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Topic: New poll for just-a-minute

Message 1 / 49
Dean BedfordJul 21, 2011
 
 
Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
just-a-minute group:

One on One Arm Wrestle - ROUND FIVE

o Kit HESKETH-HARVEY
o Derek NIMMO


To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/just-a-minute/surveys?id=3056271

Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
web site listed above.

Thanks!
 
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Topic: Re: New poll for just-a-minute

Message 2 / 49
deanbedfordJul 21, 2011
 
 
So to the next round - Tony Hawks was the winner of the last poll.

This time the choice is between the lyrical wit who is one of only three to have appeared in every year since 1994 - and one of the old gang, the traveller, the toe twiddling, grand man of the panel.

Should KIT HESKETH-HARVEY or DEREK NIMMO go through to the next round. You have a day to decide. VOTE NOW!

> To vote, please visit the following web page:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/just-a-minute/surveys?id=3056271
>

 
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Topic: New poll for just-a-minute

Message 3 / 49
Dean BedfordJul 22, 2011
 
 
Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
just-a-minute group:

one on one arm wrestle - ROUND SIX

o Peter JONES
o Wendy RICHARD


To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/just-a-minute/surveys?id=3056419

Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
web site listed above.

Thanks!
 
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Topic: Re: New poll for just-a-minute

Message 4 / 49
deanbedfordJul 22, 2011
 
 
A close vote but Derek Nimmo is added to the final eight...

So...

tough choice this - the witty and tough soapie star who made her mark in the early 90s? Or the avuncular actor and playwright who often came out with the funniest remark.

Peter Jones? Wendy Richard? A tough choice but one you must make, NOW!



> To vote, please visit the following web page:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/just-a-minute/surveys?id=3056419

 
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Topic: Re: New poll for just-a-minute

Message 5 / 49
Don JudgeJul 22, 2011
 
 
Blimey, no doubt left with that result (so far anyway, 100% for Peter)

I must say this is the first one where I didn't vote instantly, in every other vote I went for my favourite without even thinking about it.
I was weighing up Peter's lack of skill at the game (come on you can't argue with that, Shirley) against his razor-sharp wit and brilliantly cutting one-liners and Wendy's performances.

I must say I liked her quite a lot in JAM, just a shame she came up against the Genius of Peter in this vote, in my world anyway.
 
--
Cheers

Don   __o
      \<,
.....O/ O




From: deanbedford <dbedford@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Friday, 22 July 2011, 12:42
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute

 
A close vote but Derek Nimmo is added to the final eight...

So...

tough choice this - the witty and tough soapie star who made her mark in the early 90s? Or the avuncular actor and playwright who often came out with the funniest remark.

Peter Jones? Wendy Richard? A tough choice but one you must make, NOW!

> To vote, please visit the following web page:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/just-a-minute/surveys?id=3056419




 
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Topic: Re: New poll for just-a-minute

Message 6 / 49
Julian BishopJul 22, 2011
 
 
Hi Don

Peter Jones was terrible at the game, and he couldn't blame lack of practice!  However, his contribution was sparing but usually exceptional.  It was him who made you spit out your food with laughter. 

What a boring game it would be if they all went into it to win rather than entertain. Peter's contributions entertained. 

As to Peter's 100% (so far), I'm not sure who would vote for Wendy Richard. Miserableness personified. 

This poll is going to get more difficult in later rounds.  Much more difficult to choose between Peter Jones and Kenneth Williams for example

Julian Bishop
+44 7771 822106
www.julianxbishop.wordpress.com
@julianxbishop
www.julianbishop.linkedin.com


On 22 Jul 2011, at 16:24, "Don Judge" <don@...> wrote:

 

Blimey, no doubt left with that result (so far anyway, 100% for Peter)

I must say this is the first one where I didn't vote instantly, in every other vote I went for my favourite without even thinking about it.
I was weighing up Peter's lack of skill at the game (come on you can't argue with that, Shirley) against his razor-sharp wit and brilliantly cutting one-liners and Wendy's performances.

I must say I liked her quite a lot in JAM, just a shame she came up against the Genius of Peter in this vote, in my world anyway.
 
--
Cheers

Don   __o
      \<,
.....O/ O




From: deanbedford <dbedford@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Friday, 22 July 2011, 12:42
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute

 
A close vote but Derek Nimmo is added to the final eight...

So...

tough choice this - the witty and tough soapie star who made her mark in the early 90s? Or the avuncular actor and playwright who often came out with the funniest remark.

Peter Jones? Wendy Richard? A tough choice but one you must make, NOW!

> To vote, please visit the following web page:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/just-a-minute/surveys?id=3056419




 
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Topic: Re: New poll for just-a-minute

Message 7 / 49
DeanJul 22, 2011
 
 
on Kenneth, I can understand why not everyone would appreciate him. He is entirely unique. But – one of the great things about Espen’s stream is that you can listen to a Kenneth era show chosen at random and then a Paul era show also chosen at random and compare them – all the time.
 
I know Nicholas has said the shows are funnier these days and someone else said the same here. I think the difference is these days is that when the panellists are speaking on the subject, they always try to have frequent laugh lines. Thirty and 40 years ago, they did sometimes take the subject seriously and try to be informative. Not just Kenneth and his historical subjects but the others too. Now they never do. Last year we had John Sergeant trying to take subjects seriously and he was ridiculed by all the others. But had he appeared in say 1974, he’d probably have been applauded for managing to continue for long periods without breaking the rules.
 
But if I am choosing shows to listen to, I usually pick a Kenneth-era show. Because he is the one that regularly makes me laugh out loud. Because he provides the unexpected, the moments of drama. He can change so frequently. There was one show I was listening to yesterday where he was speaking and Kenneth was then challenged and there was a bit of argument about the challenge and Nicholas tried to move on by saying “oh well Kenneth you did hesitate there but we all thought you were lovely there...”and Kenneth came in with this gay voice saying “"oh I bet you say that to all the boys!” I happened to have a mouthful of orange juice at the time which ended up all over my nice new shirt. It was just perfectly timed and phrased.
 
No-one could admire Paul’s improvisational skills more than me. He is the King Kong of the show these days and I do think if he chucked it in, the show would die. But
Kenneth with his voices, his different styles, his knowledge – just a genius.. and i think of all he did it was Just A Minute that showed him off best...
 
From: Dave B
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 5:35 AM
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute
 
 

Speaking of Julian, you may recall his red box incident when he was barred from UK TV for a while.

If you don't know about this and want to know more then this forum link may help

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=212813.

and Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAU7pATH5_M

On the subject of Kenneth, my dad had the radio on at tea time every evening through the 1960s and 1970s, so I guess, as a small child, I heard every JAM episode back then though all I can recall is Kenneth's voice, and maybe Sheila, and certainly Nick, until I finally caught the bug and started recording the shows when our first cassette recorder appeared in the house. Like I think Dean has written, listening to Just A Minute back then was a case constantly wanting Kenneth to win, cheering every time he went in to the lead (right), feeling saddened if he let it slip, and whooping if he actually won, usually not against the 3 other boys. It was almost like watching an England World Cup football match.....wanting it to happen but knowing it never would...but having a jolly good want. That's what it was like back then. Throughout the late 1990s up to today I listened (when work allowed) for something different, and that was a team of players having fun together and really passing the subject around, almost like that non existent England football team should have been doing with the ball.
 
I still have not had the courage to go back in time and listen to Kenneth and that time. Additionally the Nick-bating was cruel, whereas in the last few years every series has had a subject concerning the Chairman, because the treatment would be pure fantasy and fun, rather than cruel.
 
It may be interesting to do what Matthew is doing. Start at the beginning and work one's way up to 2011.
 
Dave
 

From: nylon net <nylon@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Wednesday, 13 July 2011 3:58 AM
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute

 
I do love our Kenny, but like most rich dishes, a little of him can often go a long way  ;-)

But at least he had variety in his personas. Unlike many one-dimensional "characters" in the media, he could change from fey to pompous to brutally aggressive to seductive to erudite to Cockney to Oxford and back to fey within 60 seconds.

Speaking of one-dimensional characters, I sometimes wonder why Julian Clary has stood the test of time with his single-entendre character, but I can only put it down to an indefinable bucketload of charisma and a great intelligence - and he always seems to be winking at you with a wry smile as if to say, "Yes, we both know it's silly, but just go along with it" and you do, because you're in on the joke.

Or not.

Mark
 
-----Original Message-----
From: espen.kromke@...
Sent: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 12:48:38 +0200
To: just-a-minute@...
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute

 
On 12. juli 2011 01:31, mathew wrote:
 
Kenneth Williams. Listening to him cracks me up every time. I really do like it when Kenneth goes off on one during the shows. Clement changed his style as the show went on however was very consistant throughout his tenure.

My dream 4 would feature Kenneth Williams, Paul Merton and Kenneth Williams as the first 3, not sure about the other.

Well, in the episodes where Williams is featured he already is featured twice as much as the others. :D

If Kenneth was still i JAM, I can say for certain I would not have listened to JAM today.
And if what Clement say in the jam documentary is true, JAM gained significantly more listeners after Williams died so at least I'm not the only one with that opinion - although I might be in the minority on this list. :)



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Topic: Re: New poll for just-a-minute

Message 8 / 49
DeanJul 22, 2011
 
 
Oh meant to say in the other post – I think they worked more as a team in the past... the repartee and arguments are generally better in the past...
 
 
 
 
From: mathew
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 9:27 AM
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute
 
 

Have been listening to the very early series' and their not as funny as nowadays. I'd also agree that Kenneth wasnt a team player as such. However there are many occasions when its Kenneth who would provide the laugh.

It will be good to hear the shows development through the series and the years.

.


 
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Topic: Re: New poll for just-a-minute

Message 9 / 49
DeanJul 22, 2011
 
 
I don’t disagree with this generally. But I reckon the genius of JAM is that 95 percent of the shows really do still stand up very well. The first season wasn’t good and I think some of the shows in the early 90s before Paul really hit his straps are flat. But there’s not many...
 
 
 
 
From: nylon net
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 3:14 PM
Subject: RE: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute
 
 

It's hard judging comedy from 40 years ago.  It's so heavily based on current culture, trends and attitudes.  How many people think Shakespeare's comedies are worth rolling around on the floor for?  Listen to "Much Binding in the Marsh" and ask yourself how funny it is now.  (But I must admit I quite like it even though I don't understand most of it.  Strange, that.)

We change, the recorded comedy doesn't. 

Remember when Ben Elton was the hottest thing in funny stuff?  I remember thinking Alexei Sayle was the funniest man on TV.  Today I can watch their repeats and start remembering the great days I had watching paint dry.

It's a very rare thing for a comedy to transcend decades and still generate a genuine LOL: the Goons can still make me weep; an unexpected moment in Round the Horn can make me snort milk from my nose (especially impressive because I don't drink milk. Must see the doctor about that); I can alarm passersby as I grin while walking down the street with my MP3 player producing great Humph lines from ISIHAC. 

The shelf life of comedy is not nearly as long as you might think.  If you don't believe me, try watching any Norman Wisdom movie.  (IMHO, of course).
So please be gentle judging old funnymen.  If they can even make you smile 50 years later, they must have been doing something brilliant back then.

2.2 cents worth, including tax.

Mark

 
nylon@...


-----Original Message-----
From: mat_bagnall@...
Sent: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 21:27:03 -0000
To: just-a-minute@...
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute

 

Have been listening to the very early series' and their not as funny as nowadays. I'd also agree that Kenneth wasnt a team player as such. However there are many occasions when its Kenneth who would provide the laugh.

It will be good to hear the shows development through the series and the years.

--- In mailto:just-a-minute%40..., Julian Bishop <julianxbishop@...> wrote:
>
> I think KW was a team player. He was regularly asked by the producer to rescue a show when there hadn't been a laugh for a while. He was my favourite when I was a boy. I loved it when he won (a real rarity). We now know that KW was a very unhappy (who loathed himself). I think these days it would be much easier for him to come to terms with his homosexuality.
>
> IMO JAM is much funnier now (more comedians) and I agree with you entirely that it's a team game. The really good stuff comes from interplay between two or more players.
>
> Julian Bishop
> +44 7771 822106
> www.julianxbishop.wordpress.com
> @julianxbishop
> www.julianbishop.linkedin.com
>
>
> On 12 Jul 2011, at 19:29, "kj.naughton" <kj.naughton@...> wrote:
>
> > Hello Mathew,
> >
> > He's probably only viewed negatively by some. Others will love him. The same is true for modern-day players. Personally Gyles Brandreth gets right up my goat but I know that others think he's great. I quite like Liza Tarbuck in JaM; I know others don't agree with me.
> >
> > I have to say that I'm not a KW fan though. I'm not a fan of the older series either. I haven't decided whether those two are related; I suspect not because I'm not a fan of old Clues either.
> >
> > I see JaM as working best when it's full of team players. I know it's an individual game but I like everyone to be involved and given a go and I love it when players bounce off each other. Some of my favourite players do just that; Paul Merton, Tony Hawks, Ross Noble, et al.
> >
> > Kenneth seemed either to like to dominate proceedings or he retreated into a sulk, neither of which are characteristics which make for a good performance.
> >
> > All, of course, IMHO. Other opinions are available.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > kJ
> >
> > --- In mailto:just-a-minute%40..., "mathew" <mat_bagnall@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Being new to the site am wondering why Kenneth Williams is viewed negatively.
> > >
> >
> >
>


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Topic: Re: New poll for just-a-minute

Message 10 / 49
nylon netJul 22, 2011
 
 
Yes, that what I was clumsily trying to get to. The fact the JAM can still be entertaining decades after broadcast is a testament to the skills of the panelists and the strategy of the game.

ISIHAC needs dozens of game formats to keep it fresh while JAM's single format has never changed.

Regards
--
Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: dbedford@...
Sent: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 08:52:15 +1200
To: just-a-minute@...
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute

 

I don’t disagree with this generally. But I reckon the genius of JAM is that 95 percent of the shows really do still stand up very well. The first season wasn’t good and I think some of the shows in the early 90s before Paul really hit his straps are flat. But there’s not many...
 
 
 
 
From: nylon net
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 3:14 PM
Subject: RE: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute
 
 

It's hard judging comedy from 40 years ago.  It's so heavily based on current culture, trends and attitudes.  How many people think Shakespeare's comedies are worth rolling around on the floor for?  Listen to "Much Binding in the Marsh" and ask yourself how funny it is now.  (But I must admit I quite like it even though I don't understand most of it.  Strange, that.)

We change, the recorded comedy doesn't. 

Remember when Ben Elton was the hottest thing in funny stuff?  I remember thinking Alexei Sayle was the funniest man on TV.  Today I can watch their repeats and start remembering the great days I had watching paint dry.

It's a very rare thing for a comedy to transcend decades and still generate a genuine LOL: the Goons can still make me weep; an unexpected moment in Round the Horn can make me snort milk from my nose (especially impressive because I don't drink milk. Must see the doctor about that); I can alarm passersby as I grin while walking down the street with my MP3 player producing great Humph lines from ISIHAC. 

The shelf life of comedy is not nearly as long as you might think.  If you don't believe me, try watching any Norman Wisdom movie.  (IMHO, of course).
So please be gentle judging old funnymen.  If they can even make you smile 50 years later, they must have been doing something brilliant back then.

2.2 cents worth, including tax.

Mark

 
nylon@...


-----Original Message-----
From: mat_bagnall@...
Sent: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 21:27:03 -0000
To: just-a-minute@...
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute

 

Have been listening to the very early series' and their not as funny as nowadays. I'd also agree that Kenneth wasnt a team player as such. However there are many occasions when its Kenneth who would provide the laugh.

It will be good to hear the shows development through the series and the years.

--- In mailto:just-a-minute%40..., Julian Bishop <julianxbishop@...> wrote:
>
> I think KW was a team player. He was regularly asked by the producer to rescue a show when there hadn't been a laugh for a while. He was my favourite when I was a boy. I loved it when he won (a real rarity). We now know that KW was a very unhappy (who loathed himself). I think these days it would be much easier for him to come to terms with his homosexuality.
>
> IMO JAM is much funnier now (more comedians) and I agree with you entirely that it's a team game. The really good stuff comes from interplay between two or more players.
>
> Julian Bishop
> +44 7771 822106
> www.julianxbishop.wordpress.com
> @julianxbishop
> www.julianbishop.linkedin.com
>
>
> On 12 Jul 2011, at 19:29, "kj.naughton" <kj.naughton@...> wrote:
>
> > Hello Mathew,
> >
> > He's probably only viewed negatively by some. Others will love him. The same is true for modern-day players. Personally Gyles Brandreth gets right up my goat but I know that others think he's great. I quite like Liza Tarbuck in JaM; I know others don't agree with me.
> >
> > I have to say that I'm not a KW fan though. I'm not a fan of the older series either. I haven't decided whether those two are related; I suspect not because I'm not a fan of old Clues either.
> >
> > I see JaM as working best when it's full of team players. I know it's an individual game but I like everyone to be involved and given a go and I love it when players bounce off each other. Some of my favourite players do just that; Paul Merton, Tony Hawks, Ross Noble, et al.
> >
> > Kenneth seemed either to like to dominate proceedings or he retreated into a sulk, neither of which are characteristics which make for a good performance.
> >
> > All, of course, IMHO. Other opinions are available.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > kJ
> >
> > --- In mailto:just-a-minute%40..., "mathew" <mat_bagnall@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Being new to the site am wondering why Kenneth Williams is viewed negatively.
> > >
> >
> >
>


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Topic: Re: New poll for just-a-minute

Message 11 / 49
Dave BJul 23, 2011
 
 
The only time I found Kenneth uncontorted was in the film Carry on Nurse from 1959 and he played a lovely, intelligent and warm hospital patient.

I was looking around for a video link which showed this but was unsuccessful, though some clips and a movie trailer are available.

This one (6th one down) is of interest for it shows Ken dubbed into German (early into the video)

http://www.ovguide.com/movies_tv/carry_on_nurse.htm

Dave


From: Dean <dbedford@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Friday, 22 July 2011 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute

 
on Kenneth, I can understand why not everyone would appreciate him. He is entirely unique. But – one of the great things about Espen’s stream is that you can listen to a Kenneth era show chosen at random and then a Paul era show also chosen at random and compare them – all the time.
 
I know Nicholas has said the shows are funnier these days and someone else said the same here. I think the difference is these days is that when the panellists are speaking on the subject, they always try to have frequent laugh lines. Thirty and 40 years ago, they did sometimes take the subject seriously and try to be informative. Not just Kenneth and his historical subjects but the others too. Now they never do. Last year we had John Sergeant trying to take subjects seriously and he was ridiculed by all the others. But had he appeared in say 1974, he’d probably have been applauded for managing to continue for long periods without breaking the rules.
 
But if I am choosing shows to listen to, I usually pick a Kenneth-era show. Because he is the one that regularly makes me laugh out loud. Because he provides the unexpected, the moments of drama. He can change so frequently. There was one show I was listening to yesterday where he was speaking and Kenneth was then challenged and there was a bit of argument about the challenge and Nicholas tried to move on by saying “oh well Kenneth you did hesitate there but we all thought you were lovely there...”and Kenneth came in with this gay voice saying “"oh I bet you say that to all the boys!” I happened to have a mouthful of orange juice at the time which ended up all over my nice new shirt. It was just perfectly timed and phrased.
 
No-one could admire Paul’s improvisational skills more than me. He is the King Kong of the show these days and I do think if he chucked it in, the show would die. But
Kenneth with his voices, his different styles, his knowledge – just a genius.. and i think of all he did it was Just A Minute that showed him off best...
 
From: Dave B
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 5:35 AM
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute
 
 
Speaking of Julian, you may recall his red box incident when he was barred from UK TV for a while.

If you don't know about this and want to know more then this forum link may help

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=212813.

and Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAU7pATH5_M

On the subject of Kenneth, my dad had the radio on at tea time every evening through the 1960s and 1970s, so I guess, as a small child, I heard every JAM episode back then though all I can recall is Kenneth's voice, and maybe Sheila, and certainly Nick, until I finally caught the bug and started recording the shows when our first cassette recorder appeared in the house. Like I think Dean has written, listening to Just A Minute back then was a case constantly wanting Kenneth to win, cheering every time he went in to the lead (right), feeling saddened if he let it slip, and whooping if he actually won, usually not against the 3 other boys. It was almost like watching an England World Cup football match.....wanting it to happen but knowing it never would...but having a jolly good want. That's what it was like back then. Throughout the late 1990s up to today I listened (when work allowed) for something different, and that was a team of players having fun together and really passing the subject around, almost like that non existent England football team should have been doing with the ball.
 
I still have not had the courage to go back in time and listen to Kenneth and that time. Additionally the Nick-bating was cruel, whereas in the last few years every series has had a subject concerning the Chairman, because the treatment would be pure fantasy and fun, rather than cruel.
 
It may be interesting to do what Matthew is doing. Start at the beginning and work one's way up to 2011.
 
Dave
 

From: nylon net <nylon@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Wednesday, 13 July 2011 3:58 AM
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute

 
I do love our Kenny, but like most rich dishes, a little of him can often go a long way  ;-)

But at least he had variety in his personas. Unlike many one-dimensional "characters" in the media, he could change from fey to pompous to brutally aggressive to seductive to erudite to Cockney to Oxford and back to fey within 60 seconds.

Speaking of one-dimensional characters, I sometimes wonder why Julian Clary has stood the test of time with his single-entendre character, but I can only put it down to an indefinable bucketload of charisma and a great intelligence - and he always seems to be winking at you with a wry smile as if to say, "Yes, we both know it's silly, but just go along with it" and you do, because you're in on the joke.

Or not.

Mark
 
-----Original Message-----
From: espen.kromke@...
Sent: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 12:48:38 +0200
To: just-a-minute@...
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute

 
On 12. juli 2011 01:31, mathew wrote:
 
Kenneth Williams. Listening to him cracks me up every time. I really do like it when Kenneth goes off on one during the shows. Clement changed his style as the show went on however was very consistant throughout his tenure.

My dream 4 would feature Kenneth Williams, Paul Merton and Kenneth Williams as the first 3, not sure about the other.

Well, in the episodes where Williams is featured he already is featured twice as much as the others. :D

If Kenneth was still i JAM, I can say for certain I would not have listened to JAM today.
And if what Clement say in the jam documentary is true, JAM gained significantly more listeners after Williams died so at least I'm not the only one with that opinion - although I might be in the minority on this list. :)



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Message 12 / 49
Don JudgeJul 23, 2011
 
 
I love the second clip down, the operation with the laughing gas - an all-time fave of mine
hahahaha - and no, I'm not on the gas myself....

Many thanks for the link
 
--
Cheers

Don   __o
      \<,
.....O/ O




From: Dave B <pondydave@...>
To: "just-a-minute@..." <just-a-minute@...>
Sent: Saturday, 23 July 2011, 9:25
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute

 
The only time I found Kenneth uncontorted was in the film Carry on Nurse from 1959 and he played a lovely, intelligent and warm hospital patient.

I was looking around for a video link which showed this but was unsuccessful, though some clips and a movie trailer are available.

This one (6th one down) is of interest for it shows Ken dubbed into German (early into the video)

http://www.ovguide.com/movies_tv/carry_on_nurse.htm

Dave


From: Dean <dbedford@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Friday, 22 July 2011 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute

 
on Kenneth, I can understand why not everyone would appreciate him. He is entirely unique. But – one of the great things about Espen’s stream is that you can listen to a Kenneth era show chosen at random and then a Paul era show also chosen at random and compare them – all the time.
 
I know Nicholas has said the shows are funnier these days and someone else said the same here. I think the difference is these days is that when the panellists are speaking on the subject, they always try to have frequent laugh lines. Thirty and 40 years ago, they did sometimes take the subject seriously and try to be informative. Not just Kenneth and his historical subjects but the others too. Now they never do. Last year we had John Sergeant trying to take subjects seriously and he was ridiculed by all the others. But had he appeared in say 1974, he’d probably have been applauded for managing to continue for long periods without breaking the rules.
 
But if I am choosing shows to listen to, I usually pick a Kenneth-era show. Because he is the one that regularly makes me laugh out loud. Because he provides the unexpected, the moments of drama. He can change so frequently. There was one show I was listening to yesterday where he was speaking and Kenneth was then challenged and there was a bit of argument about the challenge and Nicholas tried to move on by saying “oh well Kenneth you did hesitate there but we all thought you were lovely there...”and Kenneth came in with this gay voice saying “"oh I bet you say that to all the boys!” I happened to have a mouthful of orange juice at the time which ended up all over my nice new shirt. It was just perfectly timed and phrased.
 
No-one could admire Paul’s improvisational skills more than me. He is the King Kong of the show these days and I do think if he chucked it in, the show would die. But
Kenneth with his voices, his different styles, his knowledge – just a genius.. and i think of all he did it was Just A Minute that showed him off best...
 
From: Dave B
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 5:35 AM
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute
 
 
Speaking of Julian, you may recall his red box incident when he was barred from UK TV for a while.

If you don't know about this and want to know more then this forum link may help

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=212813.

and Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAU7pATH5_M

On the subject of Kenneth, my dad had the radio on at tea time every evening through the 1960s and 1970s, so I guess, as a small child, I heard every JAM episode back then though all I can recall is Kenneth's voice, and maybe Sheila, and certainly Nick, until I finally caught the bug and started recording the shows when our first cassette recorder appeared in the house. Like I think Dean has written, listening to Just A Minute back then was a case constantly wanting Kenneth to win, cheering every time he went in to the lead (right), feeling saddened if he let it slip, and whooping if he actually won, usually not against the 3 other boys. It was almost like watching an England World Cup football match.....wanting it to happen but knowing it never would...but having a jolly good want. That's what it was like back then. Throughout the late 1990s up to today I listened (when work allowed) for something different, and that was a team of players having fun together and really passing the subject around, almost like that non existent England football team should have been doing with the ball.
 
I still have not had the courage to go back in time and listen to Kenneth and that time. Additionally the Nick-bating was cruel, whereas in the last few years every series has had a subject concerning the Chairman, because the treatment would be pure fantasy and fun, rather than cruel.
 
It may be interesting to do what Matthew is doing. Start at the beginning and work one's way up to 2011.
 
Dave
 

From: nylon net <nylon@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Wednesday, 13 July 2011 3:58 AM
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute

 
I do love our Kenny, but like most rich dishes, a little of him can often go a long way  ;-)

But at least he had variety in his personas. Unlike many one-dimensional "characters" in the media, he could change from fey to pompous to brutally aggressive to seductive to erudite to Cockney to Oxford and back to fey within 60 seconds.

Speaking of one-dimensional characters, I sometimes wonder why Julian Clary has stood the test of time with his single-entendre character, but I can only put it down to an indefinable bucketload of charisma and a great intelligence - and he always seems to be winking at you with a wry smile as if to say, "Yes, we both know it's silly, but just go along with it" and you do, because you're in on the joke.

Or not.

Mark
 
-----Original Message-----
From: espen.kromke@...
Sent: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 12:48:38 +0200
To: just-a-minute@...
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute

 
On 12. juli 2011 01:31, mathew wrote:
 
Kenneth Williams. Listening to him cracks me up every time. I really do like it when Kenneth goes off on one during the shows. Clement changed his style as the show went on however was very consistant throughout his tenure.

My dream 4 would feature Kenneth Williams, Paul Merton and Kenneth Williams as the first 3, not sure about the other.

Well, in the episodes where Williams is featured he already is featured twice as much as the others. :D

If Kenneth was still i JAM, I can say for certain I would not have listened to JAM today.
And if what Clement say in the jam documentary is true, JAM gained significantly more listeners after Williams died so at least I'm not the only one with that opinion - although I might be in the minority on this list. :)



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Message 13 / 49
Dean BedfordJul 23, 2011
 
 
Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
just-a-minute group:

one on one arm wrestle - ROUND SEVEN

o Paul MERTON
o Linda SMITH


To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/just-a-minute/surveys?id=3056598

Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
web site listed above.

Thanks!
 
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Message 14 / 49
deanbedfordJul 23, 2011
 
 
Poor Wendy Richard - the first to receive no votes at all. Was she that bad? Or just up against tough competition in Peter Jones?

Oh well - I think this may be the toughest choice a yet. For so many reasons Linda Smith is a favourite with many who still mourn her far too early passing. But surely the King Kong of the past 20 years must make the final eight?

PAUL MERTON or LINDA SMITH? A tough choice indeed but a choice that must be made... VOTE NOW!!!!!


> To vote, please visit the following web page:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/just-a-minute/surveys?id=3056598

 
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Message 15 / 49
kj.naughtonJul 23, 2011
 
 
> Yes, that what I was clumsily trying to get to. The fact the JAM
> can still be entertaining decades after broadcast is a testament
> to the skills of the panelists and the strategy of the game.

> ISIHAC needs dozens of game formats to keep it fresh while
> JAM's single format has never changed.

Well, yes, that's true. But (at least these days) JaM also has basically a different panel every two weeks whilst ISIHAC has a much tighter core of panellists.

I think it's reasonable to say that JaM has a constant(ish) format and a frequently changing list of personnel whilst ISIHAC has a frequently changing format but a constant(ish) list of personnel. I don't necessarily think that JaM's way of staying fresh is better than ISIHAC's. Indeed you could say that the fact that they're both still around after all of these years shows that both ways of doing it are equally successful.

Cheers

kJ
 
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Message 16 / 49
kj.naughtonJul 23, 2011
 
 
Is than an inclusive or exclusive "or"?

I hope it's inclusive so that I can say "both".

Cheers

kJ

--- In just-a-minute@..., "deanbedford" <dbedford@...> wrote:
>
> Poor Wendy Richard - the first to receive no votes at all. Was she that bad? Or just up against tough competition in Peter Jones?

 
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Message 17 / 49
DavidJul 24, 2011
 
 
I thought that this comment was interesting:

Peter Jones was terrible at the game

What does everybody think is the purpose of the game? To get the most points or to get the most laughs? I think that technically Sue Perkins is one of the best players ever...but she does not always make me laugh the most.

Just a thought.

Love as always, David



--- In just-a-minute@..., Julian Bishop <julianxbishop@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Don
>
> Peter Jones was terrible at the game, and he couldn't blame lack of practice! However, his contribution was sparing but usually exceptional. It was him who made you spit out your food with laughter.
>
> What a boring game it would be if they all went into it to win rather than entertain. Peter's contributions entertained.
>
> As to Peter's 100% (so far), I'm not sure who would vote for Wendy Richard. Miserableness personified.
>
> This poll is going to get more difficult in later rounds. Much more difficult to choose between Peter Jones and Kenneth Williams for example
>
> Julian Bishop
> +44 7771 822106
> www.julianxbishop.wordpress.com
> @julianxbishop
> www.julianbishop.linkedin.com
>
>
> On 22 Jul 2011, at 16:24, "Don Judge" <don@...> wrote:
>
> > Blimey, no doubt left with that result (so far anyway, 100% for Peter)
> >
> > I must say this is the first one where I didn't vote instantly, in every other vote I went for my favourite without even thinking about it.
> > I was weighing up Peter's lack of skill at the game (come on you can't argue with that, Shirley) against his razor-sharp wit and brilliantly cutting one-liners and Wendy's performances.
> >
> > I must say I liked her quite a lot in JAM, just a shame she came up against the Genius of Peter in this vote, in my world anyway.
> >
> > --
> > Cheers
> >
> > Don __o
> > \<,
> > .....O/ O
> >
> >
> >
> > From: deanbedford <dbedford@...>
> > To: just-a-minute@...
> > Sent: Friday, 22 July 2011, 12:42
> > Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute
> >
> >
> > A close vote but Derek Nimmo is added to the final eight...
> >
> > So...
> >
> > tough choice this - the witty and tough soapie star who made her mark in the early 90s? Or the avuncular actor and playwright who often came out with the funniest remark.
> >
> > Peter Jones? Wendy Richard? A tough choice but one you must make, NOW!
> >
> > > To vote, please visit the following web page:
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/just-a-minute/surveys?id=3056419
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

 
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Message 18 / 49
Don JudgeJul 24, 2011
 
 
As I have suggested before, it is a vehicle for comedians' skills so the point is, IMHO* obviously,  to get the most laughs**.
It's listed as "BBC Radio Comedy" after all. Same with all similar shows on both TV and radio: ISIHAC, HIGNFY, Buzzcocks etc

That's why I find in-depth discussions on here about non-strict-adherence to the rules a little tiresome and missing the point completely.

OK, there, I've said it, I'll get back to my bridge now...
He he!

* for the newsgroup uninitiated that is "In My Humble Opinion"
 
** Despite her being a 'good' comedienne - I usually switch off (metaphorically, obviously) when it's Sue's turn on JAM.

--
Cheers

Don   __o
      \<,
.....O/ O




From: David <drling0@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Sunday, 24 July 2011, 9:12
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute

 
I thought that this comment was interesting:

Peter Jones was terrible at the game

What does everybody think is the purpose of the game? To get the most points or to get the most laughs? I think that technically Sue Perkins is one of the best players ever...but she does not always make me laugh the most.

Just a thought.

Love as always, David

--- In just-a-minute@..., Julian Bishop <julianxbishop@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Don
>
> Peter Jones was terrible at the game, and he couldn't blame lack of practice! However, his contribution was sparing but usually exceptional. It was him who made you spit out your food with laughter.
>
> What a boring game it would be if they all went into it to win rather than entertain. Peter's contributions entertained.
>
> As to Peter's 100% (so far), I'm not sure who would vote for Wendy Richard. Miserableness personified.
>
> This poll is going to get more difficult in later rounds. Much more difficult to choose between Peter Jones and Kenneth Williams for example
>
> Julian Bishop
> +44 7771 822106
> www.julianxbishop.wordpress.com
> @julianxbishop
> www.julianbishop.linkedin.com
>
>
> On 22 Jul 2011, at 16:24, "Don Judge" <don@...> wrote:
>
> > Blimey, no doubt left with that result (so far anyway, 100% for Peter)
> >
> > I must say this is the first one where I didn't vote instantly, in every other vote I went for my favourite without even thinking about it.
> > I was weighing up Peter's lack of skill at the game (come on you can't argue with that, Shirley) against his razor-sharp wit and brilliantly cutting one-liners and Wendy's performances.
> >
> > I must say I liked her quite a lot in JAM, just a shame she came up against the Genius of Peter in this vote, in my world anyway.
> >
> > --
> > Cheers
> >
> > Don __o
> > \<,
> > .....O/ O
> >
> >
> >
> > From: deanbedford <dbedford@...>
> > To: just-a-minute@...
> > Sent: Friday, 22 July 2011, 12:42
> > Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute
> >
> >
> > A close vote but Derek Nimmo is added to the final eight...
> >
> > So...
> >
> > tough choice this - the witty and tough soapie star who made her mark in the early 90s? Or the avuncular actor and playwright who often came out with the funniest remark.
> >
> > Peter Jones? Wendy Richard? A tough choice but one you must make, NOW!
> >
> > > To vote, please visit the following web page:
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/just-a-minute/surveys?id=3056419
> >
> >
> >
> >
>




 
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Message 19 / 49
Dean BedfordJul 24, 2011
 
 
Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
just-a-minute group:

one on one arm wrestle - ROUND EIGHT

o Sue PERKINS
o Kenneth WILLIAMS


To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/just-a-minute/surveys?id=3056682

Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
web site listed above.

Thanks!
 
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Message 20 / 49
deanbedfordJul 24, 2011
 
 
Paul Merton is now in the final eight.

One more spot in the final eight - and you must choose between the current star, that clever and competitive comedienne Sue Perkins, and the show's self-described cult figure, Kenneth Williams.

VOTE NOW!

> To vote, please visit the following web page:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/just-a-minute/surveys?id=3056682

 
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Topic: Re: New poll for just-a-minute

Message 21 / 49
Dave BJul 24, 2011
 
 
Isn't it a radio debate, and if it's not a debate, what is it?


From: Don Judge <don@...>
To: "just-a-minute@..." <just-a-minute@...>
Sent: Sunday, 24 July 2011 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute

 
As I have suggested before, it is a vehicle for comedians' skills so the point is, IMHO* obviously,  to get the most laughs**.
It's listed as "BBC Radio Comedy" after all. Same with all similar shows on both TV and radio: ISIHAC, HIGNFY, Buzzcocks etc

That's why I find in-depth discussions on here about non-strict-adherence to the rules a little tiresome and missing the point completely.

OK, there, I've said it, I'll get back to my bridge now...
He he!

* for the newsgroup uninitiated that is "In My Humble Opinion"
 
** Despite her being a 'good' comedienne - I usually switch off (metaphorically, obviously) when it's Sue's turn on JAM.

--
Cheers

Don   __o
      \<,
.....O/ O




From: David <drling0@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Sunday, 24 July 2011, 9:12
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute

 
I thought that this comment was interesting:

Peter Jones was terrible at the game

What does everybody think is the purpose of the game? To get the most points or to get the most laughs? I think that technically Sue Perkins is one of the best players ever...but she does not always make me laugh the most.

Just a thought.

Love as always, David

--- In just-a-minute@..., Julian Bishop <julianxbishop@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Don
>
> Peter Jones was terrible at the game, and he couldn't blame lack of practice! However, his contribution was sparing but usually exceptional. It was him who made you spit out your food with laughter.
>
> What a boring game it would be if they all went into it to win rather than entertain. Peter's contributions entertained.
>
> As to Peter's 100% (so far), I'm not sure who would vote for Wendy Richard. Miserableness personified.
>
> This poll is going to get more difficult in later rounds. Much more difficult to choose between Peter Jones and Kenneth Williams for example
>
> Julian Bishop
> +44 7771 822106
> www.julianxbishop.wordpress.com
> @julianxbishop
> www.julianbishop.linkedin.com
>
>
> On 22 Jul 2011, at 16:24, "Don Judge" <don@...> wrote:
>
> > Blimey, no doubt left with that result (so far anyway, 100% for Peter)
> >
> > I must say this is the first one where I didn't vote instantly, in every other vote I went for my favourite without even thinking about it.
> > I was weighing up Peter's lack of skill at the game (come on you can't argue with that, Shirley) against his razor-sharp wit and brilliantly cutting one-liners and Wendy's performances.
> >
> > I must say I liked her quite a lot in JAM, just a shame she came up against the Genius of Peter in this vote, in my world anyway.
> >
> > --
> > Cheers
> >
> > Don __o
> > \<,
> > .....O/ O
> >
> >
> >
> > From: deanbedford <dbedford@...>
> > To: just-a-minute@...
> > Sent: Friday, 22 July 2011, 12:42
> > Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute
> >
> >
> > A close vote but Derek Nimmo is added to the final eight...
> >
> > So...
> >
> > tough choice this - the witty and tough soapie star who made her mark in the early 90s? Or the avuncular actor and playwright who often came out with the funniest remark.
> >
> > Peter Jones? Wendy Richard? A tough choice but one you must make, NOW!
> >
> > > To vote, please visit the following web page:
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/just-a-minute/surveys?id=3056419
> >
> >
> >
> >
>






 
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Message 22 / 49
Don JudgeJul 24, 2011
 
 
huh ?
 
--
Cheers

Don   __o
      \<,
.....O/ O




From: Dave B <pondydave@...>
To: "just-a-minute@..." <just-a-minute@...>
Sent: Sunday, 24 July 2011, 14:27
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute

 
Isn't it a radio debate, and if it's not a debate, what is it?


From: Don Judge <don@...>
To: "just-a-minute@..." <just-a-minute@...>
Sent: Sunday, 24 July 2011 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute

 
As I have suggested before, it is a vehicle for comedians' skills so the point is, IMHO* obviously,  to get the most laughs**.
It's listed as "BBC Radio Comedy" after all. Same with all similar shows on both TV and radio: ISIHAC, HIGNFY, Buzzcocks etc

That's why I find in-depth discussions on here about non-strict-adherence to the rules a little tiresome and missing the point completely.

OK, there, I've said it, I'll get back to my bridge now...
He he!

* for the newsgroup uninitiated that is "In My Humble Opinion"
 
** Despite her being a 'good' comedienne - I usually switch off (metaphorically, obviously) when it's Sue's turn on JAM.

--
Cheers

Don   __o
      \<,
.....O/ O




From: David <drling0@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Sunday, 24 July 2011, 9:12
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute

 
I thought that this comment was interesting:

Peter Jones was terrible at the game

What does everybody think is the purpose of the game? To get the most points or to get the most laughs? I think that technically Sue Perkins is one of the best players ever...but she does not always make me laugh the most.

Just a thought.

Love as always, David

--- In just-a-minute@..., Julian Bishop <julianxbishop@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Don
>
> Peter Jones was terrible at the game, and he couldn't blame lack of practice! However, his contribution was sparing but usually exceptional. It was him who made you spit out your food with laughter.
>
> What a boring game it would be if they all went into it to win rather than entertain. Peter's contributions entertained.
>
> As to Peter's 100% (so far), I'm not sure who would vote for Wendy Richard. Miserableness personified.
>
> This poll is going to get more difficult in later rounds. Much more difficult to choose between Peter Jones and Kenneth Williams for example
>
> Julian Bishop
> +44 7771 822106
> www.julianxbishop.wordpress.com
> @julianxbishop
> www.julianbishop.linkedin.com
>
>
> On 22 Jul 2011, at 16:24, "Don Judge" <don@...> wrote:
>
> > Blimey, no doubt left with that result (so far anyway, 100% for Peter)
> >
> > I must say this is the first one where I didn't vote instantly, in every other vote I went for my favourite without even thinking about it.
> > I was weighing up Peter's lack of skill at the game (come on you can't argue with that, Shirley) against his razor-sharp wit and brilliantly cutting one-liners and Wendy's performances.
> >
> > I must say I liked her quite a lot in JAM, just a shame she came up against the Genius of Peter in this vote, in my world anyway.
> >
> > --
> > Cheers
> >
> > Don __o
> > \<,
> > .....O/ O
> >
> >
> >
> > From: deanbedford <dbedford@...>
> > To: just-a-minute@...
> > Sent: Friday, 22 July 2011, 12:42
> > Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute
> >
> >
> > A close vote but Derek Nimmo is added to the final eight...
> >
> > So...
> >
> > tough choice this - the witty and tough soapie star who made her mark in the early 90s? Or the avuncular actor and playwright who often came out with the funniest remark.
> >
> > Peter Jones? Wendy Richard? A tough choice but one you must make, NOW!
> >
> > > To vote, please visit the following web page:
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/just-a-minute/surveys?id=3056419
> >
> >
> >
> >
>








 
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Message 23 / 49
Dave BJul 24, 2011
 
 
I was sort of quoting Tim Rice in one of those excellent episodes with Stephen Fry, Clement and Paul. "Were having a  debate now". 

They also had something about CCTV, repetition, no one would challenge as its on the card, and then Clement challenges, and a glorious paradox played up by Stephen in that pair of shows!


From: Don Judge <don@...>
To: "just-a-minute@..." <just-a-minute@...>
Sent: Sunday, 24 July 2011 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute

 
huh ?
 
--
Cheers

Don   __o
      \<,
.....O/ O




From: Dave B <pondydave@...>
To: "just-a-minute@..." <just-a-minute@...>
Sent: Sunday, 24 July 2011, 14:27
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute

 
Isn't it a radio debate, and if it's not a debate, what is it?


From: Don Judge <don@...>
To: "just-a-minute@..." <just-a-minute@...>
Sent: Sunday, 24 July 2011 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute

 
As I have suggested before, it is a vehicle for comedians' skills so the point is, IMHO* obviously,  to get the most laughs**.
It's listed as "BBC Radio Comedy" after all. Same with all similar shows on both TV and radio: ISIHAC, HIGNFY, Buzzcocks etc

That's why I find in-depth discussions on here about non-strict-adherence to the rules a little tiresome and missing the point completely.

OK, there, I've said it, I'll get back to my bridge now...
He he!

* for the newsgroup uninitiated that is "In My Humble Opinion"
 
** Despite her being a 'good' comedienne - I usually switch off (metaphorically, obviously) when it's Sue's turn on JAM.

--
Cheers

Don   __o
      \<,
.....O/ O




From: David <drling0@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Sunday, 24 July 2011, 9:12
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute

 
I thought that this comment was interesting:

Peter Jones was terrible at the game

What does everybody think is the purpose of the game? To get the most points or to get the most laughs? I think that technically Sue Perkins is one of the best players ever...but she does not always make me laugh the most.

Just a thought.

Love as always, David

--- In just-a-minute@..., Julian Bishop <julianxbishop@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Don
>
> Peter Jones was terrible at the game, and he couldn't blame lack of practice! However, his contribution was sparing but usually exceptional. It was him who made you spit out your food with laughter.
>
> What a boring game it would be if they all went into it to win rather than entertain. Peter's contributions entertained.
>
> As to Peter's 100% (so far), I'm not sure who would vote for Wendy Richard. Miserableness personified.
>
> This poll is going to get more difficult in later rounds. Much more difficult to choose between Peter Jones and Kenneth Williams for example
>
> Julian Bishop
> +44 7771 822106
> www.julianxbishop.wordpress.com
> @julianxbishop
> www.julianbishop.linkedin.com
>
>
> On 22 Jul 2011, at 16:24, "Don Judge" <don@...> wrote:
>
> > Blimey, no doubt left with that result (so far anyway, 100% for Peter)
> >
> > I must say this is the first one where I didn't vote instantly, in every other vote I went for my favourite without even thinking about it.
> > I was weighing up Peter's lack of skill at the game (come on you can't argue with that, Shirley) against his razor-sharp wit and brilliantly cutting one-liners and Wendy's performances.
> >
> > I must say I liked her quite a lot in JAM, just a shame she came up against the Genius of Peter in this vote, in my world anyway.
> >
> > --
> > Cheers
> >
> > Don __o
> > \<,
> > .....O/ O
> >
> >
> >
> > From: deanbedford <dbedford@...>
> > To: just-a-minute@...
> > Sent: Friday, 22 July 2011, 12:42
> > Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute
> >
> >
> > A close vote but Derek Nimmo is added to the final eight...
> >
> > So...
> >
> > tough choice this - the witty and tough soapie star who made her mark in the early 90s? Or the avuncular actor and playwright who often came out with the funniest remark.
> >
> > Peter Jones? Wendy Richard? A tough choice but one you must make, NOW!
> >
> > > To vote, please visit the following web page:
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/just-a-minute/surveys?id=3056419
> >
> >
> >
> >
>










 
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Topic: Re: New poll for just-a-minute

Message 24 / 49
mathewJul 24, 2011
 
 
As someone said previously, if forget who, sorry, Sue is great at playing the game but she doesnt bring many laughs. Kenneth, in my opinion, was both.

There was a good point raised previously regarding is it better to be great at playing the game whilst not providing as much hilarity or vice versa. Terry Wogan brought so many laughs to when he participated a couple of seasons ago but wasnt that great a player.

Personally I'd rather have the laughs.

--- In just-a-minute@..., just-a-minute@... wrote:
>
>
> Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
> just-a-minute group:
>
> one on one arm wrestle - ROUND EIGHT
>
> o Sue PERKINS
> o Kenneth WILLIAMS
>
>
> To vote, please visit the following web page:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/just-a-minute/surveys?id=3056682
>
> Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
> not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
> web site listed above.
>
> Thanks!
>

 
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Topic: Re: New poll for just-a-minute

Message 25 / 49
delmelzaJul 24, 2011
 
 
In the words of Nicholas:" It's the contribution that Counts" :)

( but if the person is Hopeless at the game it can get a bit hard to laugh after a while- JMO)





--- In just-a-minute@..., "mathew" <mat_bagnall@...> wrote:
>
> As someone said previously, if forget who, sorry, Sue is great at playing the game but she doesnt bring many laughs. Kenneth, in my opinion, was both.
>
> There was a good point raised previously regarding is it better to be great at playing the game whilst not providing as much hilarity or vice versa. Terry Wogan brought so many laughs to when he participated a couple of seasons ago but wasnt that great a player.
>
> Personally I'd rather have the laughs.
>
> --- In just-a-minute@..., just-a-minute@... wrote:
> >
> >
> > Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
> > just-a-minute group:
> >
> > one on one arm wrestle - ROUND EIGHT
> >
> > o Sue PERKINS
> > o Kenneth WILLIAMS
> >
> >
> > To vote, please visit the following web page:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/just-a-minute/surveys?id=3056682
> >
> > Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
> > not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
> > web site listed above.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
>

 
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Topic: New poll for just-a-minute

Message 26 / 49
Dean BedfordJul 25, 2011
 
 
Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
just-a-minute group:

one on one arm wrestle - FIRST QUARTER-FINAL

o Gyles BRANDRETH
o Clement FREUD


To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/just-a-minute/surveys?id=3056768

Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
web site listed above.

Thanks!
 
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Topic: Re: New poll for just-a-minute

Message 27 / 49
deanbedfordJul 25, 2011
 
 
Kenneth Williams is added to the final eight. So the only one of the top eight seeds not to go through to the next round was Graham Norton. And he - eighth seed - was beaten by the ninth seed!

So to the quarter-finals. The first poll pits the two ex-MPs against each other. GYLES BRANDRETH or CLEMENT FREUD? A tough choice...

VOTE NOW!

> To vote, please visit the following web page:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/just-a-minute/surveys?id=3056768

 
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Topic: New poll for just-a-minute

Message 28 / 49
Dean BedfordJul 26, 2011
 
 
Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
just-a-minute group:

one on one arm wrestle - SECOND QUARTER-FINAL

o Sheila HANCOCK
o Kenneth WILLIAMS


To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/just-a-minute/surveys?id=3056957

Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
web site listed above.

Thanks!
 
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Topic: Re: New poll for just-a-minute

Message 29 / 49
deanbedfordJul 26, 2011
 
 
Clement Freud is the first semi-finallist.

Next - two old friends in a fight to the end. The actress whose appaearances stretch from the second show in 1967 to this year? Or the kingpin of the first 20 years... JAM's most unique character?

Choose between SHEILA HANCOCK and KENNETH WILLIAMS!

VOTE NOW!

> To vote, please visit the following web page:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/just-a-minute/surveys?id=3056957

 
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Topic: Re: New poll for just-a-minute

Message 30 / 49
Lynn Vesley-GrossJul 26, 2011
 
 
In my time zone (GMT-4) I get these latest polls first thing in the morning. An amusing and cheerful way to start the day. Thank you Dean. Sheila Hancock vs. Kenneth was awful tough though.  I voted for KW because I probably never would have found the show but for his involvement and I think his contribution was huge. I admire SH too but it would be about the same show today with or without her appearances, and I don't think that's true about Kenneth.
It is running 50-50! Those who haven't voted: remember to weigh in on this one. Dean, what will you do if you get a tie??


From: deanbedford <dbedford@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 7:02 AM
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute

 
Clement Freud is the first semi-finallist.

Next - two old friends in a fight to the end. The actress whose appaearances stretch from the second show in 1967 to this year? Or the kingpin of the first 20 years... JAM's most unique character?

Choose between SHEILA HANCOCK and KENNETH WILLIAMS!

VOTE NOW!

> To vote, please visit the following web page:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/just-a-minute/surveys?id=3056957




 
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Topic: New poll for just-a-minute

Message 31 / 49
Dean BedfordJul 27, 2011
 
 
Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
just-a-minute group:

one on one poll - THIRD QUARTER FINAL

o Tony HAWKS
o Peter JONES


To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/just-a-minute/surveys?id=3057116

Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
web site listed above.

Thanks!
 
<<<<   5765   >>>>

Topic: Re: New poll for just-a-minute

Message 32 / 49
deanbedfordJul 27, 2011
 
 
A close race but Kenneth Williams is now in the final four.

So another tough choice - TONY HAWKS or PETER JONES?

VOTE NOW!

> To vote, please visit the following web page:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/just-a-minute/surveys?id=3057116

 
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Topic: Re: New poll for just-a-minute

Message 33 / 49
DeanJul 27, 2011
 
 
thanks Lynn – I have deliberately not voted in any of the polls so I can legitimately have a casting vote!
 
 
 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute
 
 

In my time zone (GMT-4) I get these latest polls first thing in the morning. An amusing and cheerful way to start the day. Thank you Dean. Sheila Hancock vs. Kenneth was awful tough though.  I voted for KW because I probably never would have found the show but for his involvement and I think his contribution was huge. I admire SH too but it would be about the same show today with or without her appearances, and I don't think that's true about Kenneth.
It is running 50-50! Those who haven't voted: remember to weigh in on this one. Dean, what will you do if you get a tie??

 
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Topic: Re: New poll for just-a-minute

Message 34 / 49
Lynn Vesley-GrossJul 27, 2011
 
 
Ah, an excellent way to do it. I wondered whether you were voting. Well planned.
Lynn


From: Dean <dbedford@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute

 
thanks Lynn – I have deliberately not voted in any of the polls so I can legitimately have a casting vote!
 
 



 
<<<<   5778   >>>>

Topic: New poll for just-a-minute

Message 35 / 49
Dean BedfordJul 28, 2011
 
 
Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
just-a-minute group:

one on one arm wrestle - FOURTH QUARTER-FINAL

o Paul MERTON
o Derek NIMMO


To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/just-a-minute/surveys?id=3057285

Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
web site listed above.

Thanks!
 
<<<<   5779   >>>>

Topic: Re: New poll for just-a-minute

Message 36 / 49
deanbedfordJul 28, 2011
 
 
Unsurprisingly Peter Jones is in the top four.

So the last quarter-final - one of the giants of the gang of four - or the current master who the show is so reliant on.

PAUL MERTON? or DEREK NIMMO? The choice is yours. Decide who should be the last one in the top four.

VOTE NOW!

> To vote, please visit the following web page:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/just-a-minute/surveys?id=3057285
>

 
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Topic: New poll for just-a-minute

Message 37 / 49
Dean BedfordJul 29, 2011
 
 
Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
just-a-minute group:

one on one poll - FIRST SEMI-FINAL

o Clement FREUD
o PAUL MERTON


To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/just-a-minute/surveys?id=3057417

Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
web site listed above.

Thanks!
 
<<<<   5785   >>>>

Topic: Re: New poll for just-a-minute

Message 38 / 49
deanbedfordJul 29, 2011
 
 
So... we are down to a final four. But we must cull two more...

They sat together for 20 years on Just A Minute. The surreal improviser or Just A Minute's most frequent panellist?

Tough choice... let's have two days to vote and choose between CLEMENT FREUD and PAUL MERTON.

VOTE NOW!

> To vote, please visit the following web page:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/just-a-minute/surveys?id=3057417

 
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Topic: Re: New poll for just-a-minute

Message 39 / 49
deanbedfordJul 30, 2011
 
 
A reminder to vote on this... just one vote in it at the moment. I'll keep it open for another 12 hours or so.



> CLEMENT FREUD or PAUL MERTON????

VOTE NOW!
>
> > To vote, please visit the following web page:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/just-a-minute/surveys?id=3057417
>

 
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Topic: Re: New poll for just-a-minute

Message 40 / 49
Don JudgeJul 30, 2011
 
 
not so Dean, 19 votes when I last looked...
 
--
Cheers

Don   __o
      \<,
.....O/ O




From: deanbedford <dbedford@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Saturday, 30 July 2011, 21:33
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute

 
A reminder to vote on this... just one vote in it at the moment. I'll keep it open for another 12 hours or so.

> CLEMENT FREUD or PAUL MERTON????

VOTE NOW!
>
> > To vote, please visit the following web page:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/just-a-minute/surveys?id=3057417
>




 
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Topic: Re: New poll for just-a-minute

Message 41 / 49
DeanJul 30, 2011
 
 
but the vote is 10 to 9 – just one vote between them.
 
 
 
 
From: Don Judge
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute
 
 

not so Dean, 19 votes when I last looked...
 
--
Cheers

Don   __o
      \<,
.....O/ O




From: deanbedford <dbedford@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Saturday, 30 July 2011, 21:33
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute

 
A reminder to vote on this... just one vote in it at the moment. I'll keep it open for another 12 hours or so.

> CLEMENT FREUD or PAUL MERTON????

VOTE NOW!
>
> > To vote, please visit the following web page:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/just-a-minute/surveys?id=3057417
>




 
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Topic: New poll for just-a-minute

Message 42 / 49
Dean BedfordJul 31, 2011
 
 
Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
just-a-minute group:

one on one arm wrestle - SECOND SEMI-FINAL

o Peter JONES
o Kenneth WILLIAMS


To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/just-a-minute/surveys?id=3057609

Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
web site listed above.

Thanks!
 
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Topic: Re: New poll for just-a-minute

Message 43 / 49
deanbedfordJul 31, 2011
 
 
Clememt Freud beat Paul Merton for the first place in the final.

You now have two days to chose between PETER JONES and KENNETH WILLIAMS.

That lasst vote was really close - you have two days to choose between these two greats.

VOTE NOW!

> To vote, please visit the following web page:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/just-a-minute/surveys?id=3057609

 
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Topic: Re: New poll for just-a-minute

Message 44 / 49
Espen KrømkeJul 31, 2011
 
 
On 31. juli 2011 12:55, deanbedford wrote:
 

Clememt Freud beat Paul Merton for the first place in the final.



That's... Unbelievable!


 
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Topic: Re: New poll for just-a-minute

Message 45 / 49
Steve KenrickJul 31, 2011
 
 
I know this is only a bit of fun, but I would have been much happier if the poll had finished after the quarter final, when we had narrowed the list down to four people, i.e. a panel. The problem I have now and I know it's very silly to have these thoughts, is that every choice leads me to feel disloyal to the person who doesn't get my vote. It's true that I could have abstained but then I would feel like a wimp!  Life is hard, isn't it?

Having said that, I see we have had very little lobbying during the course of this poll, so (hoping that I'm not upsetting Dean or anybody else)..........

VOTE FOR KENNETH



 


To: just-a-minute@...
From: dbedford@...
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 10:55:16 +0000
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute

 
Clememt Freud beat Paul Merton for the first place in the final.

You now have two days to chose between PETER JONES and KENNETH WILLIAMS.

That lasst vote was really close - you have two days to choose between these two greats.

VOTE NOW!

> To vote, please visit the following web page:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/just-a-minute/surveys?id=3057609



 
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Topic: Re: New poll for just-a-minute

Message 46 / 49
Steve KenrickJul 31, 2011
 
 
Yes, interesting result. 

It would also be interesting to know the ages of the voters.

For myself, in recent times, I was happiest when the panel included both Clement and Paul. 


To: just-a-minute@...
From: espen.kromke@...
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 13:13:15 +0200
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute

 
On 31. juli 2011 12:55, deanbedford wrote:
 
Clememt Freud beat Paul Merton for the first place in the final.



That's... Unbelievable!



 
<<<<   5805   >>>>

Topic: Re: New poll for just-a-minute

Message 47 / 49
Julian BishopJul 31, 2011
 
 
45, but then I voted for Paul

Whatever happens now, we have a posthumous winner



Julian Bishop
+44 7771 822106
www.julianxbishop.wordpress.com
@julianxbishop
www.julianbishop.linkedin.com


On 31 Jul 2011, at 12:55, "Steve Kenrick" <steve.kenrick@...> wrote:

 

Yes, interesting result. 

It would also be interesting to know the ages of the voters.

For myself, in recent times, I was happiest when the panel included both Clement and Paul. 


To: just-a-minute@...
From: espen.kromke@...
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 13:13:15 +0200
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute

 
On 31. juli 2011 12:55, deanbedford wrote:
 
Clememt Freud beat Paul Merton for the first place in the final.



That's... Unbelievable!



 
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Topic: Re: New poll for just-a-minute

Message 48 / 49
Espen KrømkeJul 31, 2011
 
 
42, but I voted for Paul too.


On 31. juli 2011 13:52, Steve Kenrick wrote:
 

Yes, interesting result. 

It would also be interesting to know the ages of the voters.

For myself, in recent times, I was happiest when the panel included both Clement and Paul. 


To: just-a-minute@...
From: espen.kromke@...
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 13:13:15 +0200
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute

 
On 31. juli 2011 12:55, deanbedford wrote:
 
Clememt Freud beat Paul Merton for the first place in the final.



That's... Unbelievable!




 
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Topic: Re: New poll for just-a-minute

Message 49 / 49
PaulJul 31, 2011
 
 
--- In just-a-minute@..., Espen Krømke <espen.kromke@...> wrote:
>
> 42, but I voted for Paul too.
>
>
> On 31. juli 2011 13:52, Steve Kenrick wrote:
> >
> > Yes, interesting result.
> >
> > It would also be interesting to know the ages of the voters.
> >
> > For myself, in recent times, I was happiest when the panel included
> > both Clement and Paul.
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To: just-a-minute@...
> > From: espen.kromke@...
> > Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 13:13:15 +0200
> > Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute
> >
> > On 31. juli 2011 12:55, deanbedford wrote:
> >
> > Clememt Freud beat Paul Merton for the first place in the final.
> >
> >
> >
> > That's... Unbelievable!
> >
> >
> >
>

Not really. People associate JAM with Clement Freud more, and he is recently deceased, which is another reason people will vote for him.
 
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