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Topic: Welcome to The JAM bar! :)

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Matthew ChinnMay 27, 2010
 

 

 
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Espen KrømkeMay 28, 2010
 

 
Den 28. mai 2010 07:16, skrev Matthew Chinn:

 

Terrific idea, thanks Espen. Couldn’t get it to agree with Windows Media Player but on iTunes it works a treat.

Thanks alot for that user feedback, Matthew.

Much bad could be said about Windows media player, but Microsoft is at least consistent in their work and ensure their media player is just as bloated, uncooperative, arrogant and downright *stupid* as their other web applications.
I have no computers with windows nearby so I can't get this confirmed right now but I would bet my tresured collection of RC cars that the Microsoft player will accept the stream if you do not distract it with anything else than the port number, hence:
http://stream. beatradar. com:8005

 
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Robert TorresMay 28, 2010
 

 

i remember there was a Whose Line is it Anyway website, i think it was called the Idiotsite.com or something like that, that used to do the same thing.  well, they used to stream random clips from various segments of Whose Line, both the original UK version and the one as done by Drew Carey.  mostly the clips were ones that could be easily translate to the audio medium, like many of the song styles and so on.  it was awesome,  i hope this works just as well.  :) --- On Fri, 5/28/10, Dean <dbedford@...> wrote: From: Dean <dbedford@...> Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Welcome to The JAM bar! :) To: just-a-minute@... Date: Friday, May 28, 2010, 2:12 PM   I agree - outstanding idea!   good on you!       From: Mark Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 3:27 PM To: just-a-minute@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Welcome to The JAM bar! :)   Wow.  Radio JAM.  What a great idea! On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 8:19 PM, Espen Krømke <espen.kromke@ beatradar. no> wrote:   Just as an experiment I've put up shoutcast server that streams JAM continuously as long as it's connected to the net. On the playlist is every episode from 1980 up until today, in random order just to add to the excitement ;) If you want some background entertainment the address to the stream is: http://stream. beatradar. com:8005/ listen.pls Or search for "Just a Minute" at www.shoutcast. com or in your favorite media player. Server info found here: http://stream. beatradar. com:8005/ index.html If you do try to connect it would be cool if you mailed me a quick mail just to say if it was successful or choppy/no audio. The server itself is nothing more than one of those tiny Asus EeePCs on a *wireless* connection, two walls away from the router so this is indeed a test on "how low can you go"... :D

 
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Espen KrømkeMay 28, 2010
 

 
It's fun to read the enthusiasm about a JAM webradio! As I said initially the stream as it is today is not a permanent solution, it's just me having one of those "what if I... Would that even work ?" moments.
But it's no problem for me to move the stream to a suitable server if that's wanted! And even cooler, If some of you have the skills and motivation to create some radio jingles, promoting the yahoo group, deans website and such things, that'd add some personality to the station. :)




Den 28. mai 2010 14:57, skrev Robert Torres:

 

i remember there was a Whose Line is it Anyway website, i think it was called the Idiotsite.com or something like that, that used to do the same thing.  well, they used to stream random clips from various segments of Whose Line, both the original UK version and the one as done by Drew Carey.  mostly the clips were ones that could be easily translate to the audio medium, like many of the song styles and so on.  it was awesome,  i hope this works just as well.  :)

 
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DeanMay 29, 2010
 

 
 

 
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Espen KrømkeMay 28, 2010
 

 
I did mention the MS media player URL in some mail earlier, but should of course also have added instruction on how to start the player.
The description your reader gave on how to listen using Real player is relevant for all players, that's how you open the stream in any player (with the exception of microsoft media player, that require a slightly different address). I should have included such an instruction in my first mail, sorry about that.

It is also easy to embed the stream into a webpage so that it starts playing whenever someone visit that page.






Den 29. mai 2010 17:27, skrev Dean:

 

Someone said they couldn't get it to work in the windows player - but someone on my blog has!

 

Sebastian writes

 

To open in Windows Media Player, click on 'File', click on 'Open URL...', paste in this:

http://stream. beatradar. com:8005/

and click, 'OK'.

To open in Real Player, click on 'File', click on 'Open...', paste in this:

http://stream. beatradar. com:8005/ listen.pls

and click 'OK'.

From: Espen Krømke

Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 12:14 PM

To: just-a-minute@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Welcome to The JAM bar! :)

 

It's fun to read the enthusiasm about a JAM webradio! As I said initially the stream as it is today is not a permanent solution, it's just me having one of those "what if I... Would that even work ?" moments.
But it's no problem for me to move the stream to a suitable server if that's wanted! And even cooler, If some of you have the skills and motivation to create some radio jingles, promoting the yahoo group, deans website and such things, that'd add some personality to the station. :)




Den 28. mai 2010 14:57, skrev Robert Torres:

 

i remember there was a Whose Line is it Anyway website, i think it was called the Idiotsite.com or something like that, that used to do the same thing.  well, they used to stream random clips from various segments of Whose Line, both the original UK version and the one as done by Drew Carey.  mostly the clips were ones that could be easily translate to the audio medium, like many of the song styles and so on.  it was awesome,  i hope this works just as well.  :)

 
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DeanMay 29, 2010
 

 

 
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Julian PersonalMay 29, 2010
 

 

 

Just as an experiment I've put up shoutcast server that streams JAM
continuously as long as it's connected to the net. On the playlist is
every episode from 1980 up until today, in random order just to add to
the excitement ;)

If you want some background entertainment the address to the stream is:
http://stream.beatradar.com:8005/listen.pls
Or search for "Just a Minute" at www.shoutcast.com or in your favorite
media player.

Server info found here:
http://stream.beatradar.com:8005/index.html

If you do try to connect it would be cool if you mailed me a quick mail
just to say if it was successful or choppy/no audio.

The server itself is nothing more than one of those tiny Asus EeePCs on
a *wireless* connection, two walls away from the router so this is
indeed a test on "how low can you go"... :D

 
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Espen KrømkeMay 29, 2010
 

 
Den 29. mai 2010 19:55, skrev Dean:

> cool - can you set out how to do that, that would be a help to me.
>

Sure!
But before we go any further I need to do a proper setup of our newborn
JAM station. I do not think you guys fully realize the fragility, or
even insanity, of the current server. We are talking about a tiny, pink
colored(!) 10" laptop located on my bedside table on a wireless
connection. It's regular use is limited to being an mp3 player and
web/mail reader. It really is quite a compliment to it's operating
system (Linux) that this works at all.

If we are to go public with this station I should also repair or remove
the poor quality/incomplete recordings from the playlist.

I'll get back to you when things are ready for launch ;)

 
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Don JudgeMay 29, 2010
 

 

 
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Espen KrømkeMay 29, 2010
 

 
Den 29. mai 2010 20:49, skrev Don Judge:

> Talking of going public - I hope it doesn't get so public that the BBC copyright lawyers get interested...
>

Personally I'm not too worried about that, if I were BBC I'd consider it
to be just free promotion for one of their shows. Especially if I make
sure to give credit where credit is due in the announcement/description
of the webradio. After all it's only reruns, they still got to air the
new episodes.
But if so happens then worst case scenario is that I receive a mail
where they ask me to shut it down. *shrugs*

... I could still create a stream that's just available for the list
members ;)

 
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DeanMay 30, 2010
 

 
 

 
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DeanMay 30, 2010
 

 
 

 
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DeanMay 30, 2010
 

 
 

 
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DeanMay 30, 2010
 

 
 

 
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ignotumMay 29, 2010
 

 

 
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kirstygoldMay 30, 2010
 

 
Hi, thanks for this. Just for feedback, I opened it first with VLC media player - where it was very choppy with metallic beeps. bits missing.

I moved over to winamp and have no problems what so ever. I'm happily listening to Garden worms. ;-)

thank you.
K

--- In just-a-minute@..., Espen Krømke <espen.kromke@...> wrote:
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>
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> If you do try to connect it would be cool if you mailed me a quick mail just to say if it was successful or choppy/no audio.
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> The server itself is nothing more than one of those tiny Asus EeePCs on a *wireless* connection, two walls away from the router so this is indeed a test on "how low can you go"... :D
>

 
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Espen KrømkeMay 30, 2010
 

 
Den 30. mai 2010 23:08, skrev Dean:

> well if they can be so easy with essentially the entire series of Have I Got News For You now being posted on Youtube - which with all due respect to Espen is an infinitely more popular site - I can't see that they would be too tetchy about this!
>

Interesting information and a very good poinyt of course. I guess that
settles the doubts about this and we can proceed. :)
This is just one of the very nice things that can be said about most
public (non commercial driven) radios, they are not so lawer happy or
egoistic about their material, but have a different attitude towards
their work.

> Would you like me to take down the blog posting?

No that does not seem to be neccesary, judging from the server logs
everything appears to be fine. An update to the blog post may be needed
when the station is moved to a different server cause I will likely
change the port used (the 8005 number in in the address) then.

 
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kj.naughtonMay 30, 2010
 

 
I'm not sure that this does settle the doubt.

The difference between Have I Got News For You on Youtube and "JaM Radio" is that the BBC makes money from releasing JaM on CD whereas there's a very limited commercial market for HIGNFY. As soon as "JaM Radio" is seen as a threat to the BBC's commercial interests, however small, you'll know about it.

I'm not familiar with what happens in Espen's country with regard to "take down notices" but I'd suggest Espen reads up on it, just in case.

I wish you luck and I hope that your service is tolerated by the BBC as it's a great idea. Just be prepared for the alternative.

kJ

--- In just-a-minute@..., Espen Krømke <espen.kromke@...> wrote:
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> Interesting information and a very good poinyt of course. I guess that
> settles the doubts about this and we can proceed. :)
> This is just one of the very nice things that can be said about most
> public (non commercial driven) radios, they are not so lawer happy or
> egoistic about their material, but have a different attitude towards
> their work.

 
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DeanMay 31, 2010
 

 
 

 
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kj.naughtonMay 30, 2010
 

 
Hi Dean,

I completely agree with you about your site and our shared files being a breach of copyright. The question is whether the copyright holder is willing to tolerate it. The BBC tends to be fairly tolerant of "fans" or "enthusiasts" sharing material. But it is their right not to be tolerant and, in a very few occasions in the past, they've taken that right and threatened legal proceedings.

It matters not what we "barrack room lawyers" say or think; it's when or if the letter from the real ones arrives. Espen should be doing this with eyes wide open and with knowledge of what might happen. Hopefully it won't and, for what it's worth, I think the BBC will probably be fine with it as it's non-commercial. But maybe they'll decide to act. As a certain youth organisation says, "be prepared".

Cheers

kJ

--- In just-a-minute@..., "Dean" <dbedford@...> wrote:
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> Well HIGNFY is just an example - point is that there is a lot of BBC TV now on YouTube including a lot of material that DEFINITELY IS for sale on DVD, indeed a lot of stuff that has clearly been copied from DVDs. And if we are talking about copyright breaches, my website should be taken down. Our file sharing is also a breach.
>
> And even if the point is commercial value, there is no commercial value in what Espen is doing. The BBC is not going to set up a 24-hour JAM station.
>
> Almost everything on YouTube is a copyright breach of some sort unless you are uploading your home video. That YouTubne continues to thrive sends some sort of message, I think.

 
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Espen KrømkeMay 30, 2010
 

 
Den 31. mai 2010 16:20, skrev Dean:

> Almost everything on YouTube is a copyright breach of some sort unless you are uploading your home video. That YouTubne continues to thrive sends some sort of message, I think.
>

It should also be added that it is *very* easy for the copyright owners
to get content removed from youtube, youtube has a policy that's pretty
much "remove first, ask later".

Anyhow, I do not think we should worry too much about this. If it
someday gets shut down then so be it. In the meantime, let's enjoy the ride.

I've had a busy weekend but I'll move the streamer to a better server
someday this week. But are there any suggestions on what we should call
the station?
I've been thinking about "The JAMmer", since it's both a reference to
JAM and a broadcast term (jammer, disrupting enemies transmissions). But
then again, "Dean Stream" also has a certain ring to it... ;)

 
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Espen KrømkeMay 30, 2010
 

 
Thank you very much for this info, Kirsty! I'll check the stream with
VLC when it's moved to it's permanent location. I suspect it is my
fault, I did ramp up the served buffer size to compensate for the
wireless instability. It could be that VLC chokes then.

If anyone else experience any sort of problem with the stream then
please do as Kirsty did: A short description of the problem and the name
of the software being used. Our goal is crystal clear: JAM to the
people, regardless of software or platform! :)



Den 30. mai 2010 14:04, skrev kirstygold:

> Hi, thanks for this. Just for feedback, I opened it first with VLC media player - where it was very choppy with metallic beeps. bits missing.
>
> I moved over to winamp and have no problems what so ever. I'm happily listening to Garden worms. ;-)
>
>

 
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Don JudgeMay 30, 2010
 

 

 
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Don JudgeMay 30, 2010
 

 

 
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George StillMay 31, 2010
 

 

 
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Jeff ChaconJun 1, 2010
 

 
Long time lurker in America (Denver, Colorado) and I need to tell you,
the JAM stream is fantastic! I work at home, so I can listen to
whatever I want, and the JAM stream is my new favorite radio station.
Thanks for doing that. I also set up the stream on my Blackberry, so I
can drive around with it!

Also, at the risk of copyright infringement or whatever, my local comedy
improv group has started playing Just A Minute at our monthly shows, at
my behest, and the audience really enjoys it. Most of the show, the
players play different goofy characters in different goofy scenes, but
for JAM, we pull up chairs in front of the audience and let the
light/sound guy play Nicholas Parsons' part, and we play JAM as
ourselves. It's a nice change of pace for an improv show, and our
audience has become quite fond of it.

Back to lurking.

- Jeff

 
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Maria Eugenia GaribottiJun 1, 2010
 

 
I think rules of games cannot be copyrighted, so you'll be completely clear if you change the name slightly. Not that I think you should worry.

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Jeff Chacon <mcchacon@...> wrote:

 

Long time lurker in America (Denver, Colorado) and I need to tell you,
the JAM stream is fantastic! I work at home, so I can listen to
whatever I want, and the JAM stream is my new favorite radio station.
Thanks for doing that. I also set up the stream on my Blackberry, so I
can drive around with it!

Also, at the risk of copyright infringement or whatever, my local comedy
improv group has started playing Just A Minute at our monthly shows, at
my behest, and the audience really enjoys it. Most of the show, the
players play different goofy characters in different goofy scenes, but
for JAM, we pull up chairs in front of the audience and let the
light/sound guy play Nicholas Parsons' part, and we play JAM as
ourselves. It's a nice change of pace for an improv show, and our
audience has become quite fond of it.

Back to lurking.

- Jeff

 
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delmelzaJun 2, 2010
 

 
My friends and I have played the game complete with light panel and buzzers at a few local Sci fi/British Media conventions.
( rigged up by a techie friend)

Also I have been told that it is a regular feature at the big Doctor Who Convention in California at which some of the Guest play

Miriam

--- In just-a-minute@..., Maria Eugenia Garibotti <garibotti@...> wrote:
>
> I think rules of games cannot be copyrighted, so you'll be completely clear
> if you change the name slightly. Not that I think you should worry.
>
> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Jeff Chacon <mcchacon@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Long time lurker in America (Denver, Colorado) and I need to tell you,
> > the JAM stream is fantastic! I work at home, so I can listen to
> > whatever I want, and the JAM stream is my new favorite radio station.
> > Thanks for doing that. I also set up the stream on my Blackberry, so I
> > can drive around with it!
> >
> > Also, at the risk of copyright infringement or whatever, my local comedy
> > improv group has started playing Just A Minute at our monthly shows, at
> > my behest, and the audience really enjoys it. Most of the show, the
> > players play different goofy characters in different goofy scenes, but
> > for JAM, we pull up chairs in front of the audience and let the
> > light/sound guy play Nicholas Parsons' part, and we play JAM as
> > ourselves. It's a nice change of pace for an improv show, and our
> > audience has become quite fond of it.
> >
> > Back to lurking.
> >
> > - Jeff
> >
> >
>

 
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bikerdoncyclistJun 3, 2010
 

 
I tried running the JAM stream in VLC a few days ago and it worked fine.
I just tried to run it again and it's asking me for username and password.

Anyone else getting this ?
Is this correct ?
If so, what are they ?

Regards
Don

 
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Espen KrømkeJun 4, 2010
 

 
Apparently the server is down right now. I am not sure why and is on holiday at the moment so I can't look into it before I'm back in town on monday. (Security settings prevent me from administrating it from outside the local network)




Den 04. juni 2010 00:03, skrev bikerdoncyclist:

 

I tried running the JAM stream in VLC a few days ago and it worked fine.
I just tried to run it again and it's asking me for username and password.

Anyone else getting this ?
Is this correct ?
If so, what are they ?

Regards
Don