--- In just-a-minute@..., nylon net <nylon@...> wrote:
>
> Must agree. Wendy always seemed rather po-faced and irritable, especially when Clement listed. And she *always* objected to lists, which grew rather tiresome.
>
> nylon.net
> nylon@...
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: clitheroekid@...
> > Sent: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:57:59 +0100
> > To: just-a-minute@...
> > Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: Article + Edinburgh Guest
> >
> > At the risk of being unduely contraversial, I'd have to say that the fact
> > Kenneth Williams was always worth hearing was largely *because* he was
> > able
> > to say something intelligent about a subject, due to doing some research
> > beforehand - not merely because of being witty.
> >
> > They didn't always have subjects that needed researching. "My favourite
> > colour" or "Why Kenneth Williams irritates me" were topics that clearly
> > needed no research. But when they had a historical character as the
> > subject,
> > that did benefit from some research.
> >
> > In my opinion, having someone on the show who was not simply waffling was
> > a
> > real benefit to the show. It gave it some depth, which it sadly lacks
> > today.
> > (If this week's contestants had done any research, I don't think it
> > showed!)
> >
> > And Kenneth could be funny about *anything* - a feat which only Paul
> > Merton
> > can achieve now.
> >
> > Whereas, at the other end of the scale, Wendy Richard (bless her) - who I
> > loved dearly - never did anything but waffle. Aimi Macdonald too. But
> > Aimi
> > was capable, at her best, of being hysterically funny: something which
> > can
> > excuse a multitude of sins!
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dean Bedford" <dbedford@...>
> > To: <just-a-minute@...>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 1:12 AM
> > Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: Article + Edinburgh Guest
> >
> >
> > I suspect almost no-one goes on stage not having some thought about the
> > subjects. I'm not sure that's changed either. After all in his diaries
> > Kenneth Williams describes mugging up on historical subjects days before
> > a recording.
> >
> > I do respect and understand your wish for complete spontaneity. Not sure
> > I feel as strongly - I think I'd rather they had something to say on the
> > subjects than waffle on saying nothing. But I do see where you're coming
> > from.
> >
> >
> > On Thursday, August 20, 2009, at 12:53 AM, nylon net wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I certainly agree that JAM is unscripted, but I wonder how many modern
> >> contestants refuse to be told what topics their episodes will include.
> >> They all seem SO prepared when their topics arise. It really, sadly
> >> reeks of days of careful preparation.
> >>
> >> While there are certainly uncertainties after the first challenge
> >> comes, I wonder how many contestants are really flying off the cuff
> >> when Saint Nick says "You have 60 seconds starting NOW"?
> >>
> >> Preparation surely helps the contestants manage their tendencies to
> >> vomit on-stage when they get a tricky subject, but it does sound rather
> >> glib much of the time when the first speaker launches into a virgin
> >> topic.
> >>
> >> JAM is - or is meant to be - the modern equivalent of the Coliseum. We
> >> oooh and ahh at the vicissitudes and victories of the victims, but less
> >> blood is spent in the sawdust nowadays. In the early days of "I'm
> >> Sorry I haven't a Clue" Bill Oddie would pulsate with terror at each
> >> request for an unscripted poem or song. Are modern performers too
> >> precious to be stressed like this nowadays in a "theatre-sports"
> >> environment like JAM? Surely not.
> >>
> >> I believe their pluck will be seen, and their spirits more greatly
> >> admired when it's obvious they are hearing the subject for the first
> >> time in their lives.
> >>
> >> Don't give them the topics in advance! (Except, perhaps for the
> >> newbies like Paul Merton)
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Mark
> >> nylon.net
> >
> >
> >
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