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Topic: Scott Fitzgerald or F. Scott Fitzgerald?

Message 1 / 5
BobbyMar 13, 2010
 
 
This is just a genuine query that has me truly and utterly flabbergasted. in an episode from 2009, the panelists were, Paul Merton, Kit Hesketh-Harvey, Gyles Brandreth and Shappi Khorsandi, and there was a subject about American author F. Scott Fitzgerald, but the subject on the card was simply 'Scott Fitzgerald'. This is just confusing because I read 'The Great Gatsby' in college and he has always been called 'F. Scott Fitzgerald' but yet the people on Just a Minute drop the F like it never existed. Its printed on all his bloody books 'F. Scott Fitzgerald', so I'm curious as to what kind of illiterate moron decided to drop the first initial from the name of one of the greatest authors in American history?

I mean, we in the states don't refer to J.K. Rowling as simply 'Rowling'? So what the hell is going on? I mean, surely if F. Scott Fitzgerald truly is one of Christopher Nicholas Parsons' favorite authors, then why didn't he raise a big stink about the fact that someone left the first initial off of the man's name?

I mean for someone that goes to great lengths to make grammatical alterations to 'What I Got For Christmas' and change to 'What I Was Given For Christmas', it just seems odd that he would let something like this slide.
 
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Topic: Re: Scott Fitzgerald or F. Scott Fitzgerald?

Message 2 / 5
Don JudgeMar 13, 2010
 
 
I reckon it was in the hope that someone would talk about someone other than F. Scott Fitzgerald as in Scott Fitzgerald the Watford football player here in the UK.

Paul Merton is good at talking about a subject that not everyone expects from the words on the card.
Can't think of one right now but I remember he does it quite a lot.
--
Cheers

Don    __o
      -\<,
..... O/ O





From: Bobby <bobbyshaddoe3004@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Sunday, 14 March, 2010 0:54:11
Subject: [just-a-minute] Scott Fitzgerald or F. Scott Fitzgerald?

 

This is just a genuine query that has me truly and utterly flabbergasted. in an episode from 2009, the panelists were, Paul Merton, Kit Hesketh-Harvey, Gyles Brandreth and Shappi Khorsandi, and there was a subject about American author F. Scott Fitzgerald, but the subject on the card was simply 'Scott Fitzgerald'. This is just confusing because I read 'The Great Gatsby' in college and he has always been called 'F. Scott Fitzgerald' but yet the people on Just a Minute drop the F like it never existed. Its printed on all his bloody books 'F. Scott Fitzgerald', so I'm curious as to what kind of illiterate moron decided to drop the first initial from the name of one of the greatest authors in American history?

I mean, we in the states don't refer to J.K. Rowling as simply 'Rowling'? So what the hell is going on? I mean, surely if F. Scott Fitzgerald truly is one of Christopher Nicholas Parsons' favorite authors, then why didn't he raise a big stink about the fact that someone left the first initial off of the man's name?

I mean for someone that goes to great lengths to make grammatical alterations to 'What I Got For Christmas' and change to 'What I Was Given For Christmas', it just seems odd that he would let something like this slide.


 
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Topic: Re: Scott Fitzgerald or F. Scott Fitzgerald?

Message 3 / 5
Robert TorresMar 13, 2010
 
 
I would understand that if that had actually happened, but it didn't. 
 
There have been times over the years when someone historical was on the card and while one or two panelists will actually talk about that individual in their proper historical context, there will also be someone that will go off and talk about someone they claim to know personally that happens to have the same name.
 
I seem to recall something similar many years ago, I believe in the late 1960's when the subject was 'Benjamin Franklin' and they mentioned him as an American President (which he wasn't) and also made reference to the fact that he was also apparently someone that played cricket or was a bowler (in the context that he was the pitcher in the game of cricket). 
 


--- On Sat, 3/13/10, Don Judge <don@...> wrote:

From: Don Judge <don@...>
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Scott Fitzgerald or F. Scott Fitzgerald?
To: just-a-minute@...
Date: Saturday, March 13, 2010, 8:13 PM

 
I reckon it was in the hope that someone would talk about someone other than F. Scott Fitzgerald as in Scott Fitzgerald the Watford football player here in the UK.

Paul Merton is good at talking about a subject that not everyone expects from the words on the card.
Can't think of one right now but I remember he does it quite a lot.
--
Cheers

Don    __o
      -\<,
..... O/ O





From: Bobby <bobbyshaddoe3004@ yahoo.com>
To: just-a-minute@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sunday, 14 March, 2010 0:54:11
Subject: [just-a-minute] Scott Fitzgerald or F. Scott Fitzgerald?

 
This is just a genuine query that has me truly and utterly flabbergasted. in an episode from 2009, the panelists were, Paul Merton, Kit Hesketh-Harvey, Gyles Brandreth and Shappi Khorsandi, and there was a subject about American author F. Scott Fitzgerald, but the subject on the card was simply 'Scott Fitzgerald'. This is just confusing because I read 'The Great Gatsby' in college and he has always been called 'F. Scott Fitzgerald' but yet the people on Just a Minute drop the F like it never existed. Its printed on all his bloody books 'F. Scott Fitzgerald', so I'm curious as to what kind of illiterate moron decided to drop the first initial from the name of one of the greatest authors in American history?

I mean, we in the states don't refer to J.K. Rowling as simply 'Rowling'? So what the hell is going on? I mean, surely if F. Scott Fitzgerald truly is one of Christopher Nicholas Parsons' favorite authors, then why didn't he raise a big stink about the fact that someone left the first initial off of the man's name?

I mean for someone that goes to great lengths to make grammatical alterations to 'What I Got For Christmas' and change to 'What I Was Given For Christmas', it just seems odd that he would let something like this slide.



 
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Topic: Re: Scott Fitzgerald or F. Scott Fitzgerald?

Message 4 / 5
kj.naughtonMar 14, 2010
 
 
If this *is* a genuine query, then the only answer can be "the type of illiterate moron that works for the BBC". However if, as seems likely, it's an observation to post a message containing another dig at Nicholas Parsons then I shall assume it was a rhetorical question.

My reaction to your continuous attacks on Nicholas Parsons has varied from mild amusement to mild annoyance. I have no strong feelings either way on Nicholas. However now you've decided to combine this with the multiple expletives contained in the original post, I've now added you to my blocked email address list. Replying to me is pointless - I won't receive it.

kJ

--- In just-a-minute@..., "Bobby" <bobbyshaddoe3004@...> wrote:
>
> This is just a genuine query that has me truly and utterly flabbergasted... I'm curious as to what kind of illiterate moron decided to drop the first initial from the name of one of the greatest authors in American history?

 
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Topic: Re: Scott Fitzgerald or F. Scott Fitzgerald?

Message 5 / 5
Gabriel RothMar 14, 2010
 
 
In case anyone actually cares about this issue: Fitzgerald went by 'Scott' or 'Scottie.' I've heard many highly literate Americans (writers, English professors) refer to him without the first initial. Hemingway referred to him that way in letters and interviews. Here are two citations from scholarly works:

http://books.google.com/books?id=cuM6RAO9DxUC&lpg=PA152&ots=TdBe0-4EU7&dq=hemingway%20%22scott%20fitzgerald%22%20-f.&pg=PA152#v=onepage&q=hemingway%20%22scott%20fitzgerald%22%20-f.&f=false

http://www.jstor.org/pss/25087211

But maybe this is just an opportunity for you guys to get into dumb fights with each other, in which case don't let me stop you.

gr.





On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 4:40 PM, kj.naughton <kj.naughton@...> wrote:
 

If this *is* a genuine query, then the only answer can be "the type of illiterate moron that works for the BBC". However if, as seems likely, it's an observation to post a message containing another dig at Nicholas Parsons then I shall assume it was a rhetorical question.

My reaction to your continuous attacks on Nicholas Parsons has varied from mild amusement to mild annoyance. I have no strong feelings either way on Nicholas. However now you've decided to combine this with the multiple expletives contained in the original post, I've now added you to my blocked email address list. Replying to me is pointless - I won't receive it.

kJ

--- In just-a-minute@..., "Bobby" <bobbyshaddoe3004@...> wrote:
>
> This is just a genuine query that has me truly and utterly flabbergasted... I'm curious as to what kind of illiterate moron decided to drop the first initial from the name of one of the greatest authors in American history?



 
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