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DaveFeb 23, 2007
 

 
The poiunt about research actually was when out on the road and that
the single biggest attraction in Portsmouth, a great naval base, is
HMS Victory.

The London stuff is just general knowledge, but obviously there would
be too much to learn for a place like London in the hope it might be
asked as a subject. The point is Sue Perkins was born, grew up and
lives in London.

If you grew up in New York, would you know the name of the main park,
or in Paris the name of the main art gallery? Its not quite on that
level, but its close.

As to your other question The serpentine is an artificial lake creatd
in 1730 and gets its name from its supposedly snakelike, curving
shape. A bridge over the centre of it is the boundary between Hyde
Park and Kensignton Gardens, although I wouldn't have known THAT last
bit myself, to the causal onlooker it all looks like one big park.


--- In just-a-minute@..., "Nathan Leonard"
<dreadedwoekitten@...> wrote:

>
> To be fair on Sue Perkins, London is a big place. I doubt that

anybody

> trying to do research on the city could be expected to dredge up

every

> possible detail, especially when they don't know what they're going

to be

> asked. The nature of the Serpentine is, let's face it, quite an
> insignificant fact that they are unlikely to be asked about. If I

was going

> to do an episode of JAM somewhere I'd probably do much more

research on

> local history than on local geography, especially when "local

geography"

> covers an area as wide as London.
>
> To return to another tangent - is the Serpentine at least long,

thin, and a

> bit wavy? If not, does anybody know why it's called that?
>
> On 2/23/07, Robert Torres <bobbyshaddoe3004@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > *Dave <j_a_m_fan@...>* wrote:
> >
> > --- In just-a-minute@... <just-a-minute%

40yahoogroups.com>,

> > "bobbyshaddoe3004"
> > <bobbyshaddoe3004@> wrote:
> > Funny, I don't seem to understand just what your point was

actually.

> >
> > This was, in part, my point exactly.
> >
> > > The fact is, Nicholas has often stated time immemorial, that

evenif

> > > you don't know a thing about a subject, you still have to talk
> > about
> > > it irrespective. The reason some of these individuals decided to
> > > read up on this sort of information, because they usually

CHOOSE to

> > > do so for their own reasons, usually to work their comedy about

the

> > > place they happen to be visiting.
> > >
> > > I myself have been accused of being pedantic on things regarding
> > this
> > > show, but I think this is just getting a bit TOO pedantic. The
> > > subject Sue was talking about was 'Old Father Thames' and when

she

> > > had the subject she did very well with it, discussing him as

well

> > as
> > > Old Mother Thames. I think the issue over Sue's alleged

ignorance

> > > regarding the Serpentine and the Thames is totally immaterial.
> >
> > I'm quite happy to be accused of 'pedantry on an industrial

scale' to

> > quote Stephen Fry, but if you check this wasn't the only instance
> > with this particular player. To continue the Fry quotes 'I'll

hold up

> > my end for the Radio 4 listener'.
> > I don't seem to recall any other instance of Sue being ignorant

on some

> > subject, but its as I said before, I take it that because Sue

knows in

> > certain instances that if she were to just make something up,

there is the

> > possibility that someone might or might not challenge her,

because surely

> > something like that has been done by plenty of other panelists on

the show,

> > why single Sue Perkins out because of it? I mean, it just seems

unfair to

> > single her out, for what, going on flights of fantasy? the very

thing

> > people like Paul Merton do frequently, or someone like Ross Noble

who takes

> > a subject and creates surrealistic word pictures out of them, or

even

> > someone like Clement Freud, who was once given the subject

of 'Fatboy Slim'

> > and took it as 'Fat Boy's Limb', or I think on one subject kept

insisting

> > that the word or term, whatever it was, was allegedly 'a snooker

term', but

> > would never elaborate on it.
> >
> > >
> > > --- In just-a-minute@... <just-a-minute%

40yahoogroups.com>,

> > "Dave" <j_a_m_fan@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I've never lived in London either; or Portsmouth. HMS Victory

was

> > > > Nelson's flag ship at the battle of Trafalgar and a huge

point of

> > > > civic pride that it is preserved there, I'm sure.
> > > >
> > > > My point is that Graham Norton has never lived in Sheffield,

but

> > on
> > > > his appearances there he had done what research he could;

Sheila

> > > > Hancock in the Hastings recording had done the same, even

stating

> > > she
> > > > had anticipated local questions. These performers know the

game

> > > > format when its out on the road (ie. not in London), and

approach

> > > it
> > > > with a suitable degree of professionalism.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In just-a-minute@... <just-a-minute%

40yahoogroups.com>,

> > "Nathan Leonard"
> > > > <dreadedwoekitten@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I have to say that although I have heard of the HMS

Victory, I

> > > > couldn't tell
> > > > > you offhand why it's famous. And I thought the Serpentine

was

> > a
> > > > river, not
> > > > > a lake. Mind you, I've never lived in London.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 2/20/07, dbedford@ <dbedford@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I expect this will probably not make me popular around
> > > > > > > here, but I have to say that I firmly believe that Just

a

> > > > > > > Minute has actually been much better in recent years

than

> > > > > > > it was in times of old.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I wouldn't think you would be in the minority actually. On
> > > > > > the TV show Arena a few years ago, Nick himself reckoned

it

> > > > > > was funnier these days. Of course these days most of the
> > > > > > cast are professional comedians, which Kenneth, Clement,
> > > > > > Peter, Derek and most of their contemporaries were not.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I personally like both "versions" if that's the right word
> > > > > > in different ways. I do feel the current show shuffles the
> > > > > > pack too much and you miss out on the really great banter
> > > > > > and interaction that comes when everyone knows exactly how
> > > > > > to pull everyone else's string. And I like the drama that
> > > > > > Kenneth offered. But Paul and Graham do come out with
> > > > > > funnier lines and stories. My Desert Island list included
> > > > > > plenty from both eras. :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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