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Re: The Carte Blanche of Kenneth Williams

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Robert TorresOct 28, 2010
 
 
Excellent point.  but sometimes, at least in my experience, its often very difficult to tell where the fine line is between joking around and being serious.  cuz i've met some people who have told some pretty hard hitting things about themselves and people they know, only for them to turn around and say they were just joking around.  and I and many others are left not laughing at all, and just look on with utter contempt that someone who just told us something like 'oh my best friend was killed by a serial killer' or that they were 'molested by their step parents' is telling me that it was all a joke.  i mean, I enjoy a good laugh as much as the next person, but there are some things that you just don't joke about. 
 
granted, there were plenty of times Kenneth actually did make it known that what he was doing at the moment was just in the spirit of fun, especially after a particular tirade against someone (particularly the chairman), that did bring a smile to my face.  largely cuz it did reinforce or at least reminded the listeners that the show is meant to be entertaining. 

--- On Wed, 10/27/10, Steve <zedro@...> wrote:

From: Steve <zedro@...>
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: The Carte Blanche of Kenneth Williams
To: just-a-minute@...
Date: Wednesday, October 27, 2010, 2:56 PM

 
I don't think one can necessarily take the pathological self-loathing which his diaries existed to express on face value as regards his JAM tirades. I think it's pretty clear that it was 90% an act put on for entertainment. And if they stuck me for that many years with the terminally untalented yet perpetually auditioning Nicholas Parsons, I think I could be excused the odd venting of rage.

--- In just-a-minute@..., Robert Torres <bobbyshaddoe3004@...> wrote:
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> That is true.  Entertainment is one of the key elements for a show like JAM, and Kenneth was certainly very entertaining.  His presence certainly did lift the proceedings up especially when there would be a rather uninteresting guest panelist. 
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> However, there were plenty of equally entertaining guests that appeared on the panel at times with Kenneth, and yet he was still allowed free reign to ride roughshot over people regardless.  In fact, there was one occasion when Kenneth`s behavior caused a female guest to run out of the show in the middle of a recording, in absolute tears, and refused to go back because she didnt want to be subjected to Kenneth`s anti feminist tirades.  I believe the lady in question was Nyree Dawn Porter.
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> And there are also entrees in Kenneth's own journal where he personally states quite categorically of the times he behaved disgracefully on Just a Minute.  His intention may have been to be entertaining, but even the late Mr. Williams himself was aware of those moments when he crossed the line. 
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