could only really work on radio, and I was
> intrigued
> > at the idea.
> >
> > Does anyone know more about it? Google tells me that it was made by
> > Granada and shelved because they wanted a younger line-up, but
> other
> > than that, I can't find much. Does anyone know what year was it
> > recorded? Presumably Willie Rushton was also present if it was
> made in
> > the early 90s.
>
>
> this is taken from the bbc 30th anniversary of clue site :
> There was going to be a TV version of Clue but you were deemed too
> old for television.
>
> "Tim: Well, we did a pilot. BBC weren't interested, naturally. So we
> did a pilot for ITV and everybody seemed to like it. We didn't get
> it quite right but it was going in the right direction. It went to
> the central area where they decide what to put on and they
> said, "Yes, great programme but could we have some younger people in
> it?"
> Barry: Can I apologise for hogging this?
> Graeme: Yes, of course you can.
> Barry: I apologise for hogging this.
> Graeme: At the back of all our minds was the worry that it is such a
> radio programme. It really exists on radio and works on radio and is
> about radio and putting it on television might somehow take away
> from its myth, might somehow spoil the radio show. We were never
> 100% about it.
> Tim: I was 100% about it as long as you kept going on on radio at
> the same time. That was pure greed though!
> Barry: Willie was ambivalent as I remember, sort of bolt fast at one
> point.
> Tim: I would actually quite like to have done it in a way because
> then we could have done some visual jokes which you can't do on
> radio. So there would have been an extra element and we started to
> try and put those on the pilot, didn't we? And not many of them
> worked because they technically wouldn't work"
>
> if you think that the show would only work on radio what was your
> reaction to the thought of the live shows . it worked fine on stage
> so i can imagine it would have worked well on tv .
> cheers
> Linda
>

 
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Topic: Re: ISIHAC TV pilot

Message 4 / 6
thomaswake16May 13, 2008
 

 
I don't suppose anyone knows what year it was made? The closest I've
been able to find is "early 90s".

--- In just-a-minute@..., "thomaswake16"
<thomaswake16@...> wrote:

>
> Fair point. It just seems to me that most of the audio-only gags (e.g.
> Samantha) are running jokes that the live audience would have
> understood. I can't imagine it would have played as well with a TV
> audience, which would presumably include a reasonable number of people
> who had never listened to the radio show.
>
> Of course, the same was true of the radio series when it first
> started. I suppose it's like the JAM TV series - it seems to me that
> there's something fundamental about it that just wouldn't feel "right"
> on TV, but I can't really put my finger on what it is.
>
> --- In just-a-minute@..., "linda" <irishmanufan@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In just-a-minute@..., "thomaswake16"
> > <thomaswake16@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I remember in last year's BBC "Time Shift" documentary about TV
> > > remakes of radio shows that a TV pilot of ISIHAC was made. This
> > seemed
> > > ridiculous to me at first, given that the nature of the show means
> > > that most of it could only really work on radio, and I was
> > intrigued
> > > at the idea.
> > >
> > > Does anyone know more about it? Google tells me that it was made by
> > > Granada and shelved because they wanted a younger line-up, but
> > other
> > > than that, I can't find much. Does anyone know what year was it
> > > recorded? Presumably Willie Rushton was also present if it was
> > made in
> > > the early 90s.
> >
> >
> > this is taken from the bbc 30th anniversary of clue site :
> > There was going to be a TV version of Clue but you were deemed too
> > old for television.
> >
> > "Tim: Well, we did a pilot. BBC weren't interested, naturally. So we
> > did a pilot for ITV and everybody seemed to like it. We didn't get
> > it quite right but it was going in the right direction. It went to
> > the central area where they decide what to put on and they
> > said, "Yes, great programme but could we have some younger people in
> > it?"
> > Barry: Can I apologise for hogging this?
> > Graeme: Yes, of course you can.
> > Barry: I apologise for hogging this.
> > Graeme: At the back of all our minds was the worry that it is such a
> > radio programme. It really exists on radio and works on radio and is
> > about radio and putting it on television might somehow take away
> > from its myth, might somehow spoil the radio show. We were never
> > 100% about it.
> > Tim: I was 100% about it as long as you kept going on on radio at
> > the same time. That was pure greed though!
> > Barry: Willie was ambivalent as I remember, sort of bolt fast at one
> > point.
> > Tim: I would actually quite like to have done it in a way because
> > then we could have done some visual jokes which you can't do on
> > radio. So there would have been an extra element and we started to
> > try and put those on the pilot, didn't we? And not many of them
> > worked because they technically wouldn't work"
> >
> > if you think that the show would only work on radio what was your
> > reaction to the thought of the live shows . it worked fine on stage
> > so i can imagine it would have worked well on tv .
> > cheers
> > Linda
> >
>

 
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Topic: Re: ISIHAC TV pilot

Message 5 / 6
lapsedcatMay 14, 2008
 

 
Does anyone know when the ISIHAC tribute show and the series of
special programmes are going to be broadcast?

--- In just-a-minute@..., "thomaswake16"
<thomaswake16@...> wrote:

>
> I don't suppose anyone knows what year it was made? The closest I've
> been able to find is "early 90s".
>
> --- In just-a-minute@..., "thomaswake16"
> <thomaswake16@> wrote:
> >
> > Fair point. It just seems to me that most of the audio-only gags

(e.g.

> > Samantha) are running jokes that the live audience would have
> > understood. I can't imagine it would have played as well with a TV
> > audience, which would presumably include a reasonable number of

people

> > who had never listened to the radio show.
> >
> > Of course, the same was true of the radio series when it first
> > started. I suppose it's like the JAM TV series - it seems to me

that

> > there's something fundamental about it that just wouldn't

feel "right"

> > on TV, but I can't really put my finger on what it is.
> >
> > --- In just-a-minute@..., "linda" <irishmanufan@>

wrote:

> > >
> > > --- In just-a-minute@..., "thomaswake16"
> > > <thomaswake16@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I remember in last year's BBC "Time Shift" documentary about

TV

> > > > remakes of radio shows that a TV pilot of ISIHAC was made.

This

> > > seemed
> > > > ridiculous to me at first, given that the nature of the show

means

> > > > that most of it could only really work on radio, and I was
> > > intrigued
> > > > at the idea.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone know more about it? Google tells me that it was

made by

> > > > Granada and shelved because they wanted a younger line-up,

but

> > > other
> > > > than that, I can't find much. Does anyone know what year was

it

> > > > recorded? Presumably Willie Rushton was also present if it

was

> > > made in
> > > > the early 90s.
> > >
> > >
> > > this is taken from the bbc 30th anniversary of clue site :
> > > There was going to be a TV version of Clue but you were deemed

too

> > > old for television.
> > >
> > > "Tim: Well, we did a pilot. BBC weren't interested, naturally.

So we

> > > did a pilot for ITV and everybody seemed to like it. We didn't

get

> > > it quite right but it was going in the right direction. It went

to

> > > the central area where they decide what to put on and they
> > > said, "Yes, great programme but could we have some younger

people in

> > > it?"
> > > Barry: Can I apologise for hogging this?
> > > Graeme: Yes, of course you can.
> > > Barry: I apologise for hogging this.
> > > Graeme: At the back of all our minds was the worry that it is

such a

> > > radio programme. It really exists on radio and works on radio

and is

> > > about radio and putting it on television might somehow take

away

> > > from its myth, might somehow spoil the radio show. We were

never

> > > 100% about it.
> > > Tim: I was 100% about it as long as you kept going on on radio

at

> > > the same time. That was pure greed though!
> > > Barry: Willie was ambivalent as I remember, sort of bolt fast

at one

> > > point.
> > > Tim: I would actually quite like to have done it in a way

because

> > > then we could have done some visual jokes which you can't do on
> > > radio. So there would have been an extra element and we started

to

> > > try and put those on the pilot, didn't we? And not many of them
> > > worked because they technically wouldn't work"
> > >
> > > if you think that the show would only work on radio what was

your

> > > reaction to the thought of the live shows . it worked fine on

stage

> > > so i can imagine it would have worked well on tv .
> > > cheers
> > > Linda
> > >
> >
>

 
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Topic: Re: ISIHAC TV pilot

Message 6 / 6
Dean BedfordMay 16, 2008
 

 
On Tuesday, May 13, 2008, at 11:16 PM, thomaswake16 wrote:

> Fair point. It just seems to me that most of the audio-only gags (e.g.
> Samantha) are running jokes that the live audience would have
> understood. I can't imagine it would have played as well with a TV
> audience, which would presumably include a reasonable number of people
> who had never listened to the radio show.
>
> Of course, the same was true of the radio series when it first
> started. I suppose it's like the JAM TV series - it seems to me that
> there's something fundamental about it that just wouldn't feel "right"
> on TV, but I can't really put my finger on what it is.

I think it's just static - nothing happening visually. Word games don't
work on the telly unless they have a visual element - Call My Bluff
you're wanting to see if they can keep a straight face - Countdown has a
variety of visual devices. that's why they tried to introduce an object
round into JAM on TV - but it doesn't work...