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Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
just-a-minute group:
one on one arm wrestle - ROUND SIX
o Peter JONES
o Wendy RICHARD
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A close vote but Derek Nimmo is added to the final eight...
So...
tough choice this - the witty and tough soapie star who made her mark in the early 90s? Or the avuncular actor and playwright who often came out with the funniest remark.
Peter Jones? Wendy Richard? A tough choice but one you must make, NOW!
> To vote, please visit the following web page:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/just-a-minute/surveys?id=3056419
Blimey, no doubt left with that result (so far anyway, 100% for Peter)
I must say this is the first one where I didn't vote instantly, in every other vote I went for my favourite without even thinking about it.
I was weighing up Peter's lack of skill at the game (come on you can't argue with that, Shirley) against his razor-sharp wit and brilliantly cutting one-liners and Wendy's performances.
I must say I liked her quite a lot in JAM, just a shame she came up against the Genius of Peter in this vote, in my world anyway.
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From: deanbedford <dbedford@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Friday, 22 July 2011, 12:42
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minuteA close vote but Derek Nimmo is added to the final eight...
So...
tough choice this - the witty and tough soapie star who made her mark in the early 90s? Or the avuncular actor and playwright who often came out with the funniest remark.
Peter Jones? Wendy Richard? A tough choice but one you must make, NOW!
> To vote, please visit the following web page:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/just-a-minute/surveys?id=3056419
Hi Don
Peter Jones was terrible at the game, and he couldn't blame lack of practice! However, his contribution was sparing but usually exceptional. It was him who made you spit out your food with laughter.
What a boring game it would be if they all went into it to win rather than entertain. Peter's contributions entertained.
As to Peter's 100% (so far), I'm not sure who would vote for Wendy Richard. Miserableness personified.
This poll is going to get more difficult in later rounds. Much more difficult to choose between Peter Jones and Kenneth Williams for example
Julian Bishop
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On 22 Jul 2011, at 16:24, "Don Judge" <don@...> wrote:
Blimey, no doubt left with that result (so far anyway, 100% for Peter)I must say this is the first one where I didn't vote instantly, in every other vote I went for my favourite without even thinking about it.I was weighing up Peter's lack of skill at the game (come on you can't argue with that, Shirley) against his razor-sharp wit and brilliantly cutting one-liners and Wendy's performances.I must say I liked her quite a lot in JAM, just a shame she came up against the Genius of Peter in this vote, in my world anyway.--
Cheers
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From: deanbedford <dbedford@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Friday, 22 July 2011, 12:42
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minuteA close vote but Derek Nimmo is added to the final eight...
So...
tough choice this - the witty and tough soapie star who made her mark in the early 90s? Or the avuncular actor and playwright who often came out with the funniest remark.
Peter Jones? Wendy Richard? A tough choice but one you must make, NOW!
> To vote, please visit the following web page:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/just-a-minute/surveys?id=3056419
on Kenneth, I can understand why not everyone would appreciate him. He is
entirely unique. But – one of the great things about Espen’s stream is that you
can listen to a Kenneth era show chosen at random and then a Paul era show also
chosen at random and compare them – all the time.
I
know Nicholas has said the shows are funnier these days and someone else said
the same here. I think the difference is these days is that when the panellists
are speaking on the subject, they always try to have frequent laugh lines.
Thirty and 40 years ago, they did sometimes take the subject seriously and try
to be informative. Not just Kenneth and his historical subjects but the others
too. Now they never do. Last year we had John Sergeant trying to take subjects
seriously and he was ridiculed by all the others. But had he appeared in say
1974, he’d probably have been applauded for managing to continue for long
periods without breaking the rules.
But
if I am choosing shows to listen to, I usually pick a Kenneth-era show. Because
he is the one that regularly makes me laugh out loud. Because he provides the
unexpected, the moments of drama. He can change so frequently. There was one
show I was listening to yesterday where he was speaking and Kenneth was then
challenged and there was a bit of argument about the challenge and Nicholas
tried to move on by saying “oh well Kenneth you did hesitate there but we all
thought you were lovely there...”and Kenneth came in with this gay voice saying
“"oh I bet you say that to all the boys!” I happened to have a mouthful of
orange juice at the time which ended up all over my nice new shirt. It was just
perfectly timed and phrased.
No-one
could admire Paul’s improvisational skills more than me. He is the King Kong of
the show these days and I do think if he chucked it in, the show would die. But
Kenneth
with his voices, his different styles, his knowledge – just a genius.. and i
think of all he did it was Just A Minute that showed him off best...
From: Dave B
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 5:35 AM
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for
just-a-minute
Speaking
of Julian, you may recall his red box incident when he was barred from UK TV for
a while.
If
you don't know about this and want to know more then this forum link may
help
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=212813.
and Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAU7pATH5_M
On the subject of Kenneth, my dad had the radio on at tea time every
evening through the 1960s and 1970s, so I guess, as a small child, I heard every
JAM episode back then though all I can recall is Kenneth's voice, and maybe
Sheila, and certainly Nick, until I finally caught the bug and started recording
the shows when our first cassette recorder appeared in the house. Like I think
Dean has written, listening to Just A Minute back then was a case constantly
wanting Kenneth to win, cheering every time he went in to the lead (right),
feeling saddened if he let it slip, and whooping if he actually won, usually not
against the 3 other boys. It was almost like watching an England World Cup
football match.....wanting it to happen but knowing it never would...but having
a jolly good want. That's what it was like back then. Throughout the late 1990s
up to today I listened (when work allowed) for something different, and that was
a team of players having fun together and really passing the subject around,
almost like that non existent England football team should have been doing with
the ball.
I still have not had the courage to go back in time and listen to Kenneth
and that time. Additionally the Nick-bating was cruel, whereas in the last few
years every series has had a subject concerning the Chairman, because the
treatment would be pure fantasy and fun, rather than cruel.
It may be interesting to do what Matthew is doing. Start at the beginning
and work one's way up to 2011.
Dave
From: nylon net <nylon@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Wednesday, 13 July 2011 3:58 AM
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute
I do love our Kenny, but like most rich dishes, a little of him can often
go a long way ;-)
But at least he had variety in his personas. Unlike many one-dimensional "characters" in the media, he could change from fey to pompous to brutally aggressive to seductive to erudite to Cockney to Oxford and back to fey within 60 seconds.
Speaking of one-dimensional characters, I sometimes wonder why Julian Clary has stood the test of time with his single-entendre character, but I can only put it down to an indefinable bucketload of charisma and a great intelligence - and he always seems to be winking at you with a wry smile as if to say, "Yes, we both know it's silly, but just go along with it" and you do, because you're in on the joke.
Or not.
Mark
But at least he had variety in his personas. Unlike many one-dimensional "characters" in the media, he could change from fey to pompous to brutally aggressive to seductive to erudite to Cockney to Oxford and back to fey within 60 seconds.
Speaking of one-dimensional characters, I sometimes wonder why Julian Clary has stood the test of time with his single-entendre character, but I can only put it down to an indefinable bucketload of charisma and a great intelligence - and he always seems to be winking at you with a wry smile as if to say, "Yes, we both know it's silly, but just go along with it" and you do, because you're in on the joke.
Or not.
Mark
From: espen.kromke@...
Sent: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 12:48:38 +0200
To: just-a-minute@...
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minuteOn 12. juli 2011 01:31, mathew wrote:Kenneth Williams. Listening to him cracks me up every time. I really do like it when Kenneth goes off on one during the shows. Clement changed his style as the show went on however was very consistant throughout his tenure.
My dream 4 would feature Kenneth Williams, Paul Merton and Kenneth Williams as the first 3, not sure about the other.
Well, in the episodes where Williams is featured he already is featured twice as much as the others. :D
If Kenneth was still i JAM, I can say for certain I would not have listened to JAM today.
And if what Clement say in the jam documentary is true, JAM gained significantly more listeners after Williams died so at least I'm not the only one with that opinion - although I might be in the minority on this list. :)Send your photos by email in seconds...
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Oh meant to say in the other post – I think they worked more as a team in
the past... the repartee and arguments are generally better in the past...
From: mathew
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 9:27 AM
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for
just-a-minute
Have been listening to the very early series' and their not as funny as
nowadays. I'd also agree that Kenneth wasnt a team player as such. However there
are many occasions when its Kenneth who would provide the laugh.
It will
be good to hear the shows development through the series and the
years.
.
I don’t disagree with this generally. But I reckon the genius of JAM is
that 95 percent of the shows really do still stand up very well. The first
season wasn’t good and I think some of the shows in the early 90s before Paul
really hit his straps are flat. But there’s not many...
From: nylon net
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 3:14 PM
Subject: RE: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for
just-a-minute
It's hard judging comedy from 40 years ago. It's so heavily based on
current culture, trends and attitudes. How many people think Shakespeare's
comedies are worth rolling around on the floor for? Listen to "Much
Binding in the Marsh" and ask yourself how funny it is now. (But I must
admit I quite like it even though I don't understand most of it. Strange,
that.)
We change, the recorded comedy doesn't.
Remember
when Ben Elton was the hottest thing in funny stuff? I remember thinking
Alexei Sayle was the funniest man on TV. Today I can watch their repeats
and start remembering the great days I had watching paint dry.
It's a
very rare thing for a comedy to transcend decades and still generate a genuine
LOL: the Goons can still make me weep; an unexpected moment in Round the Horn
can make me snort milk from my nose (especially impressive because I don't drink
milk. Must see the doctor about that); I can alarm passersby as I grin while
walking down the street with my MP3 player producing great Humph lines from
ISIHAC.
The shelf life of comedy is not nearly as long as you
might think. If you don't believe me, try watching any Norman Wisdom
movie. (IMHO, of course).
So please be gentle judging old
funnymen. If they can even make you smile 50 years later, they must have
been doing something brilliant back then.
2.2 cents worth, including
tax.
Mark
nylon@...
-----Original Message-----
From: mat_bagnall@...
Sent: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 21:27:03 -0000
To: just-a-minute@...
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minuteHave been listening to the very early series' and their not as funny as nowadays. I'd also agree that Kenneth wasnt a team player as such. However there are many occasions when its Kenneth who would provide the laugh.
It will be good to hear the shows development through the series and the years.
--- In mailto:just-a-minute%40..., Julian Bishop <julianxbishop@...> wrote:
>
> I think KW was a team player. He was regularly asked by the producer to rescue a show when there hadn't been a laugh for a while. He was my favourite when I was a boy. I loved it when he won (a real rarity). We now know that KW was a very unhappy (who loathed himself). I think these days it would be much easier for him to come to terms with his homosexuality.
>
> IMO JAM is much funnier now (more comedians) and I agree with you entirely that it's a team game. The really good stuff comes from interplay between two or more players.
>
> Julian Bishop
> +44 7771 822106
> www.julianxbishop.wordpress.com
> @julianxbishop
> www.julianbishop.linkedin.com
>
>
> On 12 Jul 2011, at 19:29, "kj.naughton" <kj.naughton@...> wrote:
>
> > Hello Mathew,
> >
> > He's probably only viewed negatively by some. Others will love him. The same is true for modern-day players. Personally Gyles Brandreth gets right up my goat but I know that others think he's great. I quite like Liza Tarbuck in JaM; I know others don't agree with me.
> >
> > I have to say that I'm not a KW fan though. I'm not a fan of the older series either. I haven't decided whether those two are related; I suspect not because I'm not a fan of old Clues either.
> >
> > I see JaM as working best when it's full of team players. I know it's an individual game but I like everyone to be involved and given a go and I love it when players bounce off each other. Some of my favourite players do just that; Paul Merton, Tony Hawks, Ross Noble, et al.
> >
> > Kenneth seemed either to like to dominate proceedings or he retreated into a sulk, neither of which are characteristics which make for a good performance.
> >
> > All, of course, IMHO. Other opinions are available.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > kJ
> >
> > --- In mailto:just-a-minute%40..., "mathew" <mat_bagnall@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Being new to the site am wondering why Kenneth Williams is viewed negatively.
> > >
> >
> >
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Yes, that what I was clumsily trying to get to. The fact the JAM can still be entertaining decades after broadcast is a testament to the skills of the panelists and the strategy of the game.
ISIHAC needs dozens of game formats to keep it fresh while JAM's single format has never changed.
Regards
--
Mark
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: dbedford@...
Sent: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 08:52:15 +1200
To: just-a-minute@...
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minuteI don’t disagree with this generally. But I reckon the genius of JAM is that 95 percent of the shows really do still stand up very well. The first season wasn’t good and I think some of the shows in the early 90s before Paul really hit his straps are flat. But there’s not many...From: nylon netSent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 3:14 PMSubject: RE: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minuteIt's hard judging comedy from 40 years ago. It's so heavily based on current culture, trends and attitudes. How many people think Shakespeare's comedies are worth rolling around on the floor for? Listen to "Much Binding in the Marsh" and ask yourself how funny it is now. (But I must admit I quite like it even though I don't understand most of it. Strange, that.)
We change, the recorded comedy doesn't.
Remember when Ben Elton was the hottest thing in funny stuff? I remember thinking Alexei Sayle was the funniest man on TV. Today I can watch their repeats and start remembering the great days I had watching paint dry.
It's a very rare thing for a comedy to transcend decades and still generate a genuine LOL: the Goons can still make me weep; an unexpected moment in Round the Horn can make me snort milk from my nose (especially impressive because I don't drink milk. Must see the doctor about that); I can alarm passersby as I grin while walking down the street with my MP3 player producing great Humph lines from ISIHAC.
The shelf life of comedy is not nearly as long as you might think. If you don't believe me, try watching any Norman Wisdom movie. (IMHO, of course).
So please be gentle judging old funnymen. If they can even make you smile 50 years later, they must have been doing something brilliant back then.
2.2 cents worth, including tax.
Marknylon@...-----Original Message-----
From: mat_bagnall@...
Sent: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 21:27:03 -0000
To: just-a-minute@...
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minuteHave been listening to the very early series' and their not as funny as nowadays. I'd also agree that Kenneth wasnt a team player as such. However there are many occasions when its Kenneth who would provide the laugh.
It will be good to hear the shows development through the series and the years.
--- In mailto:just-a-minute%40..., Julian Bishop <julianxbishop@...> wrote:
>
> I think KW was a team player. He was regularly asked by the producer to rescue a show when there hadn't been a laugh for a while. He was my favourite when I was a boy. I loved it when he won (a real rarity). We now know that KW was a very unhappy (who loathed himself). I think these days it would be much easier for him to come to terms with his homosexuality.
>
> IMO JAM is much funnier now (more comedians) and I agree with you entirely that it's a team game. The really good stuff comes from interplay between two or more players.
>
> Julian Bishop
> +44 7771 822106
> www.julianxbishop.wordpress.com
> @julianxbishop
> www.julianbishop.linkedin.com
>
>
> On 12 Jul 2011, at 19:29, "kj.naughton" <kj.naughton@...> wrote:
>
> > Hello Mathew,
> >
> > He's probably only viewed negatively by some. Others will love him. The same is true for modern-day players. Personally Gyles Brandreth gets right up my goat but I know that others think he's great. I quite like Liza Tarbuck in JaM; I know others don't agree with me.
> >
> > I have to say that I'm not a KW fan though. I'm not a fan of the older series either. I haven't decided whether those two are related; I suspect not because I'm not a fan of old Clues either.
> >
> > I see JaM as working best when it's full of team players. I know it's an individual game but I like everyone to be involved and given a go and I love it when players bounce off each other. Some of my favourite players do just that; Paul Merton, Tony Hawks, Ross Noble, et al.
> >
> > Kenneth seemed either to like to dominate proceedings or he retreated into a sulk, neither of which are characteristics which make for a good performance.
> >
> > All, of course, IMHO. Other opinions are available.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > kJ
> >
> > --- In mailto:just-a-minute%40..., "mathew" <mat_bagnall@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Being new to the site am wondering why Kenneth Williams is viewed negatively.
> > >
> >
> >
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The only time I found Kenneth uncontorted was in the film Carry on Nurse from 1959 and he played a lovely, intelligent and warm hospital patient.
I was looking around for a video link which showed this but was unsuccessful, though some clips and a movie trailer are available.
This one (6th one down) is of
interest for it shows Ken dubbed into German (early into the video)
http://www.ovguide.com/movies_tv/carry_on_nurse.htm
Dave
From: Dean <dbedford@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Friday, 22 July 2011 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute
on Kenneth, I can understand why not everyone would appreciate him. He is
entirely unique. But – one of the great things about Espen’s stream is that you
can listen to a Kenneth era show chosen at random and then a Paul era show also
chosen at random and compare them – all the time.
I
know Nicholas has said the shows are funnier these days and someone else said
the same here. I think the difference is these days is that when the panellists
are speaking on the subject, they always try to have frequent laugh lines.
Thirty and 40 years ago, they did sometimes take the subject seriously and try
to be informative. Not just Kenneth and his historical subjects but the others
too. Now they never do. Last year we had John Sergeant trying to take subjects
seriously and he was ridiculed by all the others. But had he appeared in say
1974, he’d probably have been applauded for managing to continue for long
periods without breaking the rules.
But
if I am choosing shows to listen to, I usually pick a Kenneth-era show. Because
he is the one that regularly makes me laugh out loud. Because he provides the
unexpected, the moments of drama. He can change so frequently. There was one
show I was listening to yesterday where he was speaking and Kenneth was then
challenged and there was a bit of argument about the challenge and Nicholas
tried to move on by saying “oh well Kenneth you did hesitate there but we all
thought you were lovely there...”and Kenneth came in with this gay voice saying
“"oh I bet you say that to all the boys!” I happened to have a mouthful of
orange juice at the time which ended up all over my nice new shirt. It was just
perfectly timed and phrased.
No-one
could admire Paul’s improvisational skills more than me. He is the King Kong of
the show these days and I do think if he chucked it in, the show would die. But
Kenneth
with his voices, his different styles, his knowledge – just a genius.. and i
think of all he did it was Just A Minute that showed him off best...
From: Dave B
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 5:35 AM
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for
just-a-minute
Speaking
of Julian, you may recall his red box incident when he was barred from UK TV for
a while.
If
you don't know about this and want to know more then this forum link may
help
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=212813.
and Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAU7pATH5_M
On the subject of Kenneth, my dad had the radio on at tea time every
evening through the 1960s and 1970s, so I guess, as a small child, I heard every
JAM episode back then though all I can recall is Kenneth's voice, and maybe
Sheila, and certainly Nick, until I finally caught the bug and started recording
the shows when our first cassette recorder appeared in the house. Like I think
Dean has written, listening to Just A Minute back then was a case constantly
wanting Kenneth to win, cheering every time he went in to the lead (right),
feeling saddened if he let it slip, and whooping if he actually won, usually not
against the 3 other boys. It was almost like watching an England World Cup
football match.....wanting it to happen but knowing it never would...but having
a jolly good want. That's what it was like back then. Throughout the late 1990s
up to today I listened (when work allowed) for something different, and that was
a team of players having fun together and really passing the subject around,
almost like that non existent England football team should have been doing with
the ball.
I still have not had the courage to go back in time and listen to Kenneth
and that time. Additionally the Nick-bating was cruel, whereas in the last few
years every series has had a subject concerning the Chairman, because the
treatment would be pure fantasy and fun, rather than cruel.
It may be interesting to do what Matthew is doing. Start at the beginning
and work one's way up to 2011.
Dave
From: nylon net <nylon@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Wednesday, 13 July 2011 3:58 AM
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute
I do love our Kenny, but like most rich dishes, a little of him can often
go a long way ;-)
But at least he had variety in his personas. Unlike many one-dimensional "characters" in the media, he could change from fey to pompous to brutally aggressive to seductive to erudite to Cockney to Oxford and back to fey within 60 seconds.
Speaking of one-dimensional characters, I sometimes wonder why Julian Clary has stood the test of time with his single-entendre character, but I can only put it down to an indefinable bucketload of charisma and a great intelligence - and he always seems to be winking at you with a wry smile as if to say, "Yes, we both know it's silly, but just go along with it" and you do, because you're in on the joke.
Or not.
Mark
But at least he had variety in his personas. Unlike many one-dimensional "characters" in the media, he could change from fey to pompous to brutally aggressive to seductive to erudite to Cockney to Oxford and back to fey within 60 seconds.
Speaking of one-dimensional characters, I sometimes wonder why Julian Clary has stood the test of time with his single-entendre character, but I can only put it down to an indefinable bucketload of charisma and a great intelligence - and he always seems to be winking at you with a wry smile as if to say, "Yes, we both know it's silly, but just go along with it" and you do, because you're in on the joke.
Or not.
Mark
From: espen.kromke@...
Sent: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 12:48:38 +0200
To: just-a-minute@...
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minuteOn 12. juli 2011 01:31, mathew wrote:Kenneth Williams. Listening to him cracks me up every time. I really do like it when Kenneth goes off on one during the shows. Clement changed his style as the show went on however was very consistant throughout his tenure.
My dream 4 would feature Kenneth Williams, Paul Merton and Kenneth Williams as the first 3, not sure about the other.
Well, in the episodes where Williams is featured he already is featured twice as much as the others. :D
If Kenneth was still i JAM, I can say for certain I would not have listened to JAM today.
And if what Clement say in the jam documentary is true, JAM gained significantly more listeners after Williams died so at least I'm not the only one with that opinion - although I might be in the minority on this list. :)Send your photos by email in seconds...
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I love the second clip down, the operation with the laughing gas - an all-time fave of mine
hahahaha - and no, I'm not on the gas myself....
Many thanks for the link
--
Cheers
Don __o
\<,
.....O/ O
Cheers
Don __o
\<,
.....O/ O
From: Dave B <pondydave@...>
To: "just-a-minute@..." <just-a-minute@...>
Sent: Saturday, 23 July 2011, 9:25
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minuteThe only time I found Kenneth uncontorted was in the film Carry on Nurse from 1959 and he played a lovely, intelligent and warm hospital patient.I was looking around for a video link which showed this but was unsuccessful, though some clips and a movie trailer are available.This one (6th one down) is of interest for it shows Ken dubbed into German (early into the video)http://www.ovguide.com/movies_tv/carry_on_nurse.htmDave
From: Dean <dbedford@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Friday, 22 July 2011 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minuteon Kenneth, I can understand why not everyone would appreciate him. He is entirely unique. But – one of the great things about Espen’s stream is that you can listen to a Kenneth era show chosen at random and then a Paul era show also chosen at random and compare them – all the time.I know Nicholas has said the shows are funnier these days and someone else said the same here. I think the difference is these days is that when the panellists are speaking on the subject, they always try to have frequent laugh lines. Thirty and 40 years ago, they did sometimes take the subject seriously and try to be informative. Not just Kenneth and his historical subjects but the others too. Now they never do. Last year we had John Sergeant trying to take subjects seriously and he was ridiculed by all the others. But had he appeared in say 1974, he’d probably have been applauded for managing to continue for long periods without breaking the rules.But if I am choosing shows to listen to, I usually pick a Kenneth-era show. Because he is the one that regularly makes me laugh out loud. Because he provides the unexpected, the moments of drama. He can change so frequently. There was one show I was listening to yesterday where he was speaking and Kenneth was then challenged and there was a bit of argument about the challenge and Nicholas tried to move on by saying “oh well Kenneth you did hesitate there but we all thought you were lovely there...”and Kenneth came in with this gay voice saying “"oh I bet you say that to all the boys!” I happened to have a mouthful of orange juice at the time which ended up all over my nice new shirt. It was just perfectly timed and phrased.No-one could admire Paul’s improvisational skills more than me. He is the King Kong of the show these days and I do think if he chucked it in, the show would die. ButKenneth with his voices, his different styles, his knowledge – just a genius.. and i think of all he did it was Just A Minute that showed him off best...From: Dave BSent: Friday, July 15, 2011 5:35 AMSubject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minuteSpeaking of Julian, you may recall his red box incident when he was barred from UK TV for a while.If you don't know about this and want to know more then this forum link may helphttp://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=212813.and Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAU7pATH5_MOn the subject of Kenneth, my dad had the radio on at tea time every evening through the 1960s and 1970s, so I guess, as a small child, I heard every JAM episode back then though all I can recall is Kenneth's voice, and maybe Sheila, and certainly Nick, until I finally caught the bug and started recording the shows when our first cassette recorder appeared in the house. Like I think Dean has written, listening to Just A Minute back then was a case constantly wanting Kenneth to win, cheering every time he went in to the lead (right), feeling saddened if he let it slip, and whooping if he actually won, usually not against the 3 other boys. It was almost like watching an England World Cup football match.....wanting it to happen but knowing it never would...but having a jolly good want. That's what it was like back then. Throughout the late 1990s up to today I listened (when work allowed) for something different, and that was a team of players having fun together and really passing the subject around, almost like that non existent England football team should have been doing with the ball.I still have not had the courage to go back in time and listen to Kenneth and that time. Additionally the Nick-bating was cruel, whereas in the last few years every series has had a subject concerning the Chairman, because the treatment would be pure fantasy and fun, rather than cruel.It may be interesting to do what Matthew is doing. Start at the beginning and work one's way up to 2011.Dave
From: nylon net <nylon@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Wednesday, 13 July 2011 3:58 AM
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minuteI do love our Kenny, but like most rich dishes, a little of him can often go a long way ;-)
But at least he had variety in his personas. Unlike many one-dimensional "characters" in the media, he could change from fey to pompous to brutally aggressive to seductive to erudite to Cockney to Oxford and back to fey within 60 seconds.
Speaking of one-dimensional characters, I sometimes wonder why Julian Clary has stood the test of time with his single-entendre character, but I can only put it down to an indefinable bucketload of charisma and a great intelligence - and he always seems to be winking at you with a wry smile as if to say, "Yes, we both know it's silly, but just go along with it" and you do, because you're in on the joke.
Or not.
Mark-----Original Message-----From: espen.kromke@...
Sent: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 12:48:38 +0200
To: just-a-minute@...
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minuteOn 12. juli 2011 01:31, mathew wrote:Kenneth Williams. Listening to him cracks me up every time. I really do like it when Kenneth goes off on one during the shows. Clement changed his style as the show went on however was very consistant throughout his tenure.
My dream 4 would feature Kenneth Williams, Paul Merton and Kenneth Williams as the first 3, not sure about the other.
Well, in the episodes where Williams is featured he already is featured twice as much as the others. :D
If Kenneth was still i JAM, I can say for certain I would not have listened to JAM today.
And if what Clement say in the jam documentary is true, JAM gained significantly more listeners after Williams died so at least I'm not the only one with that opinion - although I might be in the minority on this list. :)Send your photos by email in seconds...
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Poor Wendy Richard - the first to receive no votes at all. Was she that bad? Or just up against tough competition in Peter Jones?
Oh well - I think this may be the toughest choice a yet. For so many reasons Linda Smith is a favourite with many who still mourn her far too early passing. But surely the King Kong of the past 20 years must make the final eight?
PAUL MERTON or LINDA SMITH? A tough choice indeed but a choice that must be made... VOTE NOW!!!!!
> To vote, please visit the following web page:
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> Yes, that what I was clumsily trying to get to. The fact the JAMWell, yes, that's true. But (at least these days) JaM also has basically a different panel every two weeks whilst ISIHAC has a much tighter core of panellists.
> can still be entertaining decades after broadcast is a testament
> to the skills of the panelists and the strategy of the game.
> ISIHAC needs dozens of game formats to keep it fresh while
> JAM's single format has never changed.
I think it's reasonable to say that JaM has a constant(ish) format and a frequently changing list of personnel whilst ISIHAC has a frequently changing format but a constant(ish) list of personnel. I don't necessarily think that JaM's way of staying fresh is better than ISIHAC's. Indeed you could say that the fact that they're both still around after all of these years shows that both ways of doing it are equally successful.
Cheers
kJ
Is than an inclusive or exclusive "or"?
I hope it's inclusive so that I can say "both".
Cheers
kJ
--- In just-a-minute@..., "deanbedford" <dbedford@...> wrote:
>
> Poor Wendy Richard - the first to receive no votes at all. Was she that bad? Or just up against tough competition in Peter Jones?
I thought that this comment was interesting:
Peter Jones was terrible at the game
What does everybody think is the purpose of the game? To get the most points or to get the most laughs? I think that technically Sue Perkins is one of the best players ever...but she does not always make me laugh the most.
Just a thought.
Love as always, David
--- In just-a-minute@..., Julian Bishop <julianxbishop@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Don
>
> Peter Jones was terrible at the game, and he couldn't blame lack of practice! However, his contribution was sparing but usually exceptional. It was him who made you spit out your food with laughter.
>
> What a boring game it would be if they all went into it to win rather than entertain. Peter's contributions entertained.
>
> As to Peter's 100% (so far), I'm not sure who would vote for Wendy Richard. Miserableness personified.
>
> This poll is going to get more difficult in later rounds. Much more difficult to choose between Peter Jones and Kenneth Williams for example
>
> Julian Bishop
> +44 7771 822106
> www.julianxbishop.wordpress.com
> @julianxbishop
> www.julianbishop.linkedin.com
>
>
> On 22 Jul 2011, at 16:24, "Don Judge" <don@...> wrote:
>
> > Blimey, no doubt left with that result (so far anyway, 100% for Peter)
> >
> > I must say this is the first one where I didn't vote instantly, in every other vote I went for my favourite without even thinking about it.
> > I was weighing up Peter's lack of skill at the game (come on you can't argue with that, Shirley) against his razor-sharp wit and brilliantly cutting one-liners and Wendy's performances.
> >
> > I must say I liked her quite a lot in JAM, just a shame she came up against the Genius of Peter in this vote, in my world anyway.
> >
> > --
> > Cheers
> >
> > Don __o
> > \<,
> > .....O/ O
> >
> >
> >
> > From: deanbedford <dbedford@...>
> > To: just-a-minute@...
> > Sent: Friday, 22 July 2011, 12:42
> > Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute
> >
> >
> > A close vote but Derek Nimmo is added to the final eight...
> >
> > So...
> >
> > tough choice this - the witty and tough soapie star who made her mark in the early 90s? Or the avuncular actor and playwright who often came out with the funniest remark.
> >
> > Peter Jones? Wendy Richard? A tough choice but one you must make, NOW!
> >
> > > To vote, please visit the following web page:
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/just-a-minute/surveys?id=3056419
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
As I have suggested before, it is a vehicle for comedians' skills so the point is, IMHO* obviously, to get the most laughs**.
It's listed as "BBC Radio Comedy" after all. Same with all similar shows on both TV and radio: ISIHAC, HIGNFY, Buzzcocks etc
That's why I find in-depth discussions on here about non-strict-adherence to the rules a little tiresome and missing the point completely.
OK, there, I've said it, I'll get back to my bridge now...
He he!
* for the newsgroup uninitiated that is "In My Humble Opinion"
** Despite her being a 'good' comedienne - I usually switch
off (metaphorically, obviously) when it's Sue's turn on JAM.
--
Cheers
Don __o
\<,
.....O/ O
Cheers
Don __o
\<,
.....O/ O
From: David <drling0@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Sunday, 24 July 2011, 9:12
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minuteI thought that this comment was interesting:
Peter Jones was terrible at the game
What does everybody think is the purpose of the game? To get the most points or to get the most laughs? I think that technically Sue Perkins is one of the best players ever...but she does not always make me laugh the most.
Just a thought.
Love as always, David
--- In just-a-minute@..., Julian Bishop <julianxbishop@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Don
>
> Peter Jones was terrible at the game, and he couldn't blame lack of practice! However, his contribution was sparing but usually exceptional. It was him who made you spit out your food with laughter.
>
> What a boring game it would be if they all went into it to win rather than entertain. Peter's contributions entertained.
>
> As to Peter's 100% (so far), I'm not sure who would vote for Wendy Richard. Miserableness personified.
>
> This poll is going to get more difficult in later rounds. Much more difficult to choose between Peter Jones and Kenneth Williams for example
>
> Julian Bishop
> +44 7771 822106
> www.julianxbishop.wordpress.com
> @julianxbishop
> www.julianbishop.linkedin.com
>
>
> On 22 Jul 2011, at 16:24, "Don Judge" <don@...> wrote:
>
> > Blimey, no doubt left with that result (so far anyway, 100% for Peter)
> >
> > I must say this is the first one where I didn't vote instantly, in every other vote I went for my favourite without even thinking about it.
> > I was weighing up Peter's lack of skill at the game (come on you can't argue with that, Shirley) against his razor-sharp wit and brilliantly cutting one-liners and Wendy's performances.
> >
> > I must say I liked her quite a lot in JAM, just a shame she came up against the Genius of Peter in this vote, in my world anyway.
> >
> > --
> > Cheers
> >
> > Don __o
> > \<,
> > .....O/ O
> >
> >
> >
> > From: deanbedford <dbedford@...>
> > To: just-a-minute@...
> > Sent: Friday, 22 July 2011, 12:42
> > Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute
> >
> >
> > A close vote but Derek Nimmo is added to the final eight...
> >
> > So...
> >
> > tough choice this - the witty and tough soapie star who made her mark in the early 90s? Or the avuncular actor and playwright who often came out with the funniest remark.
> >
> > Peter Jones? Wendy Richard? A tough choice but one you must make, NOW!
> >
> > > To vote, please visit the following web page:
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/just-a-minute/surveys?id=3056419
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
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Paul Merton is now in the final eight.
One more spot in the final eight - and you must choose between the current star, that clever and competitive comedienne Sue Perkins, and the show's self-described cult figure, Kenneth Williams.
VOTE NOW!
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Isn't it a radio debate, and if it's not a debate, what is it?
From: Don Judge <don@...>
To: "just-a-minute@..." <just-a-minute@...>
Sent: Sunday, 24 July 2011 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute
As I have suggested before, it is a vehicle for comedians' skills so the point is, IMHO* obviously, to get the most laughs**.
It's listed as "BBC Radio Comedy" after all. Same with all similar shows on both TV and radio: ISIHAC, HIGNFY, Buzzcocks etc
That's why I find in-depth discussions on here about non-strict-adherence to the rules a little tiresome and missing the point completely.
OK, there, I've said it, I'll get back to my bridge now...
He he!
* for the newsgroup uninitiated that is "In My Humble Opinion"
** Despite her being a
'good' comedienne - I usually switch
off (metaphorically, obviously) when it's Sue's turn on JAM.
--
Cheers
Don __o
\<,
.....O/ O
Cheers
Don __o
\<,
.....O/ O
From: David <drling0@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Sunday, 24 July 2011, 9:12
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minuteI thought that this comment was interesting:
Peter Jones was terrible at the game
What does everybody think is the purpose of the game? To get the most points or to get the most laughs? I think that technically Sue Perkins is one of the best players ever...but she does not always make me laugh the most.
Just a thought.
Love as always, David
--- In just-a-minute@..., Julian Bishop <julianxbishop@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Don
>
> Peter Jones was terrible at the game, and he couldn't blame lack of practice! However, his contribution was sparing but usually exceptional. It was him who made you spit out your food with laughter.
>
> What a boring game it would be if they all went into it to win rather than entertain. Peter's contributions entertained.
>
> As to Peter's 100% (so far), I'm not sure who would vote for Wendy Richard. Miserableness personified.
>
> This poll is going to get more difficult in later rounds. Much more difficult to choose between Peter Jones and Kenneth Williams for example
>
> Julian Bishop
> +44 7771 822106
> www.julianxbishop.wordpress.com
> @julianxbishop
> www.julianbishop.linkedin.com
>
>
> On 22 Jul 2011, at 16:24, "Don Judge" <don@...> wrote:
>
> > Blimey, no doubt left with that result (so far anyway, 100% for Peter)
> >
> > I must say this is the first one where I didn't vote instantly, in every other vote I went for my favourite without even thinking about it.
> > I was weighing up Peter's lack of skill at the game (come on you can't argue with that, Shirley) against his razor-sharp wit and brilliantly cutting one-liners and Wendy's performances.
> >
> > I must say I liked her quite a lot in JAM, just a shame she came up against the Genius of Peter in this vote, in my world anyway.
> >
> > --
> > Cheers
> >
> > Don __o
> > \<,
> > .....O/ O
> >
> >
> >
> > From: deanbedford <dbedford@...>
> > To: just-a-minute@...
> > Sent: Friday, 22 July 2011, 12:42
> > Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute
> >
> >
> > A close vote but Derek Nimmo is added to the final eight...
> >
> > So...
> >
> > tough choice this - the witty and tough soapie star who made her mark in the early 90s? Or the avuncular actor and playwright who often came out with the funniest remark.
> >
> > Peter Jones? Wendy Richard? A tough choice but one you must make, NOW!
> >
> > > To vote, please visit the following web page:
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/just-a-minute/surveys?id=3056419
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
huh ?
--
Cheers
Don __o
\<,
.....O/ O
Cheers
Don __o
\<,
.....O/ O
From: Dave B <pondydave@...>
To: "just-a-minute@..." <just-a-minute@...>
Sent: Sunday, 24 July 2011, 14:27
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minuteIsn't it a radio debate, and if it's not a debate, what is it?
From: Don Judge <don@...>
To: "just-a-minute@..." <just-a-minute@...>
Sent: Sunday, 24 July 2011 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minuteAs I have suggested before, it is a vehicle for comedians' skills so the point is, IMHO* obviously, to get the most laughs**.It's listed as "BBC Radio Comedy" after all. Same with all similar shows on both TV and radio: ISIHAC, HIGNFY, Buzzcocks etcThat's why I find in-depth discussions on here about non-strict-adherence to the rules a little tiresome and missing the point completely.OK, there, I've said it, I'll get back to my bridge now...He he!* for the newsgroup uninitiated that is "In My Humble Opinion"** Despite her being a 'good' comedienne - I usually switch off (metaphorically, obviously) when it's Sue's turn on JAM.--
Cheers
Don __o
\<,
.....O/ O
From: David <drling0@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Sunday, 24 July 2011, 9:12
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minuteI thought that this comment was interesting:
Peter Jones was terrible at the game
What does everybody think is the purpose of the game? To get the most points or to get the most laughs? I think that technically Sue Perkins is one of the best players ever...but she does not always make me laugh the most.
Just a thought.
Love as always, David
--- In just-a-minute@..., Julian Bishop <julianxbishop@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Don
>
> Peter Jones was terrible at the game, and he couldn't blame lack of practice! However, his contribution was sparing but usually exceptional. It was him who made you spit out your food with laughter.
>
> What a boring game it would be if they all went into it to win rather than entertain. Peter's contributions entertained.
>
> As to Peter's 100% (so far), I'm not sure who would vote for Wendy Richard. Miserableness personified.
>
> This poll is going to get more difficult in later rounds. Much more difficult to choose between Peter Jones and Kenneth Williams for example
>
> Julian Bishop
> +44 7771 822106
> www.julianxbishop.wordpress.com
> @julianxbishop
> www.julianbishop.linkedin.com
>
>
> On 22 Jul 2011, at 16:24, "Don Judge" <don@...> wrote:
>
> > Blimey, no doubt left with that result (so far anyway, 100% for Peter)
> >
> > I must say this is the first one where I didn't vote instantly, in every other vote I went for my favourite without even thinking about it.
> > I was weighing up Peter's lack of skill at the game (come on you can't argue with that, Shirley) against his razor-sharp wit and brilliantly cutting one-liners and Wendy's performances.
> >
> > I must say I liked her quite a lot in JAM, just a shame she came up against the Genius of Peter in this vote, in my world anyway.
> >
> > --
> > Cheers
> >
> > Don __o
> > \<,
> > .....O/ O
> >
> >
> >
> > From: deanbedford <dbedford@...>
> > To: just-a-minute@...
> > Sent: Friday, 22 July 2011, 12:42
> > Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute
> >
> >
> > A close vote but Derek Nimmo is added to the final eight...
> >
> > So...
> >
> > tough choice this - the witty and tough soapie star who made her mark in the early 90s? Or the avuncular actor and playwright who often came out with the funniest remark.
> >
> > Peter Jones? Wendy Richard? A tough choice but one you must make, NOW!
> >
> > > To vote, please visit the following web page:
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/just-a-minute/surveys?id=3056419
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
I was sort of quoting Tim Rice in one of those excellent episodes with Stephen Fry, Clement and Paul. "Were having a debate now".
They also had something about CCTV, repetition, no one would challenge as its on the card, and then Clement challenges, and a glorious paradox played up by Stephen in that pair of shows!
From: Don Judge <don@...>
To: "just-a-minute@..." <just-a-minute@...>
Sent: Sunday, 24 July 2011 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute
huh ?
--
Cheers
Don __o
\<,
.....O/ O
Cheers
Don __o
\<,
.....O/ O
From: Dave B <pondydave@...>
To: "just-a-minute@..." <just-a-minute@...>
Sent: Sunday, 24 July 2011, 14:27
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minuteIsn't it a radio debate, and if it's not a debate, what is it?
From: Don Judge <don@...>
To: "just-a-minute@..." <just-a-minute@...>
Sent: Sunday, 24 July 2011 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minuteAs I have suggested before, it is a vehicle for comedians' skills so the point is, IMHO* obviously, to get the most laughs**.It's listed as "BBC Radio Comedy" after all. Same with all similar shows on both TV and radio: ISIHAC, HIGNFY, Buzzcocks etcThat's why I find in-depth discussions on here about non-strict-adherence to the rules a little tiresome and missing the point completely.OK, there, I've said it, I'll get back to my bridge now...He he!* for the newsgroup uninitiated that is "In My Humble Opinion"** Despite her being a 'good' comedienne - I usually switch off (metaphorically, obviously) when it's Sue's turn on JAM.--
Cheers
Don __o
\<,
.....O/ O
From: David <drling0@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Sunday, 24 July 2011, 9:12
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minuteI thought that this comment was interesting:
Peter Jones was terrible at the game
What does everybody think is the purpose of the game? To get the most points or to get the most laughs? I think that technically Sue Perkins is one of the best players ever...but she does not always make me laugh the most.
Just a thought.
Love as always, David
--- In just-a-minute@..., Julian Bishop <julianxbishop@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Don
>
> Peter Jones was terrible at the game, and he couldn't blame lack of practice! However, his contribution was sparing but usually exceptional. It was him who made you spit out your food with laughter.
>
> What a boring game it would be if they all went into it to win rather than entertain. Peter's contributions entertained.
>
> As to Peter's 100% (so far), I'm not sure who would vote for Wendy Richard. Miserableness personified.
>
> This poll is going to get more difficult in later rounds. Much more difficult to choose between Peter Jones and Kenneth Williams for example
>
> Julian Bishop
> +44 7771 822106
> www.julianxbishop.wordpress.com
> @julianxbishop
> www.julianbishop.linkedin.com
>
>
> On 22 Jul 2011, at 16:24, "Don Judge" <don@...> wrote:
>
> > Blimey, no doubt left with that result (so far anyway, 100% for Peter)
> >
> > I must say this is the first one where I didn't vote instantly, in every other vote I went for my favourite without even thinking about it.
> > I was weighing up Peter's lack of skill at the game (come on you can't argue with that, Shirley) against his razor-sharp wit and brilliantly cutting one-liners and Wendy's performances.
> >
> > I must say I liked her quite a lot in JAM, just a shame she came up against the Genius of Peter in this vote, in my world anyway.
> >
> > --
> > Cheers
> >
> > Don __o
> > \<,
> > .....O/ O
> >
> >
> >
> > From: deanbedford <dbedford@...>
> > To: just-a-minute@...
> > Sent: Friday, 22 July 2011, 12:42
> > Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute
> >
> >
> > A close vote but Derek Nimmo is added to the final eight...
> >
> > So...
> >
> > tough choice this - the witty and tough soapie star who made her mark in the early 90s? Or the avuncular actor and playwright who often came out with the funniest remark.
> >
> > Peter Jones? Wendy Richard? A tough choice but one you must make, NOW!
> >
> > > To vote, please visit the following web page:
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/just-a-minute/surveys?id=3056419
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
As someone said previously, if forget who, sorry, Sue is great at playing the game but she doesnt bring many laughs. Kenneth, in my opinion, was both.
There was a good point raised previously regarding is it better to be great at playing the game whilst not providing as much hilarity or vice versa. Terry Wogan brought so many laughs to when he participated a couple of seasons ago but wasnt that great a player.
Personally I'd rather have the laughs.
--- In just-a-minute@..., just-a-minute@... wrote:
>
>
> Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
> just-a-minute group:
>
> one on one arm wrestle - ROUND EIGHT
>
> o Sue PERKINS
> o Kenneth WILLIAMS
>
>
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In the words of Nicholas:" It's the contribution that Counts" :)
( but if the person is Hopeless at the game it can get a bit hard to laugh after a while- JMO)
--- In just-a-minute@..., "mathew" <mat_bagnall@...> wrote:
>
> As someone said previously, if forget who, sorry, Sue is great at playing the game but she doesnt bring many laughs. Kenneth, in my opinion, was both.
>
> There was a good point raised previously regarding is it better to be great at playing the game whilst not providing as much hilarity or vice versa. Terry Wogan brought so many laughs to when he participated a couple of seasons ago but wasnt that great a player.
>
> Personally I'd rather have the laughs.
>
> --- In just-a-minute@..., just-a-minute@... wrote:
> >
> >
> > Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
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> > one on one arm wrestle - ROUND EIGHT
> >
> > o Sue PERKINS
> > o Kenneth WILLIAMS
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Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
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one on one arm wrestle - FIRST QUARTER-FINAL
o Gyles BRANDRETH
o Clement FREUD
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Kenneth Williams is added to the final eight. So the only one of the top eight seeds not to go through to the next round was Graham Norton. And he - eighth seed - was beaten by the ninth seed!
So to the quarter-finals. The first poll pits the two ex-MPs against each other. GYLES BRANDRETH or CLEMENT FREUD? A tough choice...
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one on one arm wrestle - SECOND QUARTER-FINAL
o Sheila HANCOCK
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Clement Freud is the first semi-finallist.
Next - two old friends in a fight to the end. The actress whose appaearances stretch from the second show in 1967 to this year? Or the kingpin of the first 20 years... JAM's most unique character?
Choose between SHEILA HANCOCK and KENNETH WILLIAMS!
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In my time zone (GMT-4) I get these latest polls first thing in the morning. An amusing and cheerful way to start the day. Thank you Dean. Sheila Hancock vs. Kenneth was awful tough though. I voted for KW because I probably never would have found the show but for his involvement and I think his contribution was huge. I admire SH too but it would be about the same show today with or without her appearances, and I don't think that's true about Kenneth.
It is running 50-50! Those who haven't voted: remember to weigh in on this one. Dean, what will you do if you get a tie??
From: deanbedford <dbedford@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 7:02 AM
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute
Clement Freud is the first semi-finallist.
Next - two old friends in a fight to the end. The actress whose appaearances stretch from the second show in 1967 to this year? Or the kingpin of the first 20 years... JAM's most unique character?
Choose between SHEILA HANCOCK and KENNETH WILLIAMS!
VOTE NOW!
Next - two old friends in a fight to the end. The actress whose appaearances stretch from the second show in 1967 to this year? Or the kingpin of the first 20 years... JAM's most unique character?
Choose between SHEILA HANCOCK and KENNETH WILLIAMS!
VOTE NOW!
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Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
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one on one poll - THIRD QUARTER FINAL
o Tony HAWKS
o Peter JONES
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A close race but Kenneth Williams is now in the final four.
So another tough choice - TONY HAWKS or PETER JONES?
VOTE NOW!
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thanks Lynn – I have deliberately not voted in any of the polls so I can
legitimately have a casting vote!
From: Lynn Vesley-Gross
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for
just-a-minute
In my time zone (GMT-4) I get these
latest polls first thing in the morning. An amusing and cheerful way to start
the day. Thank you Dean. Sheila Hancock vs. Kenneth was awful tough
though. I voted for KW because I probably never would have found the show
but for his involvement and I think his contribution was huge. I admire SH too
but it would be about the same show today with or without her appearances, and I
don't think that's true about Kenneth.
It is running 50-50! Those who
haven't voted: remember to weigh in on this one. Dean, what will you do if you
get a tie??
Ah, an excellent way to do it. I wondered whether you were voting. Well planned.
Lynn
From: Dean <dbedford@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute
thanks Lynn – I have deliberately not voted in any of the polls so I can
legitimately have a casting vote!
Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
just-a-minute group:
one on one arm wrestle - FOURTH QUARTER-FINAL
o Paul MERTON
o Derek NIMMO
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Unsurprisingly Peter Jones is in the top four.
So the last quarter-final - one of the giants of the gang of four - or the current master who the show is so reliant on.
PAUL MERTON? or DEREK NIMMO? The choice is yours. Decide who should be the last one in the top four.
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Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
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one on one poll - FIRST SEMI-FINAL
o Clement FREUD
o PAUL MERTON
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So... we are down to a final four. But we must cull two more...
They sat together for 20 years on Just A Minute. The surreal improviser or Just A Minute's most frequent panellist?
Tough choice... let's have two days to vote and choose between CLEMENT FREUD and PAUL MERTON.
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A reminder to vote on this... just one vote in it at the moment. I'll keep it open for another 12 hours or so.
> CLEMENT FREUD or PAUL MERTON????VOTE NOW!
>
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not so Dean, 19 votes when I last looked...
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From: deanbedford <dbedford@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Saturday, 30 July 2011, 21:33
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minuteA reminder to vote on this... just one vote in it at the moment. I'll keep it open for another 12 hours or so.
> CLEMENT FREUD or PAUL MERTON????
VOTE NOW!
>
> > To vote, please visit the following web page:
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but the vote is 10 to 9 – just one vote between them.
From: Don Judge
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for
just-a-minute
not so Dean, 19 votes when I last looked...
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Cheers
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From: deanbedford <dbedford@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Saturday, 30 July 2011, 21:33
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minuteA reminder to vote on this... just one vote in it at the moment. I'll keep it open for another 12 hours or so.
> CLEMENT FREUD or PAUL MERTON????
VOTE NOW!
>
> > To vote, please visit the following web page:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/just-a-minute/surveys?id=3057417
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one on one arm wrestle - SECOND SEMI-FINAL
o Peter JONES
o Kenneth WILLIAMS
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Clememt Freud beat Paul Merton for the first place in the final.
You now have two days to chose between PETER JONES and KENNETH WILLIAMS.
That lasst vote was really close - you have two days to choose between these two greats.
VOTE NOW!
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On 31. juli 2011 12:55, deanbedford wrote:Clememt Freud beat Paul Merton for the first place in the final.
That's... Unbelievable!
I know this is only a bit of fun, but I would have been much happier if the poll had finished after the quarter final, when we had narrowed the list down to four people, i.e. a panel. The problem I have now and I know it's very silly to have these thoughts, is that every choice leads me to feel disloyal to the person who doesn't get my vote. It's true that I could have abstained but then I would feel like a wimp! Life is hard, isn't it?
Having said that, I see we have had very little lobbying during the course of this poll, so (hoping that I'm not upsetting Dean or anybody else)..........
VOTE FOR KENNETH
To: just-a-minute@...
From: dbedford@...
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 10:55:16 +0000
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute
Having said that, I see we have had very little lobbying during the course of this poll, so (hoping that I'm not upsetting Dean or anybody else)..........
VOTE FOR KENNETH
To: just-a-minute@...
From: dbedford@...
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 10:55:16 +0000
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute
Clememt Freud beat Paul Merton for the first place in the final.
You now have two days to chose between PETER JONES and KENNETH WILLIAMS.
That lasst vote was really close - you have two days to choose between these two greats.
VOTE NOW!
You now have two days to chose between PETER JONES and KENNETH WILLIAMS.
That lasst vote was really close - you have two days to choose between these two greats.
VOTE NOW!
> To vote, please visit the following web page:
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Yes, interesting result.
It would also be interesting to know the ages of the voters.
For myself, in recent times, I was happiest when the panel included both Clement and Paul.
To: just-a-minute@...
From: espen.kromke@...
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 13:13:15 +0200
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute
It would also be interesting to know the ages of the voters.
For myself, in recent times, I was happiest when the panel included both Clement and Paul.
To: just-a-minute@...
From: espen.kromke@...
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 13:13:15 +0200
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute
On 31. juli 2011 12:55, deanbedford wrote:Clememt Freud beat Paul Merton for the first place in the final.
That's... Unbelievable!
45, but then I voted for Paul
Whatever happens now, we have a posthumous winner
Julian Bishop
+44 7771 822106
@julianxbishop
On 31 Jul 2011, at 12:55, "Steve Kenrick" <steve.kenrick@...> wrote:
Yes, interesting result.
It would also be interesting to know the ages of the voters.
For myself, in recent times, I was happiest when the panel included both Clement and Paul.
To: just-a-minute@...
From: espen.kromke@...
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 13:13:15 +0200
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute
On 31. juli 2011 12:55, deanbedford wrote:Clememt Freud beat Paul Merton for the first place in the final.
That's... Unbelievable!
42, but I voted for Paul too.
On 31. juli 2011 13:52, Steve Kenrick wrote:Yes, interesting result.
It would also be interesting to know the ages of the voters.
For myself, in recent times, I was happiest when the panel included both Clement and Paul.
To: just-a-minute@...
From: espen.kromke@...
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 13:13:15 +0200
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute
On 31. juli 2011 12:55, deanbedford wrote:Clememt Freud beat Paul Merton for the first place in the final.
That's... Unbelievable!
--- In just-a-minute@..., Espen Krømke <espen.kromke@...> wrote:
>Not really. People associate JAM with Clement Freud more, and he is recently deceased, which is another reason people will vote for him.
> 42, but I voted for Paul too.
>
>
> On 31. juli 2011 13:52, Steve Kenrick wrote:
> >
> > Yes, interesting result.
> >
> > It would also be interesting to know the ages of the voters.
> >
> > For myself, in recent times, I was happiest when the panel included
> > both Clement and Paul.
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To: just-a-minute@...
> > From: espen.kromke@...
> > Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 13:13:15 +0200
> > Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute
> >
> > On 31. juli 2011 12:55, deanbedford wrote:
> >
> > Clememt Freud beat Paul Merton for the first place in the final.
> >
> >
> >
> > That's... Unbelievable!
> >
> >
> >
>
51, I voted for Clement; very difficult decision though
From: Paul <plwimsett@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 8:53 AM
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute
--- In just-a-minute@..., Espen Krømke <espen.kromke@...> wrote:
>
> 42, but I voted for Paul too.
>
>
> On 31. juli 2011 13:52, Steve Kenrick wrote:
> >
> > Yes, interesting result.
> >
> > It would also be interesting to know the ages of the voters.
> >
> > For myself, in recent times, I was happiest when the panel included
> > both Clement and Paul.
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > To: just-a-minute@...
> > From: espen.kromke@...
> > Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 13:13:15 +0200
> > Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute
> >
> > On 31. juli 2011 12:55, deanbedford wrote:
> >
> > Clememt Freud beat Paul Merton for the first place in the final.
> >
> >
> >
> > That's... Unbelievable!
> >
> >
> >
>
Not really. People associate JAM with Clement Freud more, and he is recently deceased, which is another reason people will vote for him.
Not really. People associate JAM with Clement Freud more, and he is recently deceased, which is another reason people will vote for him.
Vote for him because he is deceased? I don't understand that either. Plus, Paul are no nobody when it comes to JAM either... he's an as essential part of current day JAM as Williams was back in the days (in my humble opinion of course)!
It's not that I criticize those who voted for Clement, of course not, there's no "right" or "wrong" here. It's just... Clement? That grumpy, high horse elitist old man? I just don't understand it. Not against Merton!
I'm 37. I must admit that I found Clement to slightly drag
things out over the last ten years on the show. Maybe it was his slow and
drawling delivery but to my mind it just seemed to get slower and slower in the
2000's.
Just my 2p worth
Paul
----- Original Message -----From: Steve KenrickSent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 12:52 PMSubject: RE: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minuteYes, interesting result.
It would also be interesting to know the ages of the voters.
For myself, in recent times, I was happiest when the panel included both Clement and Paul.
To: just-a-minute@...
From: espen.kromke@...
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 13:13:15 +0200
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute
On 31. juli 2011 12:55, deanbedford wrote:Clememt Freud beat Paul Merton for the first place in the final.
That's... Unbelievable!
maybe we should have been debating each poll as we went along? It would
have made things more interesting.
It is as Steve said all just a bit of fun. I do think it will be an
interesting result if neither of the show’s biggest stars are in the final
(currently Peter Jones is leading Kenneth Williams). Perhaps both Paul and
Kenneth are both big turn-ons and – for some anyway, turn-offs.
But would JAM still be going if Kenneth hadn’t joined. Could Clement,
Derek, Peter and Sheila or Andree Melly have carried the show through the 70s
and 80s?
And if Wendy Richard or say Tim Rice had ended up as the fourth regular in
the 90s... would the show still be going?
Anyway... all opinions are welcome!
Perhaps I should say though, for those not interested in the polls – and
only 20 or so have been voting – that I think we will have a break for a
little while after the final poll in this series. So if you dread every email on
this, there’s just the current one and then one more!
From: Paul
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 2:05 AM
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for
just-a-minute
I'm 37. I must admit that I found Clement to slightly drag
things out over the last ten years on the show. Maybe it was his slow and
drawling delivery but to my mind it just seemed to get slower and slower in the
2000's.
Just my 2p worth
Paul
----- Original Message -----From: Steve KenrickSent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 12:52 PMSubject: RE: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minuteYes, interesting result.
It would also be interesting to know the ages of the voters.
For myself, in recent times, I was happiest when the panel included both Clement and Paul.
To: just-a-minute@...
From: espen.kromke@...
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 13:13:15 +0200
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: New poll for just-a-minute
On 31. juli 2011 12:55, deanbedford wrote:Clememt Freud beat Paul Merton for the first place in the final.
That's... Unbelievable!
33, and I voted for Clement. :)
I am 49 and I have not voted.
I just wanted to say that with personal preference, liking someone better sometimes makes you feel a little disloyal to the "loser".
For example, I can see that Paul Merton is a good player but he is not always my preference. For me Kenneth Williams was nearly always entertaining. Now if I think about that long enough I could easily start to think Paul Merton is rubbish when compared to the "classics" like Kenneth Williams. When in truth I think Paul Merton is quite funny.
I think this may count as my spoiled vote.
Love as always
--- In just-a-minute@..., "George" <george@...> wrote:
>
> 33, and I voted for Clement. :)
>
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