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Re: New Chairman?

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DaveFeb 6, 2007
 

 
I remember the show you refer to very well. One of a pair of episodes
from a recording in Dundee - and quite by far the worst two episodes
back to back for many a long, long year in my opinion.

You misunderstood my use of the word 'colour'. By that I mean his
tangible presence impacts on EVERY show as chairman and was not a
comment on any degree of charisma.

I agree his flirtations are not funny because he appears to have a
mis-guided and arrogant self-belief in his own sexual prowess (this
comes from my observations outside of JAM).

Clive Anderson is a very interesting choice, certainly better than
any I've thought up so far. He may be too competent and witty to play
the required straight man role though.... Here's a couple to think
about for you .... Michael Palin ... or a generation younger ...
Martin Clunes.

--- In just-a-minute@..., Robert Torres
<bobbyshaddoe3004@...> wrote:

>
> well, think about it this way. the show has lost Kenneth Williams,

Derek Nimmo and Peter Jones, those are serious losses the show has
suffered. in fact when Kenneth died, the BBC had seriously
considered cancelling the show rather than try to continue without
him because of the fact that Kenneth had been so closely associated
with the show at the time of his death.

>
> oh I find Nicholas to be a great object of ridicule, in fact

that's the only reason why I tolerate his presence on the show
because I love it when the other panelists have a go at him. as for
the flirtations, I don't find them funny, I find them disgusting, and
utterly disgraceful especially for a man that's reached an age that
when a girl says 'no' he should be profoundly grateful, and the fact
that he's married as well. anyway, that's another thing, I honestly
don't think that his personality colors the show at all, I think it's
utterly boring and bland, every time he makes some inane comment,
brings the whole show to a grinding halt because no one knows or even
cares about what it is he's talking about and its only when he
realizes that he's boring people to death that he even gets any
laughs. and even then half the time he's relying on all sorts of old
jokes, either that or he tries manipulating a situation that goes
against him to turn it against the panelist.

> Case in point. During an episode of the 2004 season, the panelist

consisted of Fred MacAuley, Nick Revell, Maria McErlane and Gyles
Brandreth, I'm not sure what the subject was but Maria was talking
about having a dream with Nicholas Parsons, she gets challenged for
deviation, Nicholas doesn't give it against her because he wants to
hear more, and then when she starts again she says that she woke up
screaming in terror because it was a horrible nightmare, then she
gets challenged, the audience give Maria their sympathy and boo the
person that challenged her and what are the first words out of
Nicholas' mouth 'You've lost them Maria, you've ruined it. you've
lost them darling.' thinking that the audience were booing HER for
saying something rotten about Nicholas. it's not the first time he's
made these sorts of assumptions and generalizations.

>
> anyway, the only person that I can think of that has their own

unique style, but is actually funny and understands comedy is Clive
Anderson, the original host of Whose Line, before Drew Carey took
over.

>
> Dave <j_a_m_fan@...> wrote:
> I'm not usre you can say there have been worst losses in

the past.

> The one constant in every episode of JAM has been Nicholas Parsons
> and as (mostly) chairman, his character very much colours the show
> whether you find him funny or not. Personally I do, as an object of
> fond ridicule, despite his self-confessed pomposity and his
> outrageous and all too serious (in his mind) attempts at flirting
> with the females. Its all pretty funny and he rarely allows his
> professionalism to slip while barely keeping a lid on things one
> level removed from chaos in many cases. I suspect there are few
> potential replacements that could do that half as well, let alone
> better.
>
> --- In just-a-minute@..., Robert Torres
> <bobbyshaddoe3004@> wrote:
> >
> > never thought of it that way. only because, it seemed such a nice
> novel approach after they ousted Angus Deayton. also bearing
> something else in mind that you'd need someone still in their

prime,

> young enough, but not too young, to carry the show into the next 40
> years or so.
> >
> > I doubt very much that the show would just end if Nicholas
> decided to step down, I mean the show has got far too much life

left

> in it. the show has suffered worse losses in the past and managed

to

> continue, I'm sure the same will apply here. all they need is the
> right sort of chap to do the job. if we're lucky, we might get
> someone who is actually funny.
> >
> > j_a_m_fan <j_a_m_fan@> wrote:
> > I considered the 'Have I got News For You Approach' and
> think it
> > would be a disaster. The qualities you outline are of paramount
> > importance, this isn't just reading someone elses jokes off an

auto

> > queue..... but then again .. what about Boris Johnson!? haha.

Praps

> > not.
> >
> > --- In just-a-minute@..., Robert Torres
> > <bobbyshaddoe3004@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Finally, something I could really sink my teeth into.
> > >
> > > Well, I don't think it would be all that right to try and find
> > another Nicholas Parsons, but the idea being that to find someone
> > that has an understanding of the show in that the comedy and

humor

> > and banter is actually a bit more important than the rules of

this

> > silly game. or they could do what they do on 'Have I Got News For
> > You' and have different people as chairman every few weeks or so.
> > >
> > > or failing that, they could get Clive Anderson, he was awfully
> > good on Whose Line, I'm certain he could do just as well chairing
> > JAM.
> > >
> > > j_a_m_fan <j_a_m_fan@> wrote:
> > > In the light of certain comments about Nicholas Parsons
> > in this group
> > > I thought I'd post up some thoughts I've been mulling over for

a

> > > couple of years now.
> > >
> > > I think Nicholas is great and would be terribly hard to

replace,

> > not
> > > least because that type of Britishness really doesn't exist
> > > anymore, and I believe that is one of the great charms of JAM.
> > >
> > > Now obviously I hope he goes on for many, many years yet, but

if

> > for
> > > some reason he didn't continue, who would be your choice for

his

> > > replacement?
> > >
> > > Do you try and replace like for like? In which case the only

two

> > > names I can think of are Stephen Fry and Giles Brandreth - but
> > > both of these are very good players and would be, I suspect,

far

> > > too competent anyway. Its only their Britishness which is

similar.

> > >
> > > Or do you go for some whole new feel? If so, who would you pick?
> > >
> > > Or, god forbid, would this herald the end of the great
> institution
> > > which is Just A minute?
> > >
> > > I'd be very interested to hear the group's thoughts.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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