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Topic: Repeated material

Message 1 / 18
jeremy_keensSep 9, 2008
 
 
Hi

The repeated topic posts got me thinking about repeated material

How many times has Giles made the Balls sisters or the Schmidt joke?
Or Clement the line about the duty of a high born man?

Any other regularly repeated/performed material?

Jeremy
 
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Topic: Re:Repeated material

Message 2 / 18
Vicki WalkerSep 9, 2008
 
 
I want to know the person named Gladys who inspired Clement so.


 
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Topic: Re: Repeated material

Message 3 / 18
Robert TorresSep 9, 2008
 
 
Derek tended to always bring up the notion of trolley carts, either in supermarkets or even airports, with one wheel that always turned left.
 
Kenneth frequently brought up Maudie Fiddleworth, Fun with a Frankfurter into any discussion on any topic. 
 
I don't think Peter had any repeated material to be honest, mostly because he was largely against rehashing the same old routine, and frequently commented or complained on the lack of originality from the other panelists, especially if they repeated things that he'd been talking about just a minute or two ago. 

--- On Tue, 9/9/08, jeremy_keens <jeremy.keens@...> wrote:
From: jeremy_keens <jeremy.keens@...>
Subject: [just-a-minute] Repeated material
To: just-a-minute@...
Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 4:24 AM

Hi

The repeated topic posts got me thinking about repeated material

How many times has Giles made the Balls sisters or the Schmidt joke?
Or Clement the line about the duty of a high born man?

Any other regularly repeated/performed material?

Jeremy



 
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Topic: Re: Repeated material

Message 4 / 18
William ClarksonSep 10, 2008
 
 
Clement often will use the joke about P.T. Barnum and the man shot out
of the cannon. I think he first used it when the subject was P.T.
Barnum. He flubbed it a bit the first time, but has it down pat now.
He always repeats man, but it seems to be ignored by the other
panelist, probably because he gets a good laugh from it.


--- In just-a-minute@..., Robert Torres
<bobbyshaddoe3004@...> wrote:
>
> Derek tended to always bring up the notion of trolley carts, either
in supermarkets or even airports, with one wheel that always turned left.
>  
> Kenneth frequently brought up Maudie Fiddleworth, Fun with a
Frankfurter into any discussion on any topic. 
>  
> I don't think Peter had any repeated material to be honest, mostly
because he was largely against rehashing the same old routine, and
frequently commented or complained on the lack of originality from the
other panelists, especially if they repeated things that he'd been
talking about just a minute or two ago. 
>
> --- On Tue, 9/9/08, jeremy_keens <jeremy.keens@...> wrote:
>
> From: jeremy_keens <jeremy.keens@...>
> Subject: [just-a-minute] Repeated material
> To: just-a-minute@...
> Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 4:24 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi
>
> The repeated topic posts got me thinking about repeated material
>
> How many times has Giles made the Balls sisters or the Schmidt joke?
> Or Clement the line about the duty of a high born man?
>
> Any other regularly repeated/performed material?
>
> Jeremy
>

 
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Topic: Re: Repeated material

Message 5 / 18
MiriamSep 10, 2008
 
 
This probalby doesn't really count but Paul Merton has made many
a "ham sandwich" during JAM ( when challenging for hesitation)

That one limerick about going to china with the sex crazed gorilla
has been told more than once by more than one panelist. Miriam


--- In just-a-minute@..., "jeremy_keens"
<jeremy.keens@...> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> The repeated topic posts got me thinking about repeated material
>
> How many times has Giles made the Balls sisters or the Schmidt joke?
> Or Clement the line about the duty of a high born man?
>
> Any other regularly repeated/performed material?
>
> Jeremy
>

 
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Topic: Re: Repeated material

Message 6 / 18
William ClarksonSep 10, 2008
 
 
Yes, and when he didn't make a sandwich, he parked a bus!

--- In just-a-minute@..., "Miriam" <delmelza@...> wrote:
>
> This probalby doesn't really count but Paul Merton has made many
> a "ham sandwich" during JAM ( when challenging for hesitation)
>
> That one limerick about going to china with the sex crazed gorilla
> has been told more than once by more than one panelist. Miriam
>
>
> --- In just-a-minute@..., "jeremy_keens"
> <jeremy.keens@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > The repeated topic posts got me thinking about repeated material
> >
> > How many times has Giles made the Balls sisters or the Schmidt joke?
> > Or Clement the line about the duty of a high born man?
> >
> > Any other regularly repeated/performed material?
> >
> > Jeremy
> >
>

 
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Topic: Re: Repeated material

Message 7 / 18
Robert TorresSep 10, 2008
 
 
Wendy Richard very often brought up her terrier Shirley Brahms, in addition to her cockatiel little Henry. 
 
Other than that, no one else on the show has really brought up much repeated material, because everyone who appears on the show nowadays don't rely on old jokes, but use the incredibly complex realms of improvisation to come up with all sorts of wonderfully spontaneous material. 

--- On Wed, 9/10/08, William Clarkson <punch37179@...> wrote:
From: William Clarkson <punch37179@...>
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: Repeated material
To: just-a-minute@...
Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 10:44 AM

Clement often will use the joke about P.T. Barnum and the man shot out
of the cannon. I think he first used it when the subject was P.T.
Barnum. He flubbed it a bit the first time, but has it down pat now.
He always repeats man, but it seems to be ignored by the other
panelist, probably because he gets a good laugh from it.

--- In just-a-minute@ yahoogroups. com, Robert Torres
<bobbyshaddoe3004@ ...> wrote:
>
> Derek tended to always bring up the notion of trolley carts, either
in supermarkets or even airports, with one wheel that always turned left.
>  
> Kenneth frequently brought up Maudie Fiddleworth, Fun with a
Frankfurter into any discussion on any topic. 
>  
> I don't think Peter had any repeated material to be honest, mostly
because he was largely against rehashing the same old routine, and
frequently commented or complained on the lack of originality from the
other panelists, especially if they repeated things that he'd been
talking about just a minute or two ago. 
>
> --- On Tue, 9/9/08, jeremy_keens <jeremy.keens@ ...> wrote:
>
> From: jeremy_keens <jeremy.keens@ ...>
> Subject: [just-a-minute] Repeated material
> To: just-a-minute@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 4:24 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi
>
> The repeated topic posts got me thinking about repeated material
>
> How many times has Giles made the Balls sisters or the Schmidt joke?
> Or Clement the line about the duty of a high born man?
>
> Any other regularly repeated/performed material?
>
> Jeremy
>



 
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Topic: Re: Repeated material

Message 8 / 18
Dean BedfordSep 10, 2008
 
 
On Thursday, September 11, 2008, at 02:44 AM, William Clarkson wrote:

> Clement often will use the joke about P.T. Barnum and the man shot out
> of the cannon. I think he first used it when the subject was P.T.
> Barnum. He flubbed it a bit the first time, but has it down pat now.
> He always repeats man, but it seems to be ignored by the other
> panelist, probably because he gets a good laugh from it.

A lot depends on how we define "repeated material" but surely Kenneth
was the king of it

* I've walked all the way from Great Portland Street
* I haven't come here to be insulted
* They shouldn't have women on the show!
* I'm a cult!
* They love my spun gold hair.
* And that stream of Unwinese must have been used a dozen or more times.

Of course if I had another 30 seconds, I'd probably think up half a
dozen more.
 
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Topic: Re: Repeated material

Message 9 / 18
Dean BedfordSep 10, 2008
 
 
On Thursday, September 11, 2008, at 11:44 AM, Dean Bedford wrote:
>
> A lot depends on how we define "repeated material" but surely Kenneth
> was the king of it
>
> * I've walked all the way from Great Portland Street
> * I haven't come here to be insulted
> * They shouldn't have women on the show!
> * I'm a cult!
> * They love my spun gold hair.
> * And that stream of Unwinese must have been used a dozen or more times.
>
> Of course if I had another 30 seconds, I'd probably think up half a
> dozen more.
>
which perhaps goes to show it's not just a matter of reusing old jokes -
as Kenneth was surely a unique performer and really there's no-one else
on the show who could have used these "routines".

Indeed what's interesting about JAM in many ways is hearing the mind at
work... Kenneth had a very interesting mind.
 
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Topic: Re: Repeated material

Message 10 / 18
Clitheroe KidSep 10, 2008
 
 
I thought Maudie Fittleworth was a (fictional) character who the
scriptwriters used to have Joan Sims refer to, in the radio series "Stop
Messing About", which she and Kenneth Williams appeared in together
following the cancellation of "Round the Horne". The character may even have
originated in RTH.

I suppose KW must have liked the name, which presumably appealled to his
sense of the ridiculous.


----- Original Message -----
From: "William Clarkson" <punch37179@...>
To: <just-a-minute@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:44 PM
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: Repeated material


Clement often will use the joke about P.T. Barnum and the man shot out
of the cannon. I think he first used it when the subject was P.T.
Barnum. He flubbed it a bit the first time, but has it down pat now.
He always repeats man, but it seems to be ignored by the other
panelist, probably because he gets a good laugh from it.


--- In just-a-minute@..., Robert Torres
<bobbyshaddoe3004@...> wrote:
>
> Derek tended to always bring up the notion of trolley carts, either
in supermarkets or even airports, with one wheel that always turned left.
>
> Kenneth frequently brought up Maudie Fiddleworth, Fun with a
Frankfurter into any discussion on any topic.
>
> I don't think Peter had any repeated material to be honest, mostly
because he was largely against rehashing the same old routine, and
frequently commented or complained on the lack of originality from the
other panelists, especially if they repeated things that he'd been
talking about just a minute or two ago.
>
> --- On Tue, 9/9/08, jeremy_keens <jeremy.keens@...> wrote:
>
> From: jeremy_keens <jeremy.keens@...>
> Subject: [just-a-minute] Repeated material
> To: just-a-minute@...
> Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 4:24 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi
>
> The repeated topic posts got me thinking about repeated material
>
> How many times has Giles made the Balls sisters or the Schmidt joke?
> Or Clement the line about the duty of a high born man?
>
> Any other regularly repeated/performed material?
>
> Jeremy
>



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Topic: Re: Repeated material

Message 11 / 18
Clitheroe KidSep 10, 2008
 
 
The song which includes the lyric "I was strapped to the tiller with a
sex-starved gorilla, and China's a bloody long way!" was a traditional
favourite among British comedians of a certain vintage.

It possibly originated with Les Dawson. I certainly heard him use it in this
form on his radio show, 'Listen to Les', in the Seventies. In which case it
may have been written by either Les himself or his long-time scriptwriter
and producer, James Casey.

Some repeats of Les's radio show were aired on BBC 7 last year, and I think
that sketch was one of those included. But I've also heard it attributed to
'The Goon Show' in the Fifties.

I certainly remember someone using it on 'Just A Minute' and getting a big
laugh with it - I think it was either Peter Jones or Derek Nimmo. It was a
well-known joke, always good for a laugh, and by the Eighties had become
just part of the common currency of comedians.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Miriam" <delmelza@...>
To: <just-a-minute@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 7:05 PM
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: Repeated material


> This probalby doesn't really count but Paul Merton has made many
> a "ham sandwich" during JAM ( when challenging for hesitation)
>
> That one limerick about going to china with the sex crazed gorilla
> has been told more than once by more than one panelist. Miriam
>
>
> --- In just-a-minute@..., "jeremy_keens"
> <jeremy.keens@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > The repeated topic posts got me thinking about repeated material
> >
> > How many times has Giles made the Balls sisters or the Schmidt joke?
> > Or Clement the line about the duty of a high born man?
> >
> > Any other regularly repeated/performed material?
> >
> > Jeremy
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

 
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Topic: Re: Repeated material

Message 12 / 18
Dean BedfordSep 10, 2008
 
 
On Thursday, September 11, 2008, at 03:19 PM, Clitheroe Kid wrote:

> The song which includes the lyric "I was strapped to the tiller with a
> sex-starved gorilla, and China's a bloody long way!" was a traditional
> favourite among British comedians of a certain vintage.
>
> It possibly originated with Les Dawson. I certainly heard him use it in
> this
> form on his radio show, 'Listen to Les', in the Seventies. In which
> case it
> may have been written by either Les himself or his long-time
> scriptwriter
> and producer, James Casey.
>
> Some repeats of Les's radio show were aired on BBC 7 last year, and I
> think
> that sketch was one of those included. But I've also heard it
> attributed to
> 'The Goon Show' in the Fifties.
>
> I certainly remember someone using it on 'Just A Minute' and getting a
> big
> laugh with it - I think it was either Peter Jones or Derek Nimmo. It
> was a
> well-known joke, always good for a laugh, and by the Eighties had become
> just part of the common currency of comedians.

It was Peter and he recited it as a limerick... (may well have been a
song too) And Paul used it earlier this series.

There was a young man from Torbay
Who was sailing to China one day
He was tied to the tiller
By a sex-crazed gorilla
And China's a bloody long way
 
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Topic: Re: Repeated material

Message 13 / 18
Robert TorresSep 10, 2008
 
 
Well Paul seems to have taken up the banner of some of Kenneth's old catchphrases.  He's now taken the habit of calling Nicholas an 'excellent chairman' the way Kenneth used to when things went his way, and often says 'Best chairman we got' twice in a row, which very often prompts Nicholas to say something ridiculous like 'its the only chairman you've got'.
 
Even in the last series Paul even went so far as to say 'I haven't come all the way from Great Portland Street to listen to this.'

--- On Wed, 9/10/08, Dean Bedford <dbedford@...> wrote:
From: Dean Bedford <dbedford@...>
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: Repeated material
To: just-a-minute@...
Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 7:51 PM


On Thursday, September 11, 2008, at 11:44 AM, Dean Bedford wrote:
>
> A lot depends on how we define "repeated material" but surely Kenneth
> was the king of it
>
> * I've walked all the way from Great Portland Street
> * I haven't come here to be insulted
> * They shouldn't have women on the show!
> * I'm a cult!
> * They love my spun gold hair.
> * And that stream of Unwinese must have been used a dozen or more times.
>
> Of course if I had another 30 seconds, I'd probably think up half a
> dozen more.
>
which perhaps goes to show it's not just a matter of reusing old jokes -
as Kenneth was surely a unique performer and really there's no-one else
on the show who could have used these "routines".

Indeed what's interesting about JAM in many ways is hearing the mind at
work... Kenneth had a very interesting mind.



 
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Topic: Re: Repeated material

Message 14 / 18
Dean BedfordSep 11, 2008
 
 
On Thursday, September 11, 2008, at 04:57 PM, Robert Torres wrote:

Well Paul seems to have taken up the banner of some of Kenneth's old
catchphrases.  He's now taken the habit of calling Nicholas an
'excellent chairman' the way Kenneth used to when things went his way,
and often says 'Best chairman we got' twice in a row, which very often
prompts Nicholas to say something ridiculous like 'its the only chairman
you've got'.
 
Even in the last series Paul even went so far as to say 'I haven't come
all the way from Great Portland Street to listen to this.'


>


Comments on the chairing of the show have been a common in-joke for
about 35 years, and not just from Paul and Kenneth.
On that one use of a Kenneth phrase, I just don't see Paul's use of the
phrase as being similar to Kenneth's tantrums. They're both very very
funny, but stylistically miles apart.

 
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Topic: Re: Repeated material

Message 15 / 18
Emile JumeanSep 11, 2008
 
 
That entire "limericks" round from which Peter's comes from is one of
my all-time favourite JAM moments. Both of Derek's limericks brought
the house down -- and the one about the mole's hill was repeated by
Clement in a much later series -- 20 years later, in fact.

Emile

> It was Peter and he recited it as a limerick... (may well have been a
> song too) And Paul used it earlier this series.
>
> There was a young man from Torbay
> Who was sailing to China one day
> He was tied to the tiller
> By a sex-crazed gorilla
> And China's a bloody long way
>

 
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Topic: Re: Repeated material

Message 16 / 18
Robert TorresSep 11, 2008
 
 
True.  The way Paul and Kenneth would rant on things were very different in their approach, Kenneth tended to scream at the top of his lungs for people to 'shut their row' and 'not to argue with the chairman' especially if something was going his way, and the way Kenneth used to pull Nicholas down tended to be more pulling him up right on the spot for Nicholas' mannerisms or over the fact that Nicholas seemed to be in collusion with the females, and that he intends to take them out after the show, and all sorts of things. 
 
Paul tended to attack Nicholas for the outright absurdity of his justifications in either taking subjects away from him or someone else or for leaving it with someone who has no right to keep the subject at all.  One prime example that immediately comes to mind is the 'herbacious border' incident. 

--- On Thu, 9/11/08, Dean Bedford <dbedford@...> wrote:
From: Dean Bedford <dbedford@...>
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: Repeated material
To: just-a-minute@...
Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 5:28 AM

On Thursday, September 11, 2008, at 04:57 PM, Robert Torres wrote:

Well Paul seems to have taken up the banner of some of Kenneth's old 
catchphrases.  He's now taken the habit of calling Nicholas an 
'excellent chairman' the way Kenneth used to when things went his way, 
and often says 'Best chairman we got' twice in a row, which very often 
prompts Nicholas to say something ridiculous like 'its the only chairman 
you've got'.
 
Even in the last series Paul even went so far as to say 'I
haven't come 
all the way from Great Portland Street to listen to this.'


>


Comments on the chairing of the show have been a common in-joke for 
about 35 years, and not just from Paul and Kenneth.
On that one use of a Kenneth phrase, I just don't see Paul's use of the

phrase as being similar to Kenneth's tantrums. They're both very very 
funny, but stylistically miles apart.


 
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Topic: Re: Repeated material

Message 17 / 18
Robert TorresOct 16, 2008
 
 
Actually, it's two separate things that Clement usually says.  The first being, 'It is a mark of insincerity of purpose to seek a high born emperor in a lowdown teashop'.  The other being, 'It is the duty of a noble man to give employment to an artisan.'



--- In just-a-minute@ yahoogroups. com, "jeremy_keens"
<jeremy.keens@ ...> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> The repeated topic posts got me thinking about repeated material
>
> How many times has Giles made the Balls sisters or the Schmidt joke?
> Or Clement the line about the duty of a high born man?
>
> Any other regularly repeated/performed material?
>
> Jeremy
>



 
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Topic: Re: Repeated material

Message 18 / 18
stevenwickhamOct 20, 2008
 
 
Back to Giles though... he has used the story about his hair turning
the colour of his political leader at the time many times.... which is
growing a little tiresome, as it gives the impression that he doesn't
have as many stories up his sleeve as one would have thought...!!!!
 
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