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Re: Welcome to The JAM bar! :)

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DeanMay 31, 2010

Don when you say YouTube rarely has whole shows posted to it, well.....

here's a full doco on Peter Cook - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHssf_nyWac

this person here has uploaded all 120 eps of the old Batman series http://www.youtube.com/user/michelle66#p/u - interestingly this series isn't available on DVD specifically because of a rights dispute!

this person here has uploaded all 136 eps of the British version of Whose Line Is It Anyway http://www.youtube.com/user/SormaNo3?feature=chclk

this person is uploading the entire run of Stephen Fry's QI http://www.youtube.com/user/quite1nteresting#p/u

Married With Children http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcSoLz5_37c

here you can see all of a BBC series on the life of Margaret Thatcher http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fRwF6c5ERo

Inspector Morse ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po3yqNf0H-o
this person is uploading all daily eppies of Judde Judy, Judge Joe Brown and the Peoples Court in their entirety, every day - http://www.youtube.com/user/CourtTube01

These are just some of the things I have on my favourites list - but these just happen to be my interests. You can watch many many shows on YouTube - in full - often within minutes of them being broadcast. I watch Graham Norton Show, HIGNFY and the American series The View every day/week this way.

It is a fascinating thing that YouTube gets away with this - indeed the BBC itself posts on its own channel http://www.youtube.com/user/BBC - many other broadcasters do likewise.

From: Don Judge

Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 3:42 PM

To: just-a-minute@...

Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: Welcome to The JAM bar! :)

Just to add a little more fuel to the fire, YouTube rarely, if ever, has entire episodes uploaded to it.

That can make a big difference to contravening copyright laws.

As said before, let's hope push doesn't come to shove as we say.

Cheers

Don __o
-\<,
..... O/ O

From: Dean <dbedford@xtra. co.nz>
To: just-a-minute@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, 31 May, 2010 15:20:59
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: Welcome to The JAM bar! :)

Well HIGNFY is just an example - point is that there is a lot of BBC TV now on YouTube including a lot of material that DEFINITELY IS for sale on DVD, indeed a lot of stuff that has clearly been copied from DVDs. And if we are talking about copyright breaches, my website should be taken down. Our file sharing is also a breach.

And even if the point is commercial value, there is no commercial value in what Espen is doing. The BBC is not going to set up a 24-hour JAM station.

Almost everything on YouTube is a copyright breach of some sort unless you are uploading your home video. That YouTubne continues to thrive sends some sort of message, I think.

From: kj.naughton

Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 11:29 AM

To: just-a-minute@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: Welcome to The JAM bar! :)

I'm not sure that this does settle the doubt.

The difference between Have I Got News For You on Youtube and "JaM Radio" is that the BBC makes money from releasing JaM on CD whereas there's a very limited commercial market for HIGNFY. As soon as "JaM Radio" is seen as a threat to the BBC's commercial interests, however small, you'll know about it.

I'm not familiar with what happens in Espen's country with regard to "take down notices" but I'd suggest Espen reads up on it, just in case.

I wish you luck and I hope that your service is tolerated by the BBC as it's a great idea. Just be prepared for the alternative.

kJ

--- In just-a-minute@ yahoogroups. com, Espen KrÃ¸mke <espen.kromke@ ...> wrote:

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>

Interesting information and a very good poinyt of course. I guess that

>

settles the doubts about this and we can proceed. :)

> This is just one of

the very nice things that can be said about most

> public (non commercial

driven) radios, they are not so lawer happy or

> egoistic about their

material, but have a different attitude towards

> their

work.

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