--- In just-a-minute@..., "delmelza" <delmelza@...> wrote:
>
> found this via the British comedy Twitters
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/7505101/Rule-change-proposed-for-competitive-Radio-4s-Just-a-Minute.html
>
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 7:37 AM, delmelza <delmelza@...> wrote:found this via the British comedy Twitters
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/7505101/Rule-change-proposed-for-competitive-Radio-4s-Just-a-Minute.html
It's funny you say that - I've always thought that would be a good rule.
I'm not sure it happens often enough - or that the points are important enough - to make a real difference though.
On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 11:14:32 +1100, Mark <nylon@...> wrote:
All they have to do is give a bonus point if someone finishes 60 seconds without a valid challenge.
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 7:37 AM, delmelza <delmelza@yahoo.> wrote:found this via the British comedy Twitters
http://www.telegrap
--- In just-a-minute@..., <dbedford@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> It's funny you say that - I've always thought that would be a good rule.
>
>
> I'm not sure it happens often enough - or that the points are important
> enough - to make a real difference though.
>
> On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 11:14:32
> +1100, Mark wrote:
>
> All they have to do is give a bonus point if
> someone finishes 60 seconds without a VALID challenge. On Thu, Mar 25, 2010
> at 7:37 AM, delmelza [2]
>
>
>
>
>
> Links:
> ------
> [1]
> mailto:delmelza@...
> [2]
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/7505101/Rule-change-proposed-for-competitive-Radio-4s-Just-a-Minute.html
> [3]
> mailto:nylon@...?subject=Re: [just-a-minute] Rule Changes for
> JAM?
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I should think that they should reinstate the position that no challenges should be allowed for small words like 'we' 'he' she' 'in' 'on', etc. but even back then it was something of a slippery slope where sometimes they would allow it, sometimes they wouldn't. One thing I think they should definitely do is bar the challenge on repetition of 'I'. regarding the notion of having points taken away for incorrect challenges, that i'm not so keen on. --- On Wed, 3/24/10, Mark <nylon@...> wrote:
|
--- In just-a-minute@..., Robert Torres <bobbyshaddoe3004@...> wrote:
>
> I should think that they should reinstate the position that no challenges should be allowed for small words like 'we' 'he' she' 'in' 'on', etc. but even back then it was something of a slippery slope where sometimes they would allow it, sometimes they wouldn't. One thing I think they should definitely do is bar the challenge on repetition of 'I'.
>
> regarding the notion of having points taken away for incorrect challenges, that i'm not so keen on.
>
>
> --- On Wed, 3/24/10, Mark <nylon@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Mark <nylon@...>
> Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Rule Changes for JAM?
> To: just-a-minute@...
> Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 8:14 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> All they have to do is give a bonus point if someone finishes 60 seconds without a valid challenge.
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 7:37 AM, delmelza <delmelza@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> found this via the British comedy Twitters
>
> http://www.telegrap h.co.uk/culture/ tvandradio/ 7505101/Rule- change-proposed- for-competitive- Radio-4s- Just-a-Minute. html
>
--- In just-a-minute@..., "delmelza" <delmelza@...> wrote:
>
> found this via the British comedy Twitters
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/7505101/Rule-change-proposed-for-competitive-Radio-4s-Just-a-Minute.html
>
--- In just-a-minute@..., "Schnacken" <schnacken@...> wrote:
>
> A change of the rules? WHY?
> Being one of the "million listeners abroad", I admire N. Parsons for making this show with this minimalistic set of rules. I think he got a little bit mellow over the last years, stressing the point that "all are winners" etc. But the show needs players willing to compete (think of Sir Clement!)
>
> OTOH, the low points of the current series may have been the two recordings with Tony Hawks, Josie Lawrence, Dave Gorman and Justin Moorhouse - here, the players were overly jealous.
>
> But even the "low points" were very entertaining!
>
> As for Sue Perkins: While I love JAM, my sister is not such big a fan - she thinks that the women at the show are discriminated against, especially when it comes to "the benefit of a doubt". Sue is a wonderful player, but sometimes, she seems to get a little bit frustrated.
>
> That was my first rant on this forum. Therefore, I just want to add: Thank you all for your dedication, especially for uploading all the episodes. I know, it may be anathema, but I'm a post-Kenneth-Williams listener: I just like the "newer" episodes better.
>
> Thanks again
> Schnacken
> --- In just-a-minute@..., "delmelza" <delmelza@> wrote:
> >
> > found this via the British comedy Twitters
> >
> > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/7505101/Rule-change-proposed-for-competitive-Radio-4s-Just-a-Minute.html
> >
>
why single Sue Perkins out for that, the same could be said about practically anyone on the show, including the late Sir Clement Freud. During his later years leading up to his death, he seemed to make pointless interruptions all the time, many of which weren't all that clever and seemed always to be for a cheap point. --- On Thu, 3/25/10, Steven <stevenwickham@...> wrote: |
> why single Sue Perkins out for that,
Steven is right to single her out, because she is among the worst, if not THE worst offender.
Robert, you lose all credibility if you try and compare the antics of La Perkins with those of Clement Freud’s. The added value provided by Sir Clement’s other contributions made his “pointless” interruptions pale into insignificance. Unfortunately for La Perkins, she doesn’t have much added value, so her “pointless” interruptions are more obvious. To sum up, she isn’t in the same league as Freud.
The other thing about La Perkins that I find deeply irritating is that she is always trying to be “one of the lads”. Lower her voice by an octave or so and you could believe she was a man. As she calls herself an actress amongst other things, you would think that occasionally she could get in touch with her feminine side.
From:
just-a-minute@... [mailto:
just-a-minute@... ] On Behalf Of Robert Torres
Sent: 27 March 2010 02:48
To: just-a-minute@...
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re:
Rule Changes for JAM?
why single Sue Perkins out for that, the same could
be said about practically anyone on the show, including the late Sir Clement
Freud. During his later years leading up to his death, he seemed to
make pointless interruptions all the time, many of which weren't all that
clever and seemed always to be for a cheap point.
There are some players
whose constant stupid interruptions for a cheap point when nothing has
happened do spoil some shows... stand forward Miss Perkins. |
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--- In just-a-minute@..., "Steve Kenrick" <steve.kenrick@...> wrote:
>
> > why single Sue Perkins out for that,
>
>
>
> Steven is right to single her out, because she is among the worst, if not
> THE worst offender.
>
>
>
> Robert, you lose all credibility if you try and compare the antics of La
> Perkins with those of Clement Freud's. The added value provided by Sir
> Clement's other contributions made his "pointless" interruptions pale into
> insignificance. Unfortunately for La Perkins, she doesn't have much added
> value, so her "pointless" interruptions are more obvious. To sum up, she
> isn't in the same league as Freud.
>
>
>
> The other thing about La Perkins that I find deeply irritating is that she
> is always trying to be "one of the lads". Lower her voice by an octave or
> so and you could believe she was a man. As she calls herself an actress
> amongst other things, you would think that occasionally she could get in
> touch with her feminine side.
>
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: just-a-minute@... [mailto:just-a-minute@...]
> On Behalf Of Robert Torres
> Sent: 27 March 2010 02:48
> To: just-a-minute@...
> Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: Rule Changes for JAM?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> why single Sue Perkins out for that, the same could be said about
> practically anyone on the show, including the late Sir Clement Freud.
> During his later years leading up to his death, he seemed to make pointless
> interruptions all the time, many of which weren't all that clever and seemed
> always to be for a cheap point.
>
> --- On Thu, 3/25/10, Steven <stevenwickham@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Steven <stevenwickham@...>
> Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: Rule Changes for JAM?
> To: just-a-minute@...
> Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 5:41 PM
>
>
>
> There are some players whose constant stupid interruptions for a cheap point
> when nothing has happened do spoil some shows... stand forward Miss Perkins.
>
> --- In just-a-minute@
> <http://us.mc540.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=just-a-minute%40yahoogroups.co
> m> yahoogroups. com, Robert Torres <bobbyshaddoe3004@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > I should think that they should reinstate the position that no challenges
> should be allowed for small words like 'we' 'he' she' 'in' 'on', etc. but
> even back then it was something of a slippery slope where sometimes they
> would allow it, sometimes they wouldn't. One thing I think they should
> definitely do is bar the challenge on repetition of 'I'.
> >
> > regarding the notion of having points taken away for incorrect challenges,
> that i'm not so keen on.
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 3/24/10, Mark <nylon@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Mark <nylon@>
> > Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Rule Changes for JAM?
> > To: just-a-minute@
> <http://us.mc540.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=just-a-minute%40yahoogroups.co
> m> yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 8:14 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > All they have to do is give a bonus point if someone finishes 60 seconds
> without a valid challenge.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 7:37 AM, delmelza <delmelza@yahoo. com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > found this via the British comedy Twitters
> >
> > http://www.telegrap <http://www.telegrap/> h.co.uk/culture/ tvandradio/
> 7505101/Rule- change-proposed- for-competitive- Radio-4s- Just-a-Minute.
> html
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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Of course it’s my opinion that anyone who thinks that Perkins deserves to have her performance compared with that of Freud loses credibility.
It’s always going to be a poster’s opinion unless the point of the post involves a fact that can be proven or otherwise.
Surely that goes without saying.
Ok?
From:
just-a-minute@... [mailto:
just-a-minute@... ] On Behalf Of Paul
Sent: 28 March 2010 10:43
To: just-a-minute@...
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: Rule
Changes for JAM?
I don't think we should go into whether someone loses
creditability or not, it suggests that some of us had it in the first place...
It's much better to say: I disagree, or on the contrary, just to show that it's
an opinion thing.
--- In just-a-minute@ yahoogroups. com,
"Steve Kenrick" <steve.kenrick@ ...> wrote: >
pale into
> > why single Sue Perkins out for that,
>
>
>
> Steven is right to single her out, because she is among the worst, if not
> THE worst offender.
>
>
>
> Robert, you lose all credibility if you try and compare the antics of La
> Perkins with those of Clement Freud's. The added value provided by Sir
> Clement's other contributions made his "pointless" interruptions
> insignificance. Unfortunately for La Perkins, she doesn't have much added
up, she
> value, so her "pointless" interruptions are more obvious. To sum
> isn't in the same league as Freud.
octave or
>
>
>
> The other thing about La Perkins that I find deeply irritating is that she
> is always trying to be "one of the lads". Lower her voice by an
> so and you could believe she was a man. As she calls herself an actress
[mailto:just-a-minute@ yahoogroups. com]
> amongst other things, you would think that occasionally she could get in
> touch with her feminine side.
>
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: just-a-minute@ yahoogroups. com
> On Behalf Of Robert Torres
pointless
> Sent: 27 March 2010 02:48
> To: just-a-minute@ yahoogroups. com
> Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: Rule Changes for JAM?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> why single Sue Perkins out for that, the same could be said about
> practically anyone on the show, including the late Sir Clement Freud.
> During his later years leading up to his death, he seemed to make
> interruptions all the time, many of which weren't all that clever and
seemed > always to be for a cheap point.
point
>
> --- On Thu, 3/25/10, Steven <stevenwickham@ ...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Steven <stevenwickham@ ...>
> Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: Rule Changes for JAM?
> To: just-a-minute@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 5:41 PM
>
>
>
> There are some players whose constant stupid interruptions for a cheap
> when nothing has happened do spoil some shows... stand forward Miss
Perkins. >
href="http://us.mc540.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=just-a-minute%40yahoogroups.co">http://us.mc540. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=just-a- minute%40yahoogr oups.co
> --- In just-a-minute@
> < > m> yahoogroups. com, Robert Torres <bobbyshaddoe3004@ ...> wrote:
challenges
> >
> > I should think that they should reinstate the position that no
> should be allowed for small words like 'we' 'he' she' 'in' 'on', etc. but
challenges,
> even back then it was something of a slippery slope where sometimes they
> would allow it, sometimes they wouldn't. One thing I think they should
> definitely do is bar the challenge on repetition of 'I'.
> >
> > regarding the notion of having points taken away for incorrect
> that i'm not so keen on.
href="http://us.mc540.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=just-a-minute%40yahoogroups.co">http://us.mc540. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=just-a- minute%40yahoogr oups.co
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 3/24/10, Mark <nylon@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Mark <nylon@>
> > Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Rule Changes for JAM?
> > To: just-a-minute@
> < > m> yahoogroups. com
seconds
> > Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 8:14 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > All they have to do is give a bonus point if someone finishes 60
> without a valid challenge.
wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 7:37 AM, delmelza <delmelza@yahoo. com>
> >
href="http://www.telegrap/">http://www.telegrap /> h.co.uk/culture/
tvandradio/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > found this via the British comedy Twitters
> >
> > http://www.telegrap < > 7505101/Rule- change-proposed- for-competitive- Radio-4s- Just-a-Minute.
> html
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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I disagree. Sue Perkins isn't the worst offender in making pointless challenges and interruptions. Clement Freud was the only person I could think of at the moment, largely because during the latter years of his life, he did seem to make a lot of pointless challenges namely because he hadn't 'said anything yet'. And I don't think Sue is trying to be 'one of the lads', she is trying to be 'part of the game'. I rather like Sue's contributions, because they are entertaining and clever. perhaps she's a bit trigger happy, but she's just keen to get in a say something, as are a lot of people. At least Sue doesn't use a cheap tactic like stringing out endless lists of things that have no connection to the subject whatsoever the way Sir Clement used to do. I mean honestly, 'Hartfordshire, Herodfordshire, Lancanshire, Manchester...' that's not funny or clever. --- On Sat, 3/27/10, Steve Kenrick <steve.kenrick@...> wrote:
|
>into
>
> Of course its my opinion that anyone who thinks that Perkins deserves
> to have her performance compared with that of Freud loses credibility.
>
>
>
> Its always going to be a posters opinion unless the point of the post
> involves a fact that can be proven or otherwise.
>
>
>
> Surely that goes without saying.
>
>
>
> Ok?
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:* just-a-minute@...
> [mailto:just-a-minute@...] *On Behalf Of *Paul
> *Sent:* 28 March 2010 10:43
> *To:* just-a-minute@...
> *Subject:* [just-a-minute] Re: Rule Changes for JAM?
>
>
>
>
>
> I don't think we should go into whether someone loses creditability or
> not, it suggests that some of us had it in the first place... It's much
> better to say: I disagree, or on the contrary, just to show that it's an
> opinion thing.
>
> --- In just-a-minute@...
> <mailto:just-a-minute%40yahoogroups.com>, "Steve Kenrick"
> <steve.kenrick@...> wrote:
>>
>> > why single Sue Perkins out for that,
>>
>>
>>
>> Steven is right to single her out, because she is among the worst, if not
>> THE worst offender.
>>
>>
>>
>> Robert, you lose all credibility if you try and compare the antics of La
>> Perkins with those of Clement Freud's. The added value provided by Sir
>> Clement's other contributions made his "pointless" interruptions pale
>> insignificance. Unfortunately for La Perkins, she doesn't have much addedshe
>> value, so her "pointless" interruptions are more obvious. To sum up, she
>> isn't in the same league as Freud.
>>
>>
>>
>> The other thing about La Perkins that I find deeply irritating is that
>> is always trying to be "one of the lads". Lower her voice by an octave or<mailto:just-a-minute%40yahoogroups.com>
>> so and you could believe she was a man. As she calls herself an actress
>> amongst other things, you would think that occasionally she could get in
>> touch with her feminine side.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
>> From: just-a-minute@...
> <mailto:just-a-minute%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:just-a-minute@...
> <mailto:just-a-minute%40yahoogroups.com>]
>> On Behalf Of Robert Torres
>> Sent: 27 March 2010 02:48
>> To: just-a-minute@...
>> Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: Rule Changes for JAM?pointless
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> why single Sue Perkins out for that, the same could be said about
>> practically anyone on the show, including the late Sir Clement Freud.
>> During his later years leading up to his death, he seemed to make
>> interruptions all the time, many of which weren't all that clever and<mailto:just-a-minute%40yahoogroups.com>
> seemed
>> always to be for a cheap point.
>>
>> --- On Thu, 3/25/10, Steven <stevenwickham@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Steven <stevenwickham@...>
>> Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: Rule Changes for JAM?
>> To: just-a-minute@...
>> Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 5:41 PM<http://us.mc540.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=just-a-minute%40yahoogroups.co
>>
>>
>>
>> There are some players whose constant stupid interruptions for a cheap
> point
>> when nothing has happened do spoil some shows... stand forward Miss
> Perkins.
>>
>> --- In just-a-minute@
>>
>challenges
>> m> yahoogroups. com, Robert Torres <bobbyshaddoe3004@ ...> wrote:
>> >
>> > I should think that they should reinstate the position that no
>> should be allowed for small words like 'we' 'he' she' 'in' 'on', etc.but
>> even back then it was something of a slippery slope where sometimes they<http://us.mc540.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=just-a-minute%40yahoogroups.co
>> would allow it, sometimes they wouldn't. One thing I think they should
>> definitely do is bar the challenge on repetition of 'I'.
>> >
>> > regarding the notion of having points taken away for incorrect
> challenges,
>> that i'm not so keen on.
>> >
>> >
>> > --- On Wed, 3/24/10, Mark <nylon@> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > From: Mark <nylon@>
>> > Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Rule Changes for JAM?
>> > To: just-a-minute@
>>
>seconds
>> m> yahoogroups. com
>> > Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 8:14 PM
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > All they have to do is give a bonus point if someone finishes 60
>> without a valid challenge.No virus found in this incoming message.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 7:37 AM, delmelza <delmelza@yahoo. com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > found this via the British comedy Twitters
>> >
>> > http://www.telegrap <http://www.telegrap/ <http://www.telegrap/>>
> h.co.uk/culture/ tvandradio/
>> 7505101/Rule- change-proposed- for-competitive- Radio-4s- Just-a-Minute.
>> html
>> >
>>
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Well you can think that you’re right about Perkins and so can I. That’s done with then.
However, you seem to be in a minority of one re Freud’s listing. The reactions of the audiences and the other panellists to Clement’s individual way of playing indicate to me that they did find it both funny and clever. There was only one panelist who continuously bleated about the listing being unfair or whatever, and that was Wendy Richard.
The views of the majority aren’t always right but with their appreciation of Freud, the majority was spot on.
From:
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just-a-minute@... ] On Behalf Of Robert Torres
Sent: 29 March 2010 15:35
To: just-a-minute@...
Subject: RE: [just-a-minute] Re:
Rule Changes for JAM?
I disagree. Sue Perkins isn't the worst offender in making pointless challenges and interruptions. Clement Freud was the only person I could think of at the moment, largely because during the latter years of his life, he did seem to make a lot of pointless challenges namely because he hadn't 'said anything yet'.
And I don't think Sue is trying to be 'one of the lads', she is trying to be 'part of the game'.
I rather like Sue's contributions, because they are entertaining and clever. perhaps she's a bit trigger happy, but she's just keen to get in a say something, as are a lot of people. At least Sue doesn't use a cheap tactic like stringing out endless lists of things that have no connection to the subject whatsoever the way Sir Clement used to do. I mean honestly, 'Hartfordshire, Herodfordshire, Lancanshire, Manchester .. .' that's not funny or clever.
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--- In just-a-minute@..., "Steve Kenrick" <steve.kenrick@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for your opinion Espen.
>
> I had to smile at the irony of you mailing to the list rather than me
> directly.
>
> I suppose we all want our words of wisdom to be read by the masses.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Espen K [mailto:beamboom@...] On Behalf Of Espen Krømke
> Sent: 29 March 2010 16:50
> Cc: Steve Kenrick
> Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: Rule Changes for JAM?
>
> And this is the point in the discussion where you should have
> self-credibility enough to take this bickering OFF the list and mail the
> victim directly.
>
>
>
> Den 28. mars 2010 11:50, skrev Steve Kenrick:
> >
> >
> > Of course it's my opinion that anyone who thinks that Perkins deserves
> > to have her performance compared with that of Freud loses credibility.
> >
> >
> >
> > It's always going to be a poster's opinion unless the point of the post
> > involves a fact that can be proven or otherwise.
> >
> >
> >
> > Surely that goes without saying.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ok?
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > *From:* just-a-minute@...
> > [mailto:just-a-minute@...] *On Behalf Of *Paul
> > *Sent:* 28 March 2010 10:43
> > *To:* just-a-minute@...
> > *Subject:* [just-a-minute] Re: Rule Changes for JAM?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't think we should go into whether someone loses creditability or
> > not, it suggests that some of us had it in the first place... It's much
> > better to say: I disagree, or on the contrary, just to show that it's an
> > opinion thing.
> >
> > --- In just-a-minute@...
> > <mailto:just-a-minute%40yahoogroups.com>, "Steve Kenrick"
> > <steve.kenrick@> wrote:
> >>
> >> > why single Sue Perkins out for that,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Steven is right to single her out, because she is among the worst, if not
> >> THE worst offender.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Robert, you lose all credibility if you try and compare the antics of La
> >> Perkins with those of Clement Freud's. The added value provided by Sir
> >> Clement's other contributions made his "pointless" interruptions pale
> into
> >> insignificance. Unfortunately for La Perkins, she doesn't have much added
> >> value, so her "pointless" interruptions are more obvious. To sum up, she
> >> isn't in the same league as Freud.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The other thing about La Perkins that I find deeply irritating is that
> she
> >> is always trying to be "one of the lads". Lower her voice by an octave or
> >> so and you could believe she was a man. As she calls herself an actress
> >> amongst other things, you would think that occasionally she could get in
> >> touch with her feminine side.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _____
> >>
> >> From: just-a-minute@...
> > <mailto:just-a-minute%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:just-a-minute@...
> > <mailto:just-a-minute%40yahoogroups.com>]
> >> On Behalf Of Robert Torres
> >> Sent: 27 March 2010 02:48
> >> To: just-a-minute@...
> <mailto:just-a-minute%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: Rule Changes for JAM?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> why single Sue Perkins out for that, the same could be said about
> >> practically anyone on the show, including the late Sir Clement Freud.
> >> During his later years leading up to his death, he seemed to make
> pointless
> >> interruptions all the time, many of which weren't all that clever and
> > seemed
> >> always to be for a cheap point.
> >>
> >> --- On Thu, 3/25/10, Steven <stevenwickham@> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Steven <stevenwickham@>
> >> Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: Rule Changes for JAM?
> >> To: just-a-minute@...
> <mailto:just-a-minute%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 5:41 PM
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> There are some players whose constant stupid interruptions for a cheap
> > point
> >> when nothing has happened do spoil some shows... stand forward Miss
> > Perkins.
> >>
> >> --- In just-a-minute@
> >>
> <http://us.mc540.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=just-a-minute%40yahoogroups.co
> <http://us.mc540.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=just-a-minute%40yahoogroups.co
> >
> >> m> yahoogroups. com, Robert Torres <bobbyshaddoe3004@ ...> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I should think that they should reinstate the position that no
> challenges
> >> should be allowed for small words like 'we' 'he' she' 'in' 'on', etc.
> but
> >> even back then it was something of a slippery slope where sometimes they
> >> would allow it, sometimes they wouldn't. One thing I think they should
> >> definitely do is bar the challenge on repetition of 'I'.
> >> >
> >> > regarding the notion of having points taken away for incorrect
> > challenges,
> >> that i'm not so keen on.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --- On Wed, 3/24/10, Mark <nylon@> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > From: Mark <nylon@>
> >> > Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Rule Changes for JAM?
> >> > To: just-a-minute@
> >>
> <http://us.mc540.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=just-a-minute%40yahoogroups.co
> <http://us.mc540.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=just-a-minute%40yahoogroups.co
> >
> >> m> yahoogroups. com
> >> > Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 8:14 PM
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > All they have to do is give a bonus point if someone finishes 60
> seconds
> >> without a valid challenge.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 7:37 AM, delmelza <delmelza@yahoo. com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > found this via the British comedy Twitters
> >> >
> >> > http://www.telegrap <http://www.telegrap/ <http://www.telegrap/>>
> > h.co.uk/culture/ tvandradio/
> >> 7505101/Rule- change-proposed- for-competitive- Radio-4s- Just-a-Minute.
> >> html
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Hello cat,
Nice to hear from you again. You almost gave me the opportunity to make a joke about the fact that I went to a boys only school, but as it wasn’t in Croydon, I shan’t bother.
First of all I’d like to point out for anybody who might be interested that Espen and I have cleared up our little misunderstanding off-list.
Now, you ask, “why all the vitriol?” What you call vitriol, I call plain speaking served sometimes with a garnish of sarcasm.
Enough said except for two things I have to ask.
Some months back, a number of posts appeared here containing views and opinions that were unjust, rude, unkind and even cruel about Nicholas Parsons. Did you ask that poster, “why all the vitriol?”? If not, why not?
From:
just-a-minute@... [mailto:
just-a-minute@... ] On Behalf Of lapsedcat
Sent: 30 March 2010 08:04
To: just-a-minute@...
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: Rule
Changes for JAM?
Steve,
You're fully entitled to your opinion of Susan Perkins (indeed, I'm sure I'm
not wrong in recalling an earlier critique of her style which managed to
shoehorn in a veiled reference to her sexuality), and some of what you say may
be valid, but why all the vitriol? Did you go to school with her in Croydon or
something?
--- In just-a-minute@ yahoogroups. com,
"Steve Kenrick" <steve.kenrick@ ...> wrote: >
deserves
> Thanks for your opinion Espen.
>
> I had to smile at the irony of you mailing to the list rather than me
> directly.
>
> I suppose we all want our words of wisdom to be read by the masses.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Espen K [mailto:beamboom@ ...] On Behalf Of Espen Krømke
> Sent: 29 March 2010 16:50
> Cc: Steve Kenrick
> Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: Rule Changes for JAM?
>
> And this is the point in the discussion where you should have
> self-credibility enough to take this bickering OFF the list and mail the
> victim directly.
>
>
>
> Den 28. mars 2010 11:50, skrev Steve Kenrick:
> >
> >
> > Of course it's my opinion that anyone who thinks that Perkins
> > to have her performance compared with that of Freud loses
credibility. > >
post
> >
> >
> > It's always going to be a poster's opinion unless the point of the
> > involves a fact that can be proven or otherwise.
*On Behalf Of *Paul
> >
> >
> >
> > Surely that goes without saying.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ok?
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
> >
> > *From:* just-a-minute@ yahoogroups. com
> > [mailto:just-a-minute@ yahoogroups. com]
> > *Sent:* 28 March 2010 10:43
or
> > *To:* just-a-minute@ yahoogroups. com
> > *Subject:* [just-a-minute] Re: Rule Changes for JAM?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't think we should go into whether someone loses creditability
> > not, it suggests that some of us had it in the first place... It's
much > > better to say: I disagree, or on the contrary, just to show that it's
an > > opinion thing.
"Steve Kenrick"
> >
> > --- In just-a-minute@ yahoogroups. com
> > <mailto:just- a-minute% 40yahoogroups. com>,
> > <steve.kenrick@ > wrote:
worst, if not
> >>
> >> > why single Sue Perkins out for that,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Steven is right to single her out, because she is among the
> >> THE worst offender.
antics of La
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Robert, you lose all credibility if you try and compare the
> >> Perkins with those of Clement Freud's. The added value provided
by Sir > >> Clement's other contributions made his "pointless" interruptions
pale > into
much added
> >> insignificance. Unfortunately for La Perkins, she doesn't have
> >> value, so her "pointless" interruptions are more
obvious. To sum up, she > >> isn't in the same league as Freud.
that
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The other thing about La Perkins that I find deeply irritating is
> she
voice by an octave or
> >> is always trying to be "one of the lads". Lower her
> >> so and you could believe she was a man. As she calls herself an
actress > >> amongst other things, you would think that occasionally she could
get in > >> touch with her feminine side.
Freud.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _____
> >>
> >> From: just-a-minute@ yahoogroups. com
> > <mailto:just- a-minute% 40yahoogroups. com>
> > [mailto:just-a-minute@ yahoogroups. com
> > <mailto:just- a-minute% 40yahoogroups. com>]
> >> On Behalf Of Robert Torres
> >> Sent: 27 March 2010 02:48
> >> To: just-a-minute@ yahoogroups. com
> <mailto:just- a-minute% 40yahoogroups. com>
> >> Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: Rule Changes for JAM?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> why single Sue Perkins out for that, the same could be said about
> >> practically anyone on the show, including the late Sir Clement
> >> During his later years leading up to his death, he seemed to make
and
> pointless
> >> interruptions all the time, many of which weren't all that clever
> > seemed
cheap
> >> always to be for a cheap point.
> >>
> >> --- On Thu, 3/25/10, Steven <stevenwickham@ > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Steven <stevenwickham@ >
> >> Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: Rule Changes for JAM?
> >> To: just-a-minute@ yahoogroups. com
> <mailto:just- a-minute% 40yahoogroups. com>
> >> Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 5:41 PM
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> There are some players whose constant stupid interruptions for a
> > point
Miss
> >> when nothing has happened do spoil some shows... stand forward
> > Perkins.
href="http://us.mc540.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=just-a-minute%40yahoogroups.co">http://us.mc540. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=just-a- minute%40yahoogr oups.co
> >>
> >> --- In just-a-minute@
> >>
> < > <
href="http://us.mc540.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=just-a-minute%40yahoogroups.co">http://us.mc540. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=just-a- minute%40yahoogr oups.co > >
...> wrote:
> >> m> yahoogroups. com, Robert Torres <bobbyshaddoe3004@
> >> >
no
> >> > I should think that they should reinstate the position that
> challenges
etc.
> >> should be allowed for small words like 'we' 'he' she' 'in' 'on',
> but
sometimes they
> >> even back then it was something of a slippery slope where
> >> would allow it, sometimes they wouldn't. One thing I think they
should > >> definitely do is bar the challenge on repetition of 'I'.
incorrect
> >> >
> >> > regarding the notion of having points taken away for
> > challenges,
href="http://us.mc540.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=just-a-minute%40yahoogroups.co">http://us.mc540. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=just-a- minute%40yahoogr oups.co
> >> that i'm not so keen on.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --- On Wed, 3/24/10, Mark <nylon@> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > From: Mark <nylon@>
> >> > Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Rule Changes for JAM?
> >> > To: just-a-minute@
> >>
> < > <
href="http://us.mc540.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=just-a-minute%40yahoogroups.co">http://us.mc540. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=just-a- minute%40yahoogr oups.co > >
finishes 60
> >> m> yahoogroups. com
> >> > Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 8:14 PM
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > All they have to do is give a bonus point if someone
> seconds
<delmelza@yahoo. com> wrote:
> >> without a valid challenge.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 7:37 AM, delmelza
> >> >
href="http://www.telegrap/">http://www.telegrap / <http://www.telegrap />>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > found this via the British comedy Twitters
> >> >
> >> > http://www.telegrap < > > h.co.uk/culture/ tvandradio/
Just-a-Minute.
> >> 7505101/Rule- change-proposed- for-competitive- Radio-4s-
> >> html
03/26/10
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> >> Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2771 - Release Date:
> >> 07:33:00
03/27/10
> >>
> >
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> > 20:32:00
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> >
>
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--- In just-a-minute@..., "Steve Kenrick" <steve.kenrick@...> wrote:
>
> Some months back, a number of posts appeared here containing views and
> opinions that were unjust, rude, unkind and even cruel about Nicholas
> Parsons. Did you ask that poster, "why all the vitriol?"? If not, why not?
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