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Topic: Will we ever see a "live" JAM CD set

Message 1 / 18
MiriamMay 29, 2008
 
 
I see that Clue has released another one. Miriam
 
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Topic: Re: Will we ever see a "live" JAM CD set

Message 2 / 18
Dean BedfordMay 29, 2008
 
 
On Friday, May 30, 2008, at 01:13 PM, Miriam wrote:

> I see that Clue has released another one. Miriam

what do you mean by a live CD?
 
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Topic: Re: Will we ever see a "live" JAM CD set

Message 3 / 18
Chris FisherMay 30, 2008
 
 
--- In just-a-minute@..., Dean Bedford <dbedford@...> wrote:
>
>
> On Friday, May 30, 2008, at 01:13 PM, Miriam wrote:
>
> > I see that Clue has released another one. Miriam
>
> what do you mean by a live CD?
>

The live ISIHAC CD is the whole material from recording, it basically
includes deleted scenes and outtakes, the idea is that it's like being
at a recording of ISIHAC and hearing everything as oppose to just the
30 minutes that are broadcast.

Chris
 
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Topic: Re: Will we ever see a "live" JAM CD set

Message 4 / 18
lindaMay 30, 2008
 
 
--- In just-a-minute@..., Dean Bedford <dbedford@...> wrote:
>
>
> On Friday, May 30, 2008, at 01:13 PM, Miriam wrote:
>
> > I see that Clue has released another one. Miriam
>
> what do you mean by a live CD?

i am surprised you have not heard of them dean . they rock ! bascially
it is a less edited version of an isihac recording , mistakes and all.
they even have some of jon naismiths warm up ! if you have i tunes look
up the first live cd there . you can get it through audible .com .it is
worth investing in

if you want to buy it from amazon here is the link to amazon.co.uk
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Im-Sorry-Havent-Clue-
Live/dp/1846070538/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1212139349&sr=8-4

the i'm sorry i haven't a clue second live cd is not due out until 10th
july according to amazon.co.uk . here is the link :
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sorry-Havent-Clue-Live
Collection/dp/140568836X/ref=sr_1_13?
ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1212139349&sr=8-13

you may have to cut and paste this as the group message page seems to
have no html function where you can programe in a link , the same with
the second link too !

there is also a new version of the uxbridge english dictionary out now
and coming out later in the year a hamish and dougal script book and
something called Lyttelton's Britain: Humphrey Lyttelton's Gazetter of
the British Isles

sorry about sounding like an infomercial !

cheers
Linda
 
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Topic: Re: Will we ever see a "live" JAM CD set

Message 5 / 18
Dean BedfordMay 30, 2008
 
 
On Friday, May 30, 2008, at 09:33 PM, linda wrote:

> i am surprised you have not heard of them dean . they rock ! bascially
> it is a less edited version of an isihac recording , mistakes and all.
> they even have some of jon naismiths warm up !

thanks Linda and Chris, interesting.

I've only been to two JAM recordings but really, there isn't a lot of
gold left on the cutting room floor. I can only think of one incident.
Paul Merton went into this brilliant monologue which had reached
something like 50 seconds and it was very very funny, classic Merton
surrealism. He then clearly accidentally used the word "shit". He
immediately stopped and hung his head in shame, and the audience laughed
and applauded of course. Ross Noble pressed his buzzer and said "are you
allowed to say shit on the radio?" He finished off the minute.

There have been a few incidents of the word shit going to air on JAM and
as Paul had been so very funny I wondered if they might leave it in. But
they didn't. I wondered after if they might have let it go if Ross
hadn't repeated the word.

But that was it in three hours of live JAM. I wonder if they would have
enough material to make this sort of unedited edition worthwhile. Anyone
else got any stories of very funny moments at a live recording that
didn't make it to air?
 
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Topic: Re: Will we ever see a "live" JAM CD set

Message 6 / 18
Robert TorresMay 30, 2008
 
 
well this certainly dispells Nicholas' claims that nothing is ever edited out in JAM. 

Dean Bedford <dbedford@...> wrote:

On Friday, May 30, 2008, at 09:33 PM, linda wrote:

> i am surprised you have not heard of them dean . they rock ! bascially
> it is a less edited version of an isihac recording , mistakes and all.
> they even have some of jon naismiths warm up !

thanks Linda and Chris, interesting.

I've only been to two JAM recordings but really, there isn't a lot of
gold left on the cutting room floor. I can only think of one incident.
Paul Merton went into this brilliant monologue which had reached
something like 50 seconds and it was very very funny, classic Merton
surrealism. He then clearly accidentally used the word "shit". He
immediately stopped and hung his head in shame, and the audience laughed
and applauded of course. Ross Noble pressed his buzzer and said "are you
allowed to say shit on the radio?" He finished off the minute.

There have been a few incidents of the word shit going to air on JAM and
as Paul had been so very funny I wondered if they might leave it in. But
they didn't. I wondered after if they might have let it go if Ross
hadn't repeated the word.

But that was it in three hours of live JAM. I wonder if they would have
enough material to make this sort of unedited edition worthwhile. Anyone
else got any stories of very funny moments at a live recording that
didn't make it to air?


 
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Topic: Re: Will we ever see a "live" JAM CD set

Message 7 / 18
MiriamMay 30, 2008
 
 
To me the best bit from the 1st "live" Clue was that on the buzzer
system they still had the panelist's names from JAM on them! Miriam



--- In just-a-minute@..., Robert Torres
<bobbyshaddoe3004@...> wrote:
>
> well this certainly dispells Nicholas' claims that nothing is ever
edited out in JAM.
>
> Dean Bedford <dbedford@...> wrote:
> On Friday, May 30, 2008, at 09:33 PM, linda wrote:
>
> > i am surprised you have not heard of them dean . they rock !
bascially
> > it is a less edited version of an isihac recording , mistakes and
all.
> > they even have some of jon naismiths warm up !
>
> thanks Linda and Chris, interesting.
>
> I've only been to two JAM recordings but really, there isn't a lot
of
> gold left on the cutting room floor. I can only think of one
incident.
> Paul Merton went into this brilliant monologue which had reached
> something like 50 seconds and it was very very funny, classic
Merton
> surrealism. He then clearly accidentally used the word "shit". He
> immediately stopped and hung his head in shame, and the audience
laughed
> and applauded of course. Ross Noble pressed his buzzer and
said "are you
> allowed to say shit on the radio?" He finished off the minute.
>
> There have been a few incidents of the word shit going to air on
JAM and
> as Paul had been so very funny I wondered if they might leave it
in. But
> they didn't. I wondered after if they might have let it go if Ross
> hadn't repeated the word.
>
> But that was it in three hours of live JAM. I wonder if they would
have
> enough material to make this sort of unedited edition worthwhile.
Anyone
> else got any stories of very funny moments at a live recording that
> didn't make it to air?
>

 
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Topic: Re: Will we ever see a "live" JAM CD set

Message 8 / 18
Anthony HobsonMay 30, 2008
 
 

Clue Live vol. 2 will be released by BBC Audiobooks on 17th July 2008. Synopsis from BBC Shop:

 

A second volume of two specially compiled, extended-length shows from Jon Naismith's production archive, featuring out-takes, ad libs and audience interaction from the Clue team. Taken from the early 1990s, these shows (edition dates t.b.c.) feature the classic Clue line up of Humphrey Lyttelton, Graeme Garden , Barry Cryer, Tim Brooke-Taylor, Jeremy Hardy and the much-missed Willie Rushton. May contain swearing

 

And there you have it. You could’ve sworn it was an elephant. Which brings me onto another Clue-related item – the Hamish & Dougal book will finally be released on 28th August 2008. Synopsis from publishers Random House:

 

Hello there! You’ll have had your tea? Dougal here. Well, here we go, with our wee book. It’s a collection or pot pourri (I’ve no idea what Hamish means by that – it sounds like something to do with the Pope) of our activities or ‘doings’ in the village we call home, because that’s exactly what it is.

Together with our housekeeper, Mrs Naughtie, and of course, the Laird who lives up at the big hoose and shoots grouse and other bottles of whisky, these are the actual scripts of our wee show which we performed on the wireless, when most of you were probably in bed!

Hamish and I have known each other all our lives – well, not yet, obviously! We have a very close relationship and also with each other. Mrs Naughtie been with us since we first met her at the Krankie Arms, where she was working as part-time barmaid and bouncer.

In addition to the scripts you’ll find all kinds of other things tucked away under its kilt. There’s a hectic social life in the village. You’ll visit the 'bide a wee' café, proud possessor of
three Michelin tyres. You’ll have a conducted tour of the big hoose by Big Tam, our local guide (not during opening hours). You’ll marvel at the site of the Battle of Auchtermuchty, now allotments. You’ll peek into the Laird’s social diary in ‘oot and aboot’ (40p at the post office). And a great deal more.

Well, I hope this wee note will make you hurry to the till and spend the terrible amount of money these wee books cost these days. But then again this particular wee book is Scotland ’s answer to Richard and Judy! Hurrah!

Away now…

                                                                                                            

Although Humph and Clue may be gone, we can still have these mementoes to take home in a little doggy bag J

 

I just bought the first Clue Live CD set with Jeremy Hardy’s first recording (Harrogate, November 1995), and one of Willie Rushton’s last (Liverpool, October 1996)… and I’ve got The New Uxbridge English Dictionary, which contains a lot of the New Definitions from the round of the same name, so I end this message with a little taster from the book (available for £7.99 from all good bookshops):

 

Hamas – what Geordies use to bang nails in

Endorse – loser in the Grand National

AWOL – dyslexic owl

Sanctity – multiple-breasted Frenchwoman

Arsenic – to steal buttocks

 

Ant


From: just-a-minute@... [mailto: just-a-minute@... ] On Behalf Of Miriam
Sent: 30 May 2008 02:13
To: just-a-minute@...
Subject: [just-a-minute] Will we ever see a "live" JAM cd set

 

I see that Clue has released another one. Miriam


 
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Topic: Re: Will we ever see a "live" JAM CD set

Message 9 / 18
Robert TorresMay 30, 2008
 
 
Now THAT's funny!

Miriam <delmelza@...> wrote:
To me the best bit from the 1st "live" Clue was that on the buzzer
system they still had the panelist's names from JAM on them! Miriam


 
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Topic: Re: Will we ever see a "live" JAM CD set

Message 10 / 18
Anthony HobsonMay 31, 2008
 
 

Yeah, the buzzers were shipped from a recording of Just a Minute in Nottingham to Harrogate . Loved Willie’s (brief) impression of Clement.

 

Ant

 


From: just-a-minute@... [mailto: just-a-minute@... ] On Behalf Of Robert Torres
Sent: 31 May 2008 01:10
To: just-a-minute@...
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: Will we ever see a "live" JAM cd set

 

Now THAT's funny!

Miriam <delmelza@yahoo. com> wrote:

To me the best bit from the 1st "live" Clue was that on the buzzer
system they still had the panelist's names from JAM on them! Miriam


 
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Topic: Will we ever see a "live" JAM CD set

Message 11 / 18
Clitheroe KidMay 31, 2008
 
 
You may be able to find through uTorrent ( http://www.utorrent.com ) some
material from ISIHAC which includes a recording, listed as "ISIHAC Extras",
made by a member of the audience at a recording session in Wolverhampton in
2001.

The sound quality is not great, but it includes all the material which
didn't get included in the broadcast versions of the two editions that were
recorded on that occasion.

As to charging for seats to hear a radio recording, the BBC make no charge
for admission. So if you go to a recording at the Radio Theatre in
Broadcasting House, London the tickets are free.

If the recording is in a commercial theatre outside London, a small charge
of £5 per seat ($10 US) is made by the theatre to cover its costs, in
addition to the fee it charges the BBC for hire of the theatre for the day.


----- Original Message -----
From: "linda" <irishmanufan@...>
To: <just-a-minute@...>
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 10:33 AM
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: Will we ever see a "live" JAM cd set


> --- In just-a-minute@..., Dean Bedford <dbedford@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Friday, May 30, 2008, at 01:13 PM, Miriam wrote:
> >
> > > I see that Clue has released another one. Miriam
> >
> > what do you mean by a live CD?
>
> i am surprised you have not heard of them dean . they rock ! bascially
> it is a less edited version of an isihac recording , mistakes and all.
> they even have some of jon naismiths warm up ! if you have i tunes look
> up the first live cd there . you can get it through audible .com .it is
> worth investing in
>
> if you want to buy it from amazon here is the link to amazon.co.uk
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Im-Sorry-Havent-Clue-
> Live/dp/1846070538/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1212139349&sr=8-4
>
> the i'm sorry i haven't a clue second live cd is not due out until 10th
> july according to amazon.co.uk . here is the link :
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sorry-Havent-Clue-Live
> Collection/dp/140568836X/ref=sr_1_13?
> ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1212139349&sr=8-13
>
> you may have to cut and paste this as the group message page seems to
> have no html function where you can programe in a link , the same with
> the second link too !
>
> there is also a new version of the uxbridge english dictionary out now
> and coming out later in the year a hamish and dougal script book and
> something called Lyttelton's Britain: Humphrey Lyttelton's Gazetter of
> the British Isles
>
> sorry about sounding like an infomercial !
>
> cheers
> Linda

 
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Topic: Re: Will we ever see a "live" JAM CD set

Message 12 / 18
Dean BedfordMay 31, 2008
 
 
On Sunday, June 1, 2008, at 06:42 AM, Clitheroe Kid wrote:

>
> As to charging for seats to hear a radio recording, the BBC make no
> charge
> for admission. So if you go to a recording at the Radio Theatre in
> Broadcasting House, London the tickets are free.
>
> If the recording is in a commercial theatre outside London, a small
> charge
> of £5 per seat ($10 US) is made by the theatre to cover its costs, in
> addition to the fee it charges the BBC for hire of the theatre for the
> day.

In general, quite right, but I wasn't charged at the Edinburgh recording
I attended, which was widely advertised as one of the few free events
that you could see during the Festival. I guess it's on a venue-by-venue
basis outside Broadcasting House.
 
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Topic: Re: Will we ever see a "live" JAM CD set

Message 13 / 18
CatMay 31, 2008
 
 
I don't at all mind paying £5 for an evening's entertainment. Nothing
else in the city will be as good value for money!

It makes sense that if they do have to hire venues they may need to
impose a charge in order to offset the extra costs

Just one thought though: Is there a particular reason they don't use
the Manchester BBC studios on Oxford Rd? Perhaps they're not suitable
(I don't know, I've never been), but maybe this will change with the
new MediaCity in Salford. If they come back again that is!

--- In just-a-minute@..., Dean Bedford <dbedford@...> wrote:
>
>
> On Sunday, June 1, 2008, at 06:42 AM, Clitheroe Kid wrote:
>
> >
> > As to charging for seats to hear a radio recording, the BBC make no
> > charge
> > for admission. So if you go to a recording at the Radio Theatre in
> > Broadcasting House, London the tickets are free.
> >
> > If the recording is in a commercial theatre outside London, a small
> > charge
> > of £5 per seat ($10 US) is made by the theatre to cover its costs, in
> > addition to the fee it charges the BBC for hire of the theatre for
the
> > day.
>
> In general, quite right, but I wasn't charged at the Edinburgh
recording
> I attended, which was widely advertised as one of the few free events
> that you could see during the Festival. I guess it's on a
venue-by-venue
> basis outside Broadcasting House.
>

 
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Topic: Re: Will we ever see a "live" JAM CD set

Message 14 / 18
kj.naughtonJun 1, 2008
 
 
--- In just-a-minute@..., "Cat" <camc_84@...> wrote:
>
> Just one thought though: Is there a particular reason they don't use
> the Manchester BBC studios on Oxford Rd? Perhaps they're not suitable
> (I don't know, I've never been), but maybe this will change with the
> new MediaCity in Salford. If they come back again that is!

I think the problem is one of capacity. The Radio Theatre in
Broadcasting House in London can hold 310 people whereas if it were to
be held in (say) New Broadcasting House in Manchester then it would
have to be held in TV studio where the capacity is nearer 100 as NBHM
doesn't have a radio theatre.

When I saw ISIHAC recorded at the Manchester Opera House, the capacity
was 1,920. Put simply, lots more people could be at a recording in a
theatre. WHich is clearly better for the fan base and arguably
produces a better "atmosphere" for the recording itself.

It's noticeable that not even all of the London recordings are done in
the Radio Theatre and several have been at other theatres, for example
the Mermaid.

MediaCity:UK at Salford does include theatre and event spaces so it is
possible that free shows will be coming to the Manchester area.
However given that MediaCity isn't owned by the BBC the likelihood
must be that they'll also be chargeable as the BBC would probably have
to pay the landlords for use of the theatre.
 
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Topic: Re: Will we ever see a "live" JAM CD set

Message 15 / 18
lindaJun 1, 2008
 
 
--- In just-a-minute@..., "Clitheroe Kid"
<clitheroekid@...> wrote:
>
> You may be able to find through uTorrent ( http://www.utorrent.com )
some
> material from ISIHAC which includes a recording, listed as "ISIHAC
Extras",
> made by a member of the audience at a recording session in
Wolverhampton in
> 2001.
>
> The sound quality is not great, but it includes all the material which
> didn't get included in the broadcast versions of the two editions
that were
> recorded on that occasion.

i downloaded it fomr uk nova . very interesting too .
cheers
Linda
 
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Topic: Re: Will we ever see a "live" JAM CD set

Message 16 / 18
CatJun 1, 2008
 
 
Really, I had no idea that it was that small. That does make sense to
house it in a larger theatre when presumably the reason they started
taking it outside of London was to allow more people access to recordings.

I don't mind, I work on Quay Street anyway, so it's just a stagger
down the street for me after work!



> I think the problem is one of capacity. The Radio Theatre in
> Broadcasting House in London can hold 310 people whereas if it were to
> be held in (say) New Broadcasting House in Manchester then it would
> have to be held in TV studio where the capacity is nearer 100 as NBHM
> doesn't have a radio theatre.
>
> When I saw ISIHAC recorded at the Manchester Opera House, the capacity
> was 1,920. Put simply, lots more people could be at a recording in a
> theatre. WHich is clearly better for the fan base and arguably
> produces a better "atmosphere" for the recording itself.
>
> It's noticeable that not even all of the London recordings are done in
> the Radio Theatre and several have been at other theatres, for example
> the Mermaid.
>
> MediaCity:UK at Salford does include theatre and event spaces so it is
> possible that free shows will be coming to the Manchester area.
> However given that MediaCity isn't owned by the BBC the likelihood
> must be that they'll also be chargeable as the BBC would probably have
> to pay the landlords for use of the theatre.
>

 
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Topic: Will we ever see a "live" JAM CD set

Message 17 / 18
Clitheroe KidJun 3, 2008
 
 
I have been to Broadcasting House at Oxford Road in Manchester. The studios
there are not equipped for audiences, so you could only record a
non-audience show.

In the old days, recordings which required a studio audience were done at
the Hulme Hippodrome, a converted variety theatre. Hulme is the part of the
city where Old Trafford football ground is located.

The Hulme Hipp was sold by the BBC in the 1980s. BBC Manchester no longer
have any in-house facilities for recording in front of an audience.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Cat" <camc_84@...>
To: <just-a-minute@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 11:21 PM
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: Will we ever see a "live" JAM cd set


I don't at all mind paying £5 for an evening's entertainment. Nothing
else in the city will be as good value for money!

It makes sense that if they do have to hire venues they may need to
impose a charge in order to offset the extra costs

Just one thought though: Is there a particular reason they don't use
the Manchester BBC studios on Oxford Rd? Perhaps they're not suitable
(I don't know, I've never been), but maybe this will change with the
new MediaCity in Salford. If they come back again that is!

--- In just-a-minute@..., Dean Bedford <dbedford@...> wrote:
>
>
> On Sunday, June 1, 2008, at 06:42 AM, Clitheroe Kid wrote:
>
> >
> > As to charging for seats to hear a radio recording, the BBC make no
> > charge
> > for admission. So if you go to a recording at the Radio Theatre in
> > Broadcasting House, London the tickets are free.
> >
> > If the recording is in a commercial theatre outside London, a small
> > charge
> > of £5 per seat ($10 US) is made by the theatre to cover its costs, in
> > addition to the fee it charges the BBC for hire of the theatre for
the
> > day.
>
> In general, quite right, but I wasn't charged at the Edinburgh
recording
> I attended, which was widely advertised as one of the few free events
> that you could see during the Festival. I guess it's on a
venue-by-venue
> basis outside Broadcasting House.
>



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Topic: Re: Will we ever see a "live" JAM CD set

Message 18 / 18
Clitheroe KidJun 3, 2008
 
 
Sorry, I forgot to mention the tiny television studio at BH Manchester.

It would obviously not be suitable. They used to get audiences of 800+ for
radio recordings at the Hulme Hippodrome in the 1970s, for shows produced by
James Casey or Mike Craig. And as you say, JAM can fill a 2,000-seater
theatre.

You might like to know that Mike Craig will be on BBC 7 this Saturday
morning, at 9am (repeated at 8pm), talking about the radio shows he made at
the Hulme Hippodrome in the '70s.

In London, BBC policy seems to be only to use the Radio Theatre at
Broadcasting House for shows such as "Quote Unquote", where the audience is
rather small. I've been to lunchtime recordings of that show where barely
half the seats were taken.

If the size of the audience justifies it, they hire a theatre or use the old
Drill Hall (where they do the recordings for the quiz "Brain of Britain"),
because otherwise they get problems with so many people having to be turned
down for tickets.


----- Original Message -----
From: "kj.naughton" <kj.naughton@...>
To: <just-a-minute@...>
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 11:48 AM
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: Will we ever see a "live" JAM cd set


> --- In just-a-minute@..., "Cat" <camc_84@...> wrote:
> >
> > Just one thought though: Is there a particular reason they don't use
> > the Manchester BBC studios on Oxford Rd? Perhaps they're not suitable
> > (I don't know, I've never been), but maybe this will change with the
> > new MediaCity in Salford. If they come back again that is!
>
> I think the problem is one of capacity. The Radio Theatre in
> Broadcasting House in London can hold 310 people whereas if it were to
> be held in (say) New Broadcasting House in Manchester then it would
> have to be held in TV studio where the capacity is nearer 100 as NBHM
> doesn't have a radio theatre.
>
> When I saw ISIHAC recorded at the Manchester Opera House, the capacity
> was 1,920. Put simply, lots more people could be at a recording in a
> theatre. WHich is clearly better for the fan base and arguably
> produces a better "atmosphere" for the recording itself.
>
> It's noticeable that not even all of the London recordings are done in
> the Radio Theatre and several have been at other theatres, for example
> the Mermaid.
>
> MediaCity:UK at Salford does include theatre and event spaces so it is
> possible that free shows will be coming to the Manchester area.
> However given that MediaCity isn't owned by the BBC the likelihood
> must be that they'll also be chargeable as the BBC would probably have
> to pay the landlords for use of the theatre.

 
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