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Topic: The New Breed of JAM Performers - Paul Merton

Message 1 / 13
Robert L. TorresJun 1, 2008
 
 
I'd like to take this time to begin a series of discussions regarding
the new generation of performers who have come on JAM and become a
core cast of regular performers much in a similar vein to the
Original Foursome.

Who better to start off with than the man who could be seen as the
one responsible for revitalizing the series after the death of
Kenneth Williams: Paul Merton.

Paul Merton was brought onto the show for two episodes in the 1989
season which came following the death of Kenneth Williams. His early
appearances had a more reserved Paul Merton trying his best to
contribute well amongst the more seasoned veterans, but he did manage
to display the very talents which have made him something of an icon
in British comedy.

I remember on one of his first appearances, he had been given the
subject of 'Bottle' and in spite of several slip ups, the subject
wasn't taken away from him. In addition, it was one of the first
examples of his off-the-cuff improv style when he talked about
someone jumping out of an airplane without a parachute, trying to get
back up to the plane, but didn't make it because he fell to the
ground at such speed, he was flattened as a pancake by the time he
hit the ground. And then says, 'And his wife later called his
condition as very satisfactory'. He then gets challenged by Derek
for deviation, saying 'What has this got to do with bottle?' and
Peter springs to Paul's defense, saying 'Well, it certainly takes
bottle to tell a story like that.'

Paul's style was unique and very different amongst those who had been
associated with JAM in the past, although Paul would occasionally
tell anecdotes about his life now and then, more often than not his
material was simply stuff he would think up off the top of his head,
which definitely showcased the depth of his intelligence and
creativity. Not to mention he became very adept at picking up on
other people's material and mining the comedy gold for all its
worth.

Very often the best stuff from Paul would come from his journey into
the surreal, and would very often be allowed to go off in this veing
well past the minute mark.

Paul eventually helped open the door for many of his contemporaries
to appear on the show, people like Tony Hawks, Graham Norton, Jenny
Eclair, Linda Smith, Julian Clary, and so on.

He was pretty much able to breathe much needed life into the series,
which by the time of Kenneth Williams' death, had begun to sound a
bit stale, in that some of the panelists tended be of an older
variety, and there didn't seem to be any attempt on Ed Taylor's part
to appeal to a younger audience.

With Paul in, Ed Taylor was soon out, and in came Sarah Smith, and
then Claire Jones, who would steer the show through the 90's on a
crest of comedy the likes of which no other radio panel show would
exhibit.

Amongst my other favorite bits of Paul's humor is the way he took up
the banner of making fun of Nicholas' age, and soon came up with all
sorts of things to use as ammunition: such as the notion of Nicholas
liking to dress up in women's clothing and go around the streets of
London like a prostitute, or the fact that Nicholas seems to have had
certain sexual dalliances with certain barnyard animals, or the idea
that Nicholas has had sexual dalliances with women three times
younger than he is.

Case in point I believe was during one particular show, I think the
whistle blower at the time was Elaine Wiggley. Anyway, Nicholas
stopped the show for a moment because Elaine was telling him
something, and just before Nicholas could start the next round, Paul
picks up on this and creates this idea that what Elaine was trying to
tell Nicholas was that she was pregnant, which remains one of my
favorite Paul Merton moments.

The first time I ever saw Paul Merton or even became aware of who he
was, was during his appearances on the original 'Whose Line is it
Anyway?'

He was excellent on that series, and displayed his improv skills
exceptionally well.

Amongst his other accomplishments that I am aware of include 'The
Masterson Inheritance' (perhaps one of the funniest shows, and an
excellent example of Paul's brand of comedy), and 'Have I Got News
For You'.

I seem to recall one of the funniest moments on the series came about
when both Paul and Ian spent most of the show making fun of Angus
Deayton for the tabloid reports of him being caught in some hotel
with drugs and prostitutes or something like that.

Paul has also appeared on I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue, although I'm
not sure what else he's done.

I'd like to open the floor now to anyone else who wishes to discuss
this exceptionally talented and funny individual.
 
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Topic: Re: The New Breed of JAM Performers - Paul Merton

Message 2 / 13
MiriamJun 1, 2008
 
 
-If it wasn't so late here I would gladly spend an hr talking about
Paul Merton-I am a Huge fan- have almost every video ( just need the
pantos) and have 2 dvds from amazon uk on order that are Paul Merton.

The Paul Merton Collection DVD will be released this week! (And
Someday they Will release the Paul In China travel dvd I've had on
Preorder for over 3 months now!)

Not to mention the books ( waiting for the silent comedy to go
paperback), the cassettes and cds ( JAM/ Clue / mastersons's/reading
his book/ jacknory/HIGNFY etc.
The last time I was in London ( I live in Seattle USA) my
friends took me to see Paul do the Improv stuff at the Comedy Store
for my birthday. I waited in line in the rain for Front Center seats.
I was in Heaven!--- Ok I really need to get to bed but I shall return
to sing more Praises to Mr Merton LOL. Miriam

-- In just-a-minute@..., "Robert L. Torres"
<bobbyshaddoe3004@...> wrote:
>
> I'd like to take this time to begin a series of discussions
regarding
> the new generation of performers who have come on JAM and become a
> core cast of regular performers much in a similar vein to the
> Original Foursome.
>
> Who better to start off with than the man who could be seen as the
> one responsible for revitalizing the series after the death of
> Kenneth Williams: Paul Merton.
>
> Paul Merton was brought onto the show for two episodes in the 1989
> season which came following the death of Kenneth Williams. His
early
> appearances had a more reserved Paul Merton trying his best to
> contribute well amongst the more seasoned veterans, but he did
manage
> to display the very talents which have made him something of an
icon
> in British comedy.
>
> I remember on one of his first appearances, he had been given the
> subject of 'Bottle' and in spite of several slip ups, the subject
> wasn't taken away from him. In addition, it was one of the first
> examples of his off-the-cuff improv style when he talked about
> someone jumping out of an airplane without a parachute, trying to
get
> back up to the plane, but didn't make it because he fell to the
> ground at such speed, he was flattened as a pancake by the time he
> hit the ground. And then says, 'And his wife later called his
> condition as very satisfactory'. He then gets challenged by Derek
> for deviation, saying 'What has this got to do with bottle?' and
> Peter springs to Paul's defense, saying 'Well, it certainly takes
> bottle to tell a story like that.'
>
> Paul's style was unique and very different amongst those who had
been
> associated with JAM in the past, although Paul would occasionally
> tell anecdotes about his life now and then, more often than not his
> material was simply stuff he would think up off the top of his
head,
> which definitely showcased the depth of his intelligence and
> creativity. Not to mention he became very adept at picking up on
> other people's material and mining the comedy gold for all its
> worth.
>
> Very often the best stuff from Paul would come from his journey
into
> the surreal, and would very often be allowed to go off in this
veing
> well past the minute mark.
>
> Paul eventually helped open the door for many of his contemporaries
> to appear on the show, people like Tony Hawks, Graham Norton, Jenny
> Eclair, Linda Smith, Julian Clary, and so on.
>
> He was pretty much able to breathe much needed life into the
series,
> which by the time of Kenneth Williams' death, had begun to sound a
> bit stale, in that some of the panelists tended be of an older
> variety, and there didn't seem to be any attempt on Ed Taylor's
part
> to appeal to a younger audience.
>
> With Paul in, Ed Taylor was soon out, and in came Sarah Smith, and
> then Claire Jones, who would steer the show through the 90's on a
> crest of comedy the likes of which no other radio panel show would
> exhibit.
>
> Amongst my other favorite bits of Paul's humor is the way he took
up
> the banner of making fun of Nicholas' age, and soon came up with
all
> sorts of things to use as ammunition: such as the notion of
Nicholas
> liking to dress up in women's clothing and go around the streets of
> London like a prostitute, or the fact that Nicholas seems to have
had
> certain sexual dalliances with certain barnyard animals, or the
idea
> that Nicholas has had sexual dalliances with women three times
> younger than he is.
>
> Case in point I believe was during one particular show, I think the
> whistle blower at the time was Elaine Wiggley. Anyway, Nicholas
> stopped the show for a moment because Elaine was telling him
> something, and just before Nicholas could start the next round,
Paul
> picks up on this and creates this idea that what Elaine was trying
to
> tell Nicholas was that she was pregnant, which remains one of my
> favorite Paul Merton moments.
>
> The first time I ever saw Paul Merton or even became aware of who
he
> was, was during his appearances on the original 'Whose Line is it
> Anyway?'
>
> He was excellent on that series, and displayed his improv skills
> exceptionally well.
>
> Amongst his other accomplishments that I am aware of include 'The
> Masterson Inheritance' (perhaps one of the funniest shows, and an
> excellent example of Paul's brand of comedy), and 'Have I Got News
> For You'.
>
> I seem to recall one of the funniest moments on the series came
about
> when both Paul and Ian spent most of the show making fun of Angus
> Deayton for the tabloid reports of him being caught in some hotel
> with drugs and prostitutes or something like that.
>
> Paul has also appeared on I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue, although I'm
> not sure what else he's done.
>
> I'd like to open the floor now to anyone else who wishes to discuss
> this exceptionally talented and funny individual.
>

 
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Topic: Re: The New Breed of JAM Performers - Paul Merton

Message 3 / 13
Paul WimsettJun 2, 2008
 
 
It's wierd that we think of him as member of the new breed-his first
time on the show was in 1989!

--- In just-a-minute@..., "Miriam" <delmelza@...> wrote:
>
> -If it wasn't so late here I would gladly spend an hr talking about
> Paul Merton-I am a Huge fan- have almost every video ( just need
the
> pantos) and have 2 dvds from amazon uk on order that are Paul
Merton.
>
> The Paul Merton Collection DVD will be released this week! (And
> Someday they Will release the Paul In China travel dvd I've had on
> Preorder for over 3 months now!)
>
> Not to mention the books ( waiting for the silent comedy to go
> paperback), the cassettes and cds ( JAM/ Clue /
mastersons's/reading
> his book/ jacknory/HIGNFY etc.
> The last time I was in London ( I live in Seattle USA) my
> friends took me to see Paul do the Improv stuff at the Comedy Store
> for my birthday. I waited in line in the rain for Front Center
seats.
> I was in Heaven!--- Ok I really need to get to bed but I shall
return
> to sing more Praises to Mr Merton LOL. Miriam
>
> -- In just-a-minute@..., "Robert L. Torres"
> <bobbyshaddoe3004@> wrote:
> >
> > I'd like to take this time to begin a series of discussions
> regarding
> > the new generation of performers who have come on JAM and become
a
> > core cast of regular performers much in a similar vein to the
> > Original Foursome.
> >
> > Who better to start off with than the man who could be seen as
the
> > one responsible for revitalizing the series after the death of
> > Kenneth Williams: Paul Merton.
> >
> > Paul Merton was brought onto the show for two episodes in the
1989
> > season which came following the death of Kenneth Williams. His
> early
> > appearances had a more reserved Paul Merton trying his best to
> > contribute well amongst the more seasoned veterans, but he did
> manage
> > to display the very talents which have made him something of an
> icon
> > in British comedy.
> >
> > I remember on one of his first appearances, he had been given the
> > subject of 'Bottle' and in spite of several slip ups, the subject
> > wasn't taken away from him. In addition, it was one of the first
> > examples of his off-the-cuff improv style when he talked about
> > someone jumping out of an airplane without a parachute, trying to
> get
> > back up to the plane, but didn't make it because he fell to the
> > ground at such speed, he was flattened as a pancake by the time
he
> > hit the ground. And then says, 'And his wife later called his
> > condition as very satisfactory'. He then gets challenged by
Derek
> > for deviation, saying 'What has this got to do with bottle?' and
> > Peter springs to Paul's defense, saying 'Well, it certainly takes
> > bottle to tell a story like that.'
> >
> > Paul's style was unique and very different amongst those who had
> been
> > associated with JAM in the past, although Paul would occasionally
> > tell anecdotes about his life now and then, more often than not
his
> > material was simply stuff he would think up off the top of his
> head,
> > which definitely showcased the depth of his intelligence and
> > creativity. Not to mention he became very adept at picking up on
> > other people's material and mining the comedy gold for all its
> > worth.
> >
> > Very often the best stuff from Paul would come from his journey
> into
> > the surreal, and would very often be allowed to go off in this
> veing
> > well past the minute mark.
> >
> > Paul eventually helped open the door for many of his
contemporaries
> > to appear on the show, people like Tony Hawks, Graham Norton,
Jenny
> > Eclair, Linda Smith, Julian Clary, and so on.
> >
> > He was pretty much able to breathe much needed life into the
> series,
> > which by the time of Kenneth Williams' death, had begun to sound
a
> > bit stale, in that some of the panelists tended be of an older
> > variety, and there didn't seem to be any attempt on Ed Taylor's
> part
> > to appeal to a younger audience.
> >
> > With Paul in, Ed Taylor was soon out, and in came Sarah Smith,
and
> > then Claire Jones, who would steer the show through the 90's on a
> > crest of comedy the likes of which no other radio panel show
would
> > exhibit.
> >
> > Amongst my other favorite bits of Paul's humor is the way he took
> up
> > the banner of making fun of Nicholas' age, and soon came up with
> all
> > sorts of things to use as ammunition: such as the notion of
> Nicholas
> > liking to dress up in women's clothing and go around the streets
of
> > London like a prostitute, or the fact that Nicholas seems to have
> had
> > certain sexual dalliances with certain barnyard animals, or the
> idea
> > that Nicholas has had sexual dalliances with women three times
> > younger than he is.
> >
> > Case in point I believe was during one particular show, I think
the
> > whistle blower at the time was Elaine Wiggley. Anyway, Nicholas
> > stopped the show for a moment because Elaine was telling him
> > something, and just before Nicholas could start the next round,
> Paul
> > picks up on this and creates this idea that what Elaine was
trying
> to
> > tell Nicholas was that she was pregnant, which remains one of my
> > favorite Paul Merton moments.
> >
> > The first time I ever saw Paul Merton or even became aware of who
> he
> > was, was during his appearances on the original 'Whose Line is it
> > Anyway?'
> >
> > He was excellent on that series, and displayed his improv skills
> > exceptionally well.
> >
> > Amongst his other accomplishments that I am aware of include 'The
> > Masterson Inheritance' (perhaps one of the funniest shows, and an
> > excellent example of Paul's brand of comedy), and 'Have I Got
News
> > For You'.
> >
> > I seem to recall one of the funniest moments on the series came
> about
> > when both Paul and Ian spent most of the show making fun of Angus
> > Deayton for the tabloid reports of him being caught in some hotel
> > with drugs and prostitutes or something like that.
> >
> > Paul has also appeared on I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue, although
I'm
> > not sure what else he's done.
> >
> > I'd like to open the floor now to anyone else who wishes to
discuss
> > this exceptionally talented and funny individual.
> >
>

 
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Topic: Re: The New Breed of JAM Performers - Paul Merton

Message 4 / 13
Robert TorresJun 2, 2008
 
 
It is weird, but in a way its true.  He may be well established on the show now, but it's not like he was there from the beginning like Clement or Nicholas. 

Paul Wimsett <plwimsett@...> wrote:
It's wierd that we think of him as member of the new breed-his first
time on the show was in 1989!

--- In just-a-minute@ yahoogroups. com, "Miriam" <delmelza@.. .> wrote:
>
> -If it wasn't so late here I would gladly spend an hr talking about
> Paul Merton-I am a Huge fan- have almost every video ( just need
the
> pantos) and have 2 dvds from amazon uk on order that are Paul
Merton.
>
> The Paul Merton Collection DVD will be released this week! (And
> Someday they Will release the Paul In China travel dvd I've had on
> Preorder for over 3 months now!)
>
> Not to mention the books ( waiting for the silent comedy to go
> paperback), the cassettes and cds ( JAM/ Clue /
mastersons's/ reading
> his book/ jacknory/HIGNFY etc.
> The last time I was in London ( I live in Seattle USA) my
> friends took me to see Paul do the Improv stuff at the Comedy Store
> for my birthday. I waited in line in the rain for Front Center
seats.
> I was in Heaven!--- Ok I really need to get to bed but I shall
return
> to sing more Praises to Mr Merton LOL. Miriam
>
> -- In just-a-minute@ yahoogroups. com, "Robert L. Torres"
> <bobbyshaddoe3004@ > wrote:
> >
> > I'd like to take this time to begin a series of discussions
> regarding
> > the new generation of performers who have come on JAM and become
a
> > core cast of regular performers much in a similar vein to the
> > Original Foursome.
> >
> > Who better to start off with than the man who could be seen as
the
> > one responsible for revitalizing the series after the death of
> > Kenneth Williams: Paul Merton.
> >
> > Paul Merton was brought onto the show for two episodes in the
1989
> > season which came following the death of Kenneth Williams. His
> early
> > appearances had a more reserved Paul Merton trying his best to
> > contribute well amongst the more seasoned veterans, but he did
> manage
> > to display the very talents which have made him something of an
> icon
> > in British comedy.
> >
> > I remember on one of his first appearances, he had been given the
> > subject of 'Bottle' and in spite of several slip ups, the subject
> > wasn't taken away from him. In addition, it was one of the first
> > examples of his off-the-cuff improv style when he talked about
> > someone jumping out of an airplane without a parachute, trying to
> get
> > back up to the plane, but didn't make it because he fell to the
> > ground at such speed, he was flattened as a pancake by the time
he
> > hit the ground. And then says, 'And his wife later called his
> > condition as very satisfactory' . He then gets challenged by
Derek
> > for deviation, saying 'What has this got to do with bottle?' and
> > Peter springs to Paul's defense, saying 'Well, it certainly takes
> > bottle to tell a story like that.'
> >
> > Paul's style was unique and very different amongst those who had
> been
> > associated with JAM in the past, although Paul would occasionally
> > tell anecdotes about his life now and then, more often than not
his
> > material was simply stuff he would think up off the top of his
> head,
> > which definitely showcased the depth of his intelligence and
> > creativity. Not to mention he became very adept at picking up on
> > other people's material and mining the comedy gold for all its
> > worth.
> >
> > Very often the best stuff from Paul would come from his journey
> into
> > the surreal, and would very often be allowed to go off in this
> veing
> > well past the minute mark.
> >
> > Paul eventually helped open the door for many of his
contemporaries
> > to appear on the show, people like Tony Hawks, Graham Norton,
Jenny
> > Eclair, Linda Smith, Julian Clary, and so on.
> >
> > He was pretty much able to breathe much needed life into the
> series,
> > which by the time of Kenneth Williams' death, had begun to sound
a
> > bit stale, in that some of the panelists tended be of an older
> > variety, and there didn't seem to be any attempt on Ed Taylor's
> part
> > to appeal to a younger audience.
> >
> > With Paul in, Ed Taylor was soon out, and in came Sarah Smith,
and
> > then Claire Jones, who would steer the show through the 90's on a
> > crest of comedy the likes of which no other radio panel show
would
> > exhibit.
> >
> > Amongst my other favorite bits of Paul's humor is the way he took
> up
> > the banner of making fun of Nicholas' age, and soon came up with
> all
> > sorts of things to use as ammunition: such as the notion of
> Nicholas
> > liking to dress up in women's clothing and go around the streets
of
> > London like a prostitute, or the fact that Nicholas seems to have
> had
> > certain sexual dalliances with certain barnyard animals, or the
> idea
> > that Nicholas has had sexual dalliances with women three times
> > younger than he is.
> >
> > Case in point I believe was during one particular show, I think
the
> > whistle blower at the time was Elaine Wiggley. Anyway, Nicholas
> > stopped the show for a moment because Elaine was telling him
> > something, and just before Nicholas could start the next round,
> Paul
> > picks up on this and creates this idea that what Elaine was
trying
> to
> > tell Nicholas was that she was pregnant, which remains one of my
> > favorite Paul Merton moments.
> >
> > The first time I ever saw Paul Merton or even became aware of who
> he
> > was, was during his appearances on the original 'Whose Line is it
> > Anyway?'
> >
> > He was excellent on that series, and displayed his improv skills
> > exceptionally well.
> >
> > Amongst his other accomplishments that I am aware of include 'The
> > Masterson Inheritance' (perhaps one of the funniest shows, and an
> > excellent example of Paul's brand of comedy), and 'Have I Got
News
> > For You'.
> >
> > I seem to recall one of the funniest moments on the series came
> about
> > when both Paul and Ian spent most of the show making fun of Angus
> > Deayton for the tabloid reports of him being caught in some hotel
> > with drugs and prostitutes or something like that.
> >
> > Paul has also appeared on I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue, although
I'm
> > not sure what else he's done.
> >
> > I'd like to open the floor now to anyone else who wishes to
discuss
> > this exceptionally talented and funny individual.
> >
>



 
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Topic: Re: The New Breed of JAM Performers - Paul Merton

Message 5 / 13
MiriamJun 2, 2008
 
 
Ok I am more awake now- the first time I saw Paul was on Have I Got
News For You- our seattle Brit TV fans group started showing it at
least 15 yrs ago and even though it is very british in it's subject
matter the whole group liked the show from the start- ( it helps that
so many of us are Raving Anglophiles) even when we didn't know that
much about UK politics. Paul stood out first for his often Unuual
shirts and then for his deadpan delivery and his sometimes biting
Wit. We have also seen much of Room 101/the Galton & simpson plays

( yes I know some people Hate paul's version but I thought they were
alright-- And i do know some of tony handcocks works-I just took them
as someone who Loved and appreciated the Orginals and wanted to bring
the Works of G&S to a New audience---- ducking the rotten fruit being
thrown at me now----------------

I "discovered" JAM in the late 90's when a local radio station
started running BBC World Service overnight and I caught one in the
middle of the night- I reconized Paul's voice and kept on listening.
It was Love at first sight for me and JAM with or without Paul
playing the game.
Now having heard most all of Paul's appearances I can see how he
has progressed from the rather uncertain but keen fan/player to the
more confident skillfull player he has become. While I do love
his 'flights of fancy' I really like when he takes something and
makes a running joke or can't let something someone said go or some
decision by Nicholas that he doesn't like.
One last thing- one of the things I really like about Paul Merton
in general is his obivous affection for the Comedy of the Past- from
Buster Keaton to the 7o's comedy ( I recently rewatched while dubbing
onto a dvd disk the "paul merton's life of comedy") Miriam



--- In just-a-minute@..., "Robert L. Torres"
<bobbyshaddoe3004@...> wrote:
>
> I'd like to take this time to begin a series of discussions
regarding
> the new generation of performers who have come on JAM and become a
> core cast of regular performers much in a similar vein to the
> Original Foursome.
>
> Who better to start off with than the man who could be seen as the
> one responsible for revitalizing the series after the death of
> Kenneth Williams: Paul Merton.
>
> Paul Merton was brought onto the show for two episodes in the 1989
> season which came following the death of Kenneth Williams. His
early
> appearances had a more reserved Paul Merton trying his best to
> contribute well amongst the more seasoned veterans, but he did
manage
> to display the very talents which have made him something of an
icon
> in British comedy.
>
> I remember on one of his first appearances, he had been given the
> subject of 'Bottle' and in spite of several slip ups, the subject
> wasn't taken away from him. In addition, it was one of the first
> examples of his off-the-cuff improv style when he talked about
> someone jumping out of an airplane without a parachute, trying to
get
> back up to the plane, but didn't make it because he fell to the
> ground at such speed, he was flattened as a pancake by the time he
> hit the ground. And then says, 'And his wife later called his
> condition as very satisfactory'. He then gets challenged by Derek
> for deviation, saying 'What has this got to do with bottle?' and
> Peter springs to Paul's defense, saying 'Well, it certainly takes
> bottle to tell a story like that.'
>
> Paul's style was unique and very different amongst those who had
been
> associated with JAM in the past, although Paul would occasionally
> tell anecdotes about his life now and then, more often than not his
> material was simply stuff he would think up off the top of his
head,
> which definitely showcased the depth of his intelligence and
> creativity. Not to mention he became very adept at picking up on
> other people's material and mining the comedy gold for all its
> worth.
>
> Very often the best stuff from Paul would come from his journey
into
> the surreal, and would very often be allowed to go off in this
veing
> well past the minute mark.
>
> Paul eventually helped open the door for many of his contemporaries
> to appear on the show, people like Tony Hawks, Graham Norton, Jenny
> Eclair, Linda Smith, Julian Clary, and so on.
>
> He was pretty much able to breathe much needed life into the
series,
> which by the time of Kenneth Williams' death, had begun to sound a
> bit stale, in that some of the panelists tended be of an older
> variety, and there didn't seem to be any attempt on Ed Taylor's
part
> to appeal to a younger audience.
>
> With Paul in, Ed Taylor was soon out, and in came Sarah Smith, and
> then Claire Jones, who would steer the show through the 90's on a
> crest of comedy the likes of which no other radio panel show would
> exhibit.
>
> Amongst my other favorite bits of Paul's humor is the way he took
up
> the banner of making fun of Nicholas' age, and soon came up with
all
> sorts of things to use as ammunition: such as the notion of
Nicholas
> liking to dress up in women's clothing and go around the streets of
> London like a prostitute, or the fact that Nicholas seems to have
had
> certain sexual dalliances with certain barnyard animals, or the
idea
> that Nicholas has had sexual dalliances with women three times
> younger than he is.
>
> Case in point I believe was during one particular show, I think the
> whistle blower at the time was Elaine Wiggley. Anyway, Nicholas
> stopped the show for a moment because Elaine was telling him
> something, and just before Nicholas could start the next round,
Paul
> picks up on this and creates this idea that what Elaine was trying
to
> tell Nicholas was that she was pregnant, which remains one of my
> favorite Paul Merton moments.
>
> The first time I ever saw Paul Merton or even became aware of who
he
> was, was during his appearances on the original 'Whose Line is it
> Anyway?'
>
> He was excellent on that series, and displayed his improv skills
> exceptionally well.
>
> Amongst his other accomplishments that I am aware of include 'The
> Masterson Inheritance' (perhaps one of the funniest shows, and an
> excellent example of Paul's brand of comedy), and 'Have I Got News
> For You'.
>
> I seem to recall one of the funniest moments on the series came
about
> when both Paul and Ian spent most of the show making fun of Angus
> Deayton for the tabloid reports of him being caught in some hotel
> with drugs and prostitutes or something like that.
>
> Paul has also appeared on I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue, although I'm
> not sure what else he's done.
>
> I'd like to open the floor now to anyone else who wishes to discuss
> this exceptionally talented and funny individual.
>

 
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Topic: Re: The New Breed of JAM Performers - Paul Merton

Message 6 / 13
CatJun 2, 2008
 
 
I don't remember him being on Whose Line when I first watched it, I
was too young. I mainly knew him through Have I Got News For You and
Room 101 (although when I bought the Galton & Simpsons DVD I realised
that some of the sketches I'd committed to distant memory were
actually him, I just hadn't made the connection). Funny what you
remember as a child. For years I wondered who had done the 'Burt
Reynolds' sketch...

The first time I heard Just A Minute on the radio was about 18mths
ago, and I had just seen Greg Proops perform with the Comedy Store
Players, and I found the show online with him on. I thought it was
funny so immediately bought a couple of CDs (best of 2005 and 2006)
and the first one I listened to had the 'herbaceous borders' bit with
Linda Smith. After replaying it all day I moved on to other episodes
and haven't looked back since, largely in thanks to this group.

He has brought about a different way of playing the game, with players
often confused as to whether they can lie or not, or whether it
constitutes deviation. He always seems to confuse Nicholas too, which
amuses me no end. Bless!

One of my favourite examples of how Paul manipulates the game is the
Mavis Drinkwater/Hilda Biscuit bit where Stephen Fry buzzes as he's
convinced it's a lie....But Nicholas says he cannot prove it. Then
when Stephen takes up the story, Paul buzzes as it's false.

He's very clever, as much as he likes to pretend otherwise, and the
breadth of his knowledge of comedy means he can pretty much go
anywhere he likes with a story, any style, any situation. Anyone who
tries to go up against him pretty much finds out that he can turn
their weapon against them, so to speak.

But I think the best thing about him on Just A Minute is that he
obviously is a fan of the show, and enjoys it. Much like when you se
him on Sundays down in the Comedy Store. People can throw money at him
for touring China and presenting dodgy impro shows, but it seems that
some things he does purely for the fun.

(sorry for going on a bit!)
 
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Topic: Re: The New Breed of JAM Performers - Paul Merton

Message 7 / 13
Anthony HobsonJun 2, 2008
 
 

Paul was at the Liverpool Comedy Festival last night with his Impro Chums – Lee Simpson, Suki Webster (Paul’s partner, just to note), Richard Vranch and special guest Mike McShane (for the recently retired Jim Sweeney). Wish I’d gone to that show…

 

Ant

 


From: just-a-minute@... [mailto: just-a-minute@... ] On Behalf Of Cat
Sent: 02 June 2008 20:05
To: just-a-minute@...
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: The New Breed of JAM Performers - Paul Merton

 

I don't remember him being on Whose Line when I first watched it, I
was too young. I mainly knew him through Have I Got News For You and
Room 101 (although when I bought the Galton & Simpsons DVD I realised
that some of the sketches I'd committed to distant memory were
actually him, I just hadn't made the connection). Funny what you
remember as a child. For years I wondered who had done the 'Burt
Reynolds' sketch...

The first time I heard Just A Minute on the radio was about 18mths
ago, and I had just seen Greg Proops perform with the Comedy Store
Players, and I found the show online with him on. I thought it was
funny so immediately bought a couple of CDs (best of 2005 and 2006)
and the first one I listened to had the 'herbaceous borders' bit with
Linda Smith. After replaying it all day I moved on to other episodes
and haven't looked back since, largely in thanks to this group.

He has brought about a different way of playing the game, with players
often confused as to whether they can lie or not, or whether it
constitutes deviation. He always seems to confuse Nicholas too, which
amuses me no end. Bless!

One of my favourite examples of how Paul manipulates the game is the
Mavis Drinkwater/Hilda Biscuit bit where Stephen Fry buzzes as he's
convinced it's a lie....But Nicholas says he cannot prove it. Then
when Stephen takes up the story, Paul buzzes as it's false.

He's very clever, as much as he likes to pretend otherwise, and the
breadth of his knowledge of comedy means he can pretty much go
anywhere he likes with a story, any style, any situation. Anyone who
tries to go up against him pretty much finds out that he can turn
their weapon against them, so to speak.

But I think the best thing about him on Just A Minute is that he
obviously is a fan of the show, and enjoys it. Much like when you se
him on Sundays down in the Comedy Store. People can throw money at him
for touring China and presenting dodgy impro shows, but it seems that
some things he does purely for the fun.

(sorry for going on a bit!)


 
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Topic: Re: The New Breed of JAM Performers - Paul Merton

Message 8 / 13
Dean BedfordJun 3, 2008
 
 
no harm in going on a bit - I enjoyed reading that.

I keep meaning to write my own Paul tribute.... he's a brilliant man, no
doubt and I'm beginning to think he's even better than Kenneth!! Paul
has totally changed the whole style of the programme too - it's arguable
no-one has had a greater impact on the show.




On Tuesday, June 3, 2008, at 07:04 AM, Cat wrote:

> I don't remember him being on Whose Line when I first watched it, I
> was too young. I mainly knew him through Have I Got News For You and
> Room 101 (although when I bought the Galton & Simpsons DVD I realised
> that some of the sketches I'd committed to distant memory were
> actually him, I just hadn't made the connection). Funny what you
> remember as a child. For years I wondered who had done the 'Burt
> Reynolds' sketch...
>
> The first time I heard Just A Minute on the radio was about 18mths
> ago, and I had just seen Greg Proops perform with the Comedy Store
> Players, and I found the show online with him on. I thought it was
> funny so immediately bought a couple of CDs (best of 2005 and 2006)
> and the first one I listened to had the 'herbaceous borders' bit with
> Linda Smith. After replaying it all day I moved on to other episodes
> and haven't looked back since, largely in thanks to this group.
>
> He has brought about a different way of playing the game, with players
> often confused as to whether they can lie or not, or whether it
> constitutes deviation. He always seems to confuse Nicholas too, which
> amuses me no end. Bless!
>
> One of my favourite examples of how Paul manipulates the game is the
> Mavis Drinkwater/Hilda Biscuit bit where Stephen Fry buzzes as he's
> convinced it's a lie....But Nicholas says he cannot prove it. Then
> when Stephen takes up the story, Paul buzzes as it's false.
>
> He's very clever, as much as he likes to pretend otherwise, and the
> breadth of his knowledge of comedy means he can pretty much go
> anywhere he likes with a story, any style, any situation. Anyone who
> tries to go up against him pretty much finds out that he can turn
> their weapon against them, so to speak.
>
> But I think the best thing about him on Just A Minute is that he
> obviously is a fan of the show, and enjoys it. Much like when you se
> him on Sundays down in the Comedy Store. People can throw money at him
> for touring China and presenting dodgy impro shows, but it seems that
> some things he does purely for the fun.
>
> (sorry for going on a bit!)
>
>

 
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Topic: Re: The New Breed of JAM Performers - Paul Merton

Message 9 / 13
Robert TorresJun 4, 2008
 
 
Tis true.  Arguably its a lot funnier and less serious, but he's also taken a lot of drama and tension out of the show in some respects, depending of course on the panelists that appears.  I mean, no one argues over points anymore, although there are moments, but more often than not, everything seems to be a joke, bonus points are handed out willy nilly regardless of whether someone actually said anything particularly clever, humorous or inventive, everyone gets so muddled that no one knows anymore whether a person said a word twice or not, people tend to acquiesce to the decisionmaking without a fight.
 
I miss that, because the arguments and the way people would get very angry and passionate was just as funny.  I'm not sure I'm all that keen on everyone playing nice when they slip up. 
 
granted, Paul's influence certainly opened doors for all sorts of convoluted types of challenges from other panelists.  And not to mention Paul is now without a doubt the master of the one-lined joke challenge.  He obviously learned that from Peter Jones, who introduced that concept during his time as a panelist.
 
 


Dean Bedford <dbedford@...> wrote:
no harm in going on a bit - I enjoyed reading that.

I keep meaning to write my own Paul tribute.... he's a brilliant man, no
doubt and I'm beginning to think he's even better than Kenneth!! Paul
has totally changed the whole style of the programme too - it's arguable
no-one has had a greater impact on the show.




On Tuesday, June 3, 2008, at 07:04 AM, Cat wrote:

> I don't remember him being on Whose Line when I first watched it, I
> was too young. I mainly knew him through Have I Got News For You and
> Room 101 (although when I bought the Galton & Simpsons DVD I realised
> that some of the sketches I'd committed to distant memory were
> actually him, I just hadn't made the connection). Funny what you
> remember as a child. For years I wondered who had done the 'Burt
> Reynolds' sketch...
>
> The first time I heard Just A Minute on the radio was about 18mths
> ago, and I had just seen Greg Proops perform with the Comedy Store
> Players, and I found the show online with him on. I thought it was
> funny so immediately bought a couple of CDs (best of 2005 and 2006)
> and the first one I listened to had the 'herbaceous borders' bit with
> Linda Smith. After replaying it all day I moved on to other episodes
> and haven't looked back since, largely in thanks to this group.
>
> He has brought about a different way of playing the game, with players
> often confused as to whether they can lie or not, or whether it
> constitutes deviation. He always seems to confuse Nicholas too, which
> amuses me no end. Bless!
>
> One of my favourite examples of how Paul manipulates the game is the
> Mavis Drinkwater/Hilda Biscuit bit where Stephen Fry buzzes as he's
> convinced it's a lie....But Nicholas says he cannot prove it. Then
> when Stephen takes up the story, Paul buzzes as it's false.
>
> He's very clever, as much as he likes to pretend otherwise, and the
> breadth of his knowledge of comedy means he can pretty much go
> anywhere he likes with a story, any style, any situation. Anyone who
> tries to go up against him pretty much finds out that he can turn
> their weapon against them, so to speak.
>
> But I think the best thing about him on Just A Minute is that he
> obviously is a fan of the show, and enjoys it. Much like when you se
> him on Sundays down in the Comedy Store. People can throw money at him
> for touring China and presenting dodgy impro shows, but it seems that
> some things he does purely for the fun.
>
> (sorry for going on a bit!)
>
>


 
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Topic: Re: The New Breed of JAM Performers - Paul Merton

Message 10 / 13
lindaJun 5, 2008
 
 
i wonder am i missing the point robert i always thought j.a.m was meant
to be a comedy show .
cheers
Linda


--- In just-a-minute@..., Robert Torres
<bobbyshaddoe3004@...> wrote:
>
> Tis true. Arguably its a lot funnier and less serious, but he's also
taken a lot of drama and tension out of the show in some respects,
depending of course on the panelists that appears. I mean, no one
argues over points anymore, although there are moments, but more often
than not, everything seems to be a joke, bonus points are handed out
willy nilly regardless of whether someone actually said anything
particularly clever, humorous or inventive, everyone gets so muddled
that no one knows anymore whether a person said a word twice or not,
people tend to acquiesce to the decisionmaking without a fight.
 
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Topic: Re: The New Breed of JAM Performers - Paul Merton

Message 11 / 13
Dean BedfordJun 5, 2008
 
 
What I meant Paul changed was the style of humour - his surrealistic
fantasy style has been copied by most of the other young performers,
when before him the style of humour was more anecdotal. I don't agree
JAM was more serious before him - it's just a different style of comedy.
Like Linda, I don't think JAM has ever been serious. I don't really
agree there are fewer arguments than there used to be either. But then I
don't find the ins and outs of points and challenges and rulings as
interesting as you do so maybe I'm just more focussed on the comedy.



On Thursday, June 5, 2008, at 05:22 AM, Robert Torres wrote:

> Tis true.  Arguably its a lot funnier and less serious, but he's also
> taken a lot of drama and tension out of the show in some respects,
> depending of course on the panelists that appears.  I mean, no one
> argues over points anymore, although there are moments, but more often
> than not, everything seems to be a joke, bonus points are handed out
> willy nilly regardless of whether someone actually said anything
> particularly clever, humorous or inventive, everyone gets so muddled
> that no one knows anymore whether a person said a word twice or not,
> people tend to acquiesce to the decisionmaking without a fight.
>  
> I miss that, because the arguments and the way people would get very
> angry and passionate was just as funny.  I'm not sure I'm all that keen
> on everyone playing nice when they slip up. 
>  
> granted, Paul's influence certainly opened doors for all sorts of
> convoluted types of challenges from other panelists.  And not to
> mention Paul is now without a doubt the master of the one-lined joke
> challenge.  He obviously learned that from Peter Jones, who introduced
> that concept during his time as a panelist.
>  
>  
>
>
> Dean Bedford <dbedford@...> wrote:
>
> no harm in going on a bit - I enjoyed reading that.
>
> I keep meaning to write my own Paul tribute.... he's a brilliant man, no
> doubt and I'm beginning to think he's even better than Kenneth!! Paul
> has totally changed the whole style of the programme too - it's arguable
> no-one has had a greater impact on the show.
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 3, 2008, at 07:04 AM, Cat wrote:
>
> > I don't remember him being on Whose Line when I first watched it, I
> > was too young. I mainly knew him through Have I Got News For You and
> > Room 101 (although when I bought the Galton & Simpsons DVD I realised
> > that some of the sketches I'd committed to distant memory were
> > actually him, I just hadn't made the connection). Funny what you
> > remember as a child. For years I wondered who had done the 'Burt
> > Reynolds' sketch...
> >
> > The first time I heard Just A Minute on the radio was about 18mths
> > ago, and I had just seen Greg Proops perform with the Comedy Store
> > Players, and I found the show online with him on. I thought it was
> > funny so immediately bought a couple of CDs (best of 2005 and 2006)
> > and the first one I listened to had the 'herbaceous borders' bit with
> > Linda Smith. After replaying it all day I moved on to other episodes
> > and haven't looked back since, largely in thanks to this group.
> >
> > He has brought about a different way of playing the game, with players
> > often confused as to whether they can lie or not, or whether it
> > constitutes deviation. He always seems to confuse Nicholas too, which
> > amuses me no end. Bless!
> >
> > One of my favourite examples of how Paul manipulates the game is the
> > Mavis Drinkwater/Hilda Biscuit bit where Stephen Fry buzzes as he's
> > convinced it's a lie....But Nicholas says he cannot prove it. Then
> > when Stephen takes up the story, Paul buzzes as it's false.
> >
> > He's very clever, as much as he likes to pretend otherwise, and the
> > breadth of his knowledge of comedy means he can pretty much go
> > anywhere he likes with a story, any style, any situation. Anyone who
> > tries to go up against him pretty much finds out that he can turn
> > their weapon against them, so to speak.
> >
> > But I think the best thing about him on Just A Minute is that he
> > obviously is a fan of the show, and enjoys it. Much like when you se
> > him on Sundays down in the Comedy Store. People can throw money at him
> > for touring China and presenting dodgy impro shows, but it seems that
> > some things he does purely for the fun.
> >
> > (sorry for going on a bit!)
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>

 
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Topic: Re: The New Breed of JAM Performers - Paul Merton

Message 12 / 13
jon.burton23Jun 5, 2008
 
 
Hi all,

Dean:
> What I meant Paul changed was the style of humour ...
> when before him the style of humour was more anecdotal.

I think you're right. Previously guests tended to be actors who were
witty, and Freud wasn't an actor but a chef and journalist when JAM
started. When Paul Merton started, there was a period where stand-up
comedians were used a lot more. I don't think that this was anything
to do with Paul Merton directly, but more because of Kenneth Williams'
death and the need to find a fourth person each show. Stand-up
comedians tend to be quick on their feet and able to improvise well
and so do well on the show. Also, they tend to use material which
draws on a wide range of things, whereas people like Peter Jones and
Derek Nimmo tend to recount anecdotes that happened to them or
describe personal experiences.

However, for my money, I think Derek Nimmo was one of the most skilful
players of the game (in the day before "bonus points" made up the
majority of points awarded!) and Peter Jones could be the funniest.


Jon
 
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Topic: Re: The New Breed of JAM Performers - Paul Merton

Message 13 / 13
Robert TorresJun 5, 2008
 
 
It is meant to be a comedy show, even during the early days, there was a balance between comedy and performance art.  Many of the panelists weren't 'comedians', they were actors who happened to specialize in comedy.  Much of the drama and anger on display very often was just an act, especially from Kenneth Williams (at least, most of the time), but the new breed of performers are all stand up comedians of one form or another. 
 
Dean once said that the show is an entertainment, but it also needs structure because it is a game.  If it loses that structure and people just get up and start telling jokes, it becomes silly, which is exactly what the show is slowly becoming.  All sense of competition is being lost, because everything is just becoming one big joke, and even the best comedy programs and movies can't fully sustain itself by going joke to joke to joke nonstop. but then again we are talking about scripted programs as opposed to the free form extemporaneous improvisation on display in shows like JAM and Whose Line. 
 
But anyway, granted I will admit the change in direction has certainly breathed new life into the series, I just wish there were more moments where people would attack each other verbally like in the old days, instead of asking ridiculous questions in their challenges or acquiescing all the time.  I mean, the notion of deviation seems to be a very moveable feast nowadays when it seems like you're not even sure what can be considered deviation, because one minute someone can go on a flight of fantasy, not get challenged or get the subject taken away, and then the next person does the exact same thing and gets the subject taken away for going on a flight of fantasy.  It doesn't add up. 
 
I mean if people would verbally assault one another and complain about this sort of stuff on the show, it would make it much more funnier, because it would a sort of intense combination of a Kenneth Williams tantrum mixed with a Peter Jones like bit of piss taking. 
 
I think that's also what the show is missing, someone who could take the piss out of the show the way Peter Jones did and the way Linda Smith did. 
 
The last time anyone really argued and complained about the unfairness of the rules was Rob Brydon, and he did it brilliantly, he brought some of that much needed drama back.  In addition, the show also needs someone with fire and intensity, like a Kenneth Williams or even a Wendy Richard, someone who could blow up at any given moment because of the unfairness of the game.  Those sorts of reactions add just as much humor as any insults hurled at Nicholas on a weekly basis. 
 


linda <irishmanufan@...> wrote:
i wonder am i missing the point robert i always thought j.a.m was meant
to be a comedy show .
cheers
Linda

--- In just-a-minute@ yahoogroups. com, Robert Torres
<bobbyshaddoe3004@ ...> wrote:
>
> Tis true. Arguably its a lot funnier and less serious, but he's also
taken a lot of drama and tension out of the show in some respects,
depending of course on the panelists that appears. I mean, no one
argues over points anymore, although there are moments, but more often
than not, everything seems to be a joke, bonus points are handed out
willy nilly regardless of whether someone actually said anything
particularly clever, humorous or inventive, everyone gets so muddled
that no one knows anymore whether a person said a word twice or not,
people tend to acquiesce to the decisionmaking without a fight.



 
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