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Re: New Chairman?

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DaveFeb 6, 2007
 

 
Martin Clunes is a British comdey-actor best known, I suppose, for
the series Men Behaving Badly. He has also done some films and TV
plays. He has very sticky-out ears, so if all else failed, the
panelists could resort to abusing him about them in tight situations.

Sorry to disappoint, but my favourite two panelists are Clement and
Paul, so that probably disqualifies me on the kindred spirit thing.

--- In just-a-minute@..., Robert Torres
<bobbyshaddoe3004@...> wrote:

>
> I think Dave I've found a kindred spirit in you my friend.
>
> the two recordings in Dundee, I wouldn't call them the worse pair

of episodes, I liked those episodes, because it showcased some good
players that didn't include Paul Merton or Clement Freud for that
matter. I just liked that Gyles was there, along with Maria, Fred
and Nick. I can think of several other episodes that are far worse,
like one episode I think from 2005 in Edinburgh that featured Paul,
Clement, Owen O'Neil and Bill Bailey, no sir, didn't like it, because
for one thing I don't find Bill Bailey to be all that funny and Owen
was just a non-entity, he might as well have not been there for all
he contributed.

>
> I think I understand now with your use of the word 'color', cuz

he certainly does have an impact on the show, and it sure as heck
ain't got nothing to do with charisma. as Clement once said, 'when
one looks at Nicholas Parsons, one sees a void where charisma should
be'

>
> I'm glad someone else is on my side regarding the flirtations,

and I couldn't have put it better myself regarding his own arrogance
and the degree of self-importance he has about himself.

>
> Michael Palin? well, it certainly would be interesting for him

to be chairman, I mean it's been years since he was even on the
program as a panelist. you know what's funny, I'm still hoping that
John Cleese or Eric Idle will be on JAM, to sort of continue the
Monty Python connection.

>
> By the way, whose Martin Clunes? I'm unfamiliar with the name.
>
> Dave <j_a_m_fan@...> wrote:
> I remember the show you refer to very well. One of a pair

of episodes

> from a recording in Dundee - and quite by far the worst two

episodes

> back to back for many a long, long year in my opinion.
>
> You misunderstood my use of the word 'colour'. By that I mean his
> tangible presence impacts on EVERY show as chairman and was not a
> comment on any degree of charisma.
>
> I agree his flirtations are not funny because he appears to have a
> mis-guided and arrogant self-belief in his own sexual prowess (this
> comes from my observations outside of JAM).
>
> Clive Anderson is a very interesting choice, certainly better than
> any I've thought up so far. He may be too competent and witty to

play

> the required straight man role though.... Here's a couple to think
> about for you .... Michael Palin ... or a generation younger ...
> Martin Clunes.
>
> --- In just-a-minute@..., Robert Torres
> <bobbyshaddoe3004@> wrote:
> >
> > well, think about it this way. the show has lost Kenneth

Williams,

> Derek Nimmo and Peter Jones, those are serious losses the show has
> suffered. in fact when Kenneth died, the BBC had seriously
> considered cancelling the show rather than try to continue without
> him because of the fact that Kenneth had been so closely associated
> with the show at the time of his death.
> >
> > oh I find Nicholas to be a great object of ridicule, in fact
> that's the only reason why I tolerate his presence on the show
> because I love it when the other panelists have a go at him. as for
> the flirtations, I don't find them funny, I find them disgusting,

and

> utterly disgraceful especially for a man that's reached an age that
> when a girl says 'no' he should be profoundly grateful, and the

fact

> that he's married as well. anyway, that's another thing, I honestly
> don't think that his personality colors the show at all, I think

it's

> utterly boring and bland, every time he makes some inane comment,
> brings the whole show to a grinding halt because no one knows or

even

> cares about what it is he's talking about and its only when he
> realizes that he's boring people to death that he even gets any
> laughs. and even then half the time he's relying on all sorts of

old

> jokes, either that or he tries manipulating a situation that goes
> against him to turn it against the panelist.
> > Case in point. During an episode of the 2004 season, the panelist
> consisted of Fred MacAuley, Nick Revell, Maria McErlane and Gyles
> Brandreth, I'm not sure what the subject was but Maria was talking
> about having a dream with Nicholas Parsons, she gets challenged for
> deviation, Nicholas doesn't give it against her because he wants to
> hear more, and then when she starts again she says that she woke up
> screaming in terror because it was a horrible nightmare, then she
> gets challenged, the audience give Maria their sympathy and boo the
> person that challenged her and what are the first words out of
> Nicholas' mouth 'You've lost them Maria, you've ruined it. you've
> lost them darling.' thinking that the audience were booing HER for
> saying something rotten about Nicholas. it's not the first time

he's

> made these sorts of assumptions and generalizations.
> >
> > anyway, the only person that I can think of that has their own
> unique style, but is actually funny and understands comedy is Clive
> Anderson, the original host of Whose Line, before Drew Carey took
> over.
> >
> > Dave <j_a_m_fan@> wrote:
> > I'm not usre you can say there have been worst losses in
> the past.
> > The one constant in every episode of JAM has been Nicholas

Parsons

> > and as (mostly) chairman, his character very much colours the

show

> > whether you find him funny or not. Personally I do, as an object

of

> > fond ridicule, despite his self-confessed pomposity and his
> > outrageous and all too serious (in his mind) attempts at flirting
> > with the females. Its all pretty funny and he rarely allows his
> > professionalism to slip while barely keeping a lid on things one
> > level removed from chaos in many cases. I suspect there are few
> > potential replacements that could do that half as well, let alone
> > better.
> >
> > --- In just-a-minute@..., Robert Torres
> > <bobbyshaddoe3004@> wrote:
> > >
> > > never thought of it that way. only because, it seemed such a

nice

> > novel approach after they ousted Angus Deayton. also bearing
> > something else in mind that you'd need someone still in their
> prime,
> > young enough, but not too young, to carry the show into the next

40

> > years or so.
> > >
> > > I doubt very much that the show would just end if Nicholas
> > decided to step down, I mean the show has got far too much life
> left
> > in it. the show has suffered worse losses in the past and managed
> to
> > continue, I'm sure the same will apply here. all they need is the
> > right sort of chap to do the job. if we're lucky, we might get
> > someone who is actually funny.
> > >
> > > j_a_m_fan <j_a_m_fan@> wrote:
> > > I considered the 'Have I got News For You Approach' and
> > think it
> > > would be a disaster. The qualities you outline are of paramount
> > > importance, this isn't just reading someone elses jokes off an
> auto
> > > queue..... but then again .. what about Boris Johnson!? haha.
> Praps
> > > not.
> > >
> > > --- In just-a-minute@..., Robert Torres
> > > <bobbyshaddoe3004@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Finally, something I could really sink my teeth into.
> > > >
> > > > Well, I don't think it would be all that right to try and

find

> > > another Nicholas Parsons, but the idea being that to find

someone

> > > that has an understanding of the show in that the comedy and
> humor
> > > and banter is actually a bit more important than the rules of
> this
> > > silly game. or they could do what they do on 'Have I Got News

For

> > > You' and have different people as chairman every few weeks or

so.

> > > >
> > > > or failing that, they could get Clive Anderson, he was

awfully

> > > good on Whose Line, I'm certain he could do just as well

chairing

> > > JAM.
> > > >
> > > > j_a_m_fan <j_a_m_fan@> wrote:
> > > > In the light of certain comments about Nicholas Parsons
> > > in this group
> > > > I thought I'd post up some thoughts I've been mulling over

for

> a
> > > > couple of years now.
> > > >
> > > > I think Nicholas is great and would be terribly hard to
> replace,
> > > not
> > > > least because that type of Britishness really doesn't exist
> > > > anymore, and I believe that is one of the great charms of JAM.
> > > >
> > > > Now obviously I hope he goes on for many, many years yet, but
> if
> > > for
> > > > some reason he didn't continue, who would be your choice for
> his
> > > > replacement?
> > > >
> > > > Do you try and replace like for like? In which case the only
> two
> > > > names I can think of are Stephen Fry and Giles Brandreth -

but

> > > > both of these are very good players and would be, I suspect,
> far
> > > > too competent anyway. Its only their Britishness which is
> similar.
> > > >
> > > > Or do you go for some whole new feel? If so, who would you

pick?

> > > >
> > > > Or, god forbid, would this herald the end of the great
> > institution
> > > > which is Just A minute?
> > > >
> > > > I'd be very interested to hear the group's thoughts.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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