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Topic: Known To Be Missing or Incomplete

Message 1 / 8
charles_rookeMar 13, 2012
 

 
Mat

I wouldn't claim that it's definitive, but my "missing etc" list is as follows. I'd be delighted to be proved wrong on the "missing/incomplete" and very pleased to receive upgrades for any of the others.

Charlie

MISSING
1968.01.05 s01e03 #003
1968.01.12 s01e04 #004
1968.01.19 s01e05 #005
1968.01.26 s01e06 #006
1968.02.16 s01e09 #009
1968.03.01 s01e11 #011
1968.03.08 s01e12 #012
1968.12.31 s03e01 #023
1969.03.18 s03e12 #034
1969.04.02 s03e14 #036
1974.12.23 s09e15 #182

INCOMPLETE
1984.07.14 s18e05 #342 [Start missing] - The Marie Celeste

CLIPPED
1971.02.09 s05e23 #086 [No credits] - Unblocking The Kitchen Sink
1971.10.26 s06e03 #092 [No credits] - Men
1971.12.07 s06e09 #098 [No credits] - Flamboyancy
1982.02.27 s16e06 #307 [No intro music or outro] - Evasiveness
1983.04.18 s17e06 #323 [No intro music] - The Most Lovable Points Of A Rhinoceros
1985.03.06 s18e15 #352 [No intro music] - A Turn
1987.04.04 s20e01 #369 [No intro] - Customs
1987.04.18 s20e03 #371 [No intro] - Will Power
1987.06.13 s20e10 #378 [No intro] - Getting Animated
1989.05.30 s22e10 #398 [pq] [No outro] - Poker
1991.02.23 s24e08 #414 [pq] [Intro clipped] - Biscuits In Bed
2000.01.24 s36e06 #522 [Intro clipped] - Miracles
2000.01.31 s36e07 #523 [Intro clipped] - Hangovers
2000.02.07 s36e08 #524 [Intro clipped] - Spice
2002.07.29 s41e05 #571 [No intro music] - The Man On The Clapham Omnibus
2002.08.05 s41e06 #572 [No intro music] - How To Make A Cornish Pastie
2002.08.12 s41e07 #573 [No intro music] - The Saxons
2006.07.31 s49e05 #655 [No closing music] - The Dome [BBC R4]

PARTICULARLY POOR QUALITY
1970.11.17 s05e11 #074 [pq] - Wine
1970.11.24 s05e12 #075 [pq] - What Excites Me
1971.02.02 s05e22 #085 [pq] - Demonstrating
1978.05.16 s12e13 #258 [pq] - Making Up
1986.01.04 s19e03 #360 [pq] - Doppelganger
1986.02.08 s19e08 #365 [pq] - Bubble Baths
1988.05.12 s21e02 #382 [pq] - Going Bananas
1989.05.30 s22e10 #398 [pq] [No outro] - Poker
1991.02.23 s24e08 #414 [pq] [Intro clipped] - Biscuits In Bed

--- In just-a-minute@..., "mathew" <mat_bagnall@...> wrote:

> Is there an up-to-date list which documents which episodes are lost and which are incomplete. I know that a few of the very early episodes are missing presumed lost. Hopefully someday they will be rediscovered.
>
>

 
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Topic: Re: Known To Be Missing or Incomplete

Message 2 / 8
Espen KrømkeMar 13, 2012
 

 
Excellent summary, Charles. It's so much easier to look in the archive here when I got more than just the episode # to go by.

Guys, I know I promised to post those two complete good sounding shows and I've not forgotten about that. I'll get to it. But before I do that I'll run through this list too and see if I can be of further assistance.

On 13. mars 2012 10:58, charles_rooke wrote:

 

Mat

I wouldn't claim that it's definitive, but my "missing etc" list is as follows. I'd be delighted to be proved wrong on the "missing/incomplete" and very pleased to receive upgrades for any of the others.

Charlie

MISSING
1968.01.05 s01e03 #003
1968.01.12 s01e04 #004
1968.01.19 s01e05 #005
1968.01.26 s01e06 #006
1968.02.16 s01e09 #009
1968.03.01 s01e11 #011
1968.03.08 s01e12 #012
1968.12.31 s03e01 #023
1969.03.18 s03e12 #034
1969.04.02 s03e14 #036
1974.12.23 s09e15 #182

INCOMPLETE
1984.07.14 s18e05 #342 [Start missing] - The Marie Celeste

CLIPPED
1971.02.09 s05e23 #086 [No credits] - Unblocking The Kitchen Sink
1971.10.26 s06e03 #092 [No credits] - Men
1971.12.07 s06e09 #098 [No credits] - Flamboyancy
1982.02.27 s16e06 #307 [No intro music or outro] - Evasiveness
1983.04.18 s17e06 #323 [No intro music] - The Most Lovable Points Of A Rhinoceros
1985.03.06 s18e15 #352 [No intro music] - A Turn
1987.04.04 s20e01 #369 [No intro] - Customs
1987.04.18 s20e03 #371 [No intro] - Will Power
1987.06.13 s20e10 #378 [No intro] - Getting Animated
1989.05.30 s22e10 #398 [pq] [No outro] - Poker
1991.02.23 s24e08 #414 [pq] [Intro clipped] - Biscuits In Bed
2000.01.24 s36e06 #522 [Intro clipped] - Miracles
2000.01.31 s36e07 #523 [Intro clipped] - Hangovers
2000.02.07 s36e08 #524 [Intro clipped] - Spice
2002.07.29 s41e05 #571 [No intro music] - The Man On The Clapham Omnibus
2002.08.05 s41e06 #572 [No intro music] - How To Make A Cornish Pastie
2002.08.12 s41e07 #573 [No intro music] - The Saxons
2006.07.31 s49e05 #655 [No closing music] - The Dome [BBC R4]

PARTICULARLY POOR QUALITY
1970.11.17 s05e11 #074 [pq] - Wine
1970.11.24 s05e12 #075 [pq] - What Excites Me
1971.02.02 s05e22 #085 [pq] - Demonstrating
1978.05.16 s12e13 #258 [pq] - Making Up
1986.01.04 s19e03 #360 [pq] - Doppelganger
1986.02.08 s19e08 #365 [pq] - Bubble Baths
1988.05.12 s21e02 #382 [pq] - Going Bananas
1989.05.30 s22e10 #398 [pq] [No outro] - Poker
1991.02.23 s24e08 #414 [pq] [Intro clipped] - Biscuits In Bed

--- In just-a-minute@..., "mathew" <mat_bagnall@...> wrote:

> Is there an up-to-date list which documents which episodes are lost and which are incomplete. I know that a few of the very early episodes are missing presumed lost. Hopefully someday they will be rediscovered.
>
>

 
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Topic: Re: Known To Be Missing or Incomplete

Message 3 / 8
nylon netMar 13, 2012
 

 

I can't help with any of those.  Hopefully the ABC might give us some upgrades this year.

-----Original Message-----
From: charles_rooke@...
Sent: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:58:41 -0000
To: just-a-minute@...
Subject: [just-a-minute] Known To Be Missing or Incomplete

 

Mat

I wouldn't claim that it's definitive, but my "missing etc" list is as follows. I'd be delighted to be proved wrong on the "missing/incomplete" and very pleased to receive upgrades for any of the others.

Charlie

MISSING
1968.01.05 s01e03 #003
1968.01.12 s01e04 #004
1968.01.19 s01e05 #005
1968.01.26 s01e06 #006
1968.02.16 s01e09 #009
1968.03.01 s01e11 #011
1968.03.08 s01e12 #012
1968.12.31 s03e01 #023
1969.03.18 s03e12 #034
1969.04.02 s03e14 #036
1974.12.23 s09e15 #182

INCOMPLETE
1984.07.14 s18e05 #342 [Start missing] - The Marie Celeste

CLIPPED
1971.02.09 s05e23 #086 [No credits] - Unblocking The Kitchen Sink
1971.10.26 s06e03 #092 [No credits] - Men
1971.12.07 s06e09 #098 [No credits] - Flamboyancy
1982.02.27 s16e06 #307 [No intro music or outro] - Evasiveness
1983.04.18 s17e06 #323 [No intro music] - The Most Lovable Points Of A Rhinoceros
1985.03.06 s18e15 #352 [No intro music] - A Turn
1987.04.04 s20e01 #369 [No intro] - Customs
1987.04.18 s20e03 #371 [No intro] - Will Power
1987.06.13 s20e10 #378 [No intro] - Getting Animated
1989.05.30 s22e10 #398 [pq] [No outro] - Poker
1991.02.23 s24e08 #414 [pq] [Intro clipped] - Biscuits In Bed
2000.01.24 s36e06 #522 [Intro clipped] - Miracles
2000.01.31 s36e07 #523 [Intro clipped] - Hangovers
2000.02.07 s36e08 #524 [Intro clipped] - Spice
2002.07.29 s41e05 #571 [No intro music] - The Man On The Clapham Omnibus
2002.08.05 s41e06 #572 [No intro music] - How To Make A Cornish Pastie
2002.08.12 s41e07 #573 [No intro music] - The Saxons
2006.07.31 s49e05 #655 [No closing music] - The Dome [BBC R4]

PARTICULARLY POOR QUALITY
1970.11.17 s05e11 #074 [pq] - Wine
1970.11.24 s05e12 #075 [pq] - What Excites Me
1971.02.02 s05e22 #085 [pq] - Demonstrating
1978.05.16 s12e13 #258 [pq] - Making Up
1986.01.04 s19e03 #360 [pq] - Doppelganger
1986.02.08 s19e08 #365 [pq] - Bubble Baths
1988.05.12 s21e02 #382 [pq] - Going Bananas
1989.05.30 s22e10 #398 [pq] [No outro] - Poker
1991.02.23 s24e08 #414 [pq] [Intro clipped] - Biscuits In Bed

--- In just-a-minute@..., "mathew" <mat_bagnall@...> wrote:

> Is there an up-to-date list which documents which episodes are lost and which are incomplete. I know that a few of the very early episodes are missing presumed lost. Hopefully someday they will be rediscovered.
>
>

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Topic: Re: Known To Be Missing or Incomplete

Message 4 / 8
Espen KrømkeMar 13, 2012
 

 
Ok I've gone through the list. Here's my comments on the versions where I believe I may have a better version:

CLIPPED
1971.02.09 s05e23 #086 [No credits] - Unblocking The Kitchen Sink

Nic: "from all of us, goodbye" is the last words before Minute Waltz begins. Guess that means complete show?

1971.10.26 s06e03 #092 [No credits] - Men

Same as above: Nic ends with "from all of us, goodbye" is the last words before Minute Waltz begins.

1971.12.07 s06e09 #098 [No credits] - Flamboyancy

Same as above again. Do you mean that the music fades out fast? Cause it does. But every spoken word seems to be included.

1989.05.30 s22e10 #398 [pq] [No outro] - Poker

Good sound, complete show

2002.07.29 s41e05 #571 [No intro music] - The Man On The Clapham Omnibus

Nicolas says "welcome to just a minute" so it is a complete show, but the music is very low in the background

2002.08.05 s41e06 #572 [No intro music] - How To Make A Cornish Pastie

I got a complete version with intro (including Radio 4 intro), but the music intro is very short.


Regarding your "particularly bad" recordings I commented on them all, just to put things into perspective:

PARTICULARLY POOR QUALITY
1970.11.17 s05e11 #074 [pq] - Wine

Quite bad

1970.11.24 s05e12 #075 [pq] - What Excites Me

Very bad here too

1971.02.02 s05e22 #085 [pq] - Demonstrating

Very bad here too

1978.05.16 s12e13 #258 [pq] - Making Up

A constant, light, humming tone in the background, but not *that* bad?

1986.01.04 s19e03 #360 [pq] - Doppelganger

Very bad here too

1986.02.08 s19e08 #365 [pq] - Bubble Baths

Very bad here too

1988.05.12 s21e02 #382 [pq] - Going Bananas

There's an annoying humming in the background, but the speech is clear.

1989.05.30 s22e10 #398 [pq] [No outro] - Poker

Good sound, complete show

 
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Topic: Re: Known To Be Missing or Incomplete

Message 5 / 8
Chris WilliamsMar 13, 2012
 

 

 
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Topic: Re: Known To Be Missing or Incomplete

Message 6 / 8
mathewMar 13, 2012
 

 
Thanks for the list Charlie. Great to know what ones are incomplete, missing, or clipped and in what quality.

Have noticed that #259 Series 12 Episode 14 is the one episode out there that i dont have and isnt in the download area. Would anyone be willing to post it here?

--- In just-a-minute@..., "charles_rooke" <charles_rooke@...> wrote:
>
> Mat
>
> I wouldn't claim that it's definitive, but my "missing etc" list is as follows. I'd be delighted to be proved wrong on the "missing/incomplete" and very pleased to receive upgrades for any of the others.
>
> Charlie
>
> MISSING
> 1968.01.05 s01e03 #003
> 1968.01.12 s01e04 #004
> 1968.01.19 s01e05 #005
> 1968.01.26 s01e06 #006
> 1968.02.16 s01e09 #009
> 1968.03.01 s01e11 #011
> 1968.03.08 s01e12 #012
> 1968.12.31 s03e01 #023
> 1969.03.18 s03e12 #034
> 1969.04.02 s03e14 #036
> 1974.12.23 s09e15 #182
>
> INCOMPLETE
> 1984.07.14 s18e05 #342 [Start missing] - The Marie Celeste
>
> CLIPPED
> 1971.02.09 s05e23 #086 [No credits] - Unblocking The Kitchen Sink
> 1971.10.26 s06e03 #092 [No credits] - Men
> 1971.12.07 s06e09 #098 [No credits] - Flamboyancy
> 1982.02.27 s16e06 #307 [No intro music or outro] - Evasiveness
> 1983.04.18 s17e06 #323 [No intro music] - The Most Lovable Points Of A Rhinoceros
> 1985.03.06 s18e15 #352 [No intro music] - A Turn
> 1987.04.04 s20e01 #369 [No intro] - Customs
> 1987.04.18 s20e03 #371 [No intro] - Will Power
> 1987.06.13 s20e10 #378 [No intro] - Getting Animated
> 1989.05.30 s22e10 #398 [pq] [No outro] - Poker
> 1991.02.23 s24e08 #414 [pq] [Intro clipped] - Biscuits In Bed
> 2000.01.24 s36e06 #522 [Intro clipped] - Miracles
> 2000.01.31 s36e07 #523 [Intro clipped] - Hangovers
> 2000.02.07 s36e08 #524 [Intro clipped] - Spice
> 2002.07.29 s41e05 #571 [No intro music] - The Man On The Clapham Omnibus
> 2002.08.05 s41e06 #572 [No intro music] - How To Make A Cornish Pastie
> 2002.08.12 s41e07 #573 [No intro music] - The Saxons
> 2006.07.31 s49e05 #655 [No closing music] - The Dome [BBC R4]
>
> PARTICULARLY POOR QUALITY
> 1970.11.17 s05e11 #074 [pq] - Wine
> 1970.11.24 s05e12 #075 [pq] - What Excites Me
> 1971.02.02 s05e22 #085 [pq] - Demonstrating
> 1978.05.16 s12e13 #258 [pq] - Making Up
> 1986.01.04 s19e03 #360 [pq] - Doppelganger
> 1986.02.08 s19e08 #365 [pq] - Bubble Baths
> 1988.05.12 s21e02 #382 [pq] - Going Bananas
> 1989.05.30 s22e10 #398 [pq] [No outro] - Poker
> 1991.02.23 s24e08 #414 [pq] [Intro clipped] - Biscuits In Bed
>
>
>
> --- In just-a-minute@..., "mathew" <mat_bagnall@> wrote:
>
> > Is there an up-to-date list which documents which episodes are lost and which are incomplete. I know that a few of the very early episodes are missing presumed lost. Hopefully someday they will be rediscovered.
> >
> >
>

 
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Topic: Re: Known To Be Missing or Incomplete

Message 7 / 8
mathewMar 13, 2012
 

 
Sorry for the double post.

With the JAM special on bbc radio 2 this Saturday (17th March 9am - 12pm) hopefully the beeb will throw in a bonus for the Jammers be it an upgrade, or one of the missing episodes. Am really looking forward to listening to the show.
And then we get the tv series in less than 2 weeks. Yeayyyy!!

--- In just-a-minute@..., "mathew" <mat_bagnall@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the list Charlie. Great to know what ones are incomplete, missing, or clipped and in what quality.
>
> Have noticed that #259 Series 12 Episode 14 is the one episode out there that i dont have and isnt in the download area. Would anyone be willing to post it here?
>
>
>
> --- In just-a-minute@..., "charles_rooke" <charles_rooke@> wrote:
> >
> > Mat
> >
> > I wouldn't claim that it's definitive, but my "missing etc" list is as follows. I'd be delighted to be proved wrong on the "missing/incomplete" and very pleased to receive upgrades for any of the others.
> >
> > Charlie
> >
> > MISSING
> > 1968.01.05 s01e03 #003
> > 1968.01.12 s01e04 #004
> > 1968.01.19 s01e05 #005
> > 1968.01.26 s01e06 #006
> > 1968.02.16 s01e09 #009
> > 1968.03.01 s01e11 #011
> > 1968.03.08 s01e12 #012
> > 1968.12.31 s03e01 #023
> > 1969.03.18 s03e12 #034
> > 1969.04.02 s03e14 #036
> > 1974.12.23 s09e15 #182
> >
> > INCOMPLETE
> > 1984.07.14 s18e05 #342 [Start missing] - The Marie Celeste
> >
> > CLIPPED
> > 1971.02.09 s05e23 #086 [No credits] - Unblocking The Kitchen Sink
> > 1971.10.26 s06e03 #092 [No credits] - Men
> > 1971.12.07 s06e09 #098 [No credits] - Flamboyancy
> > 1982.02.27 s16e06 #307 [No intro music or outro] - Evasiveness
> > 1983.04.18 s17e06 #323 [No intro music] - The Most Lovable Points Of A Rhinoceros
> > 1985.03.06 s18e15 #352 [No intro music] - A Turn
> > 1987.04.04 s20e01 #369 [No intro] - Customs
> > 1987.04.18 s20e03 #371 [No intro] - Will Power
> > 1987.06.13 s20e10 #378 [No intro] - Getting Animated
> > 1989.05.30 s22e10 #398 [pq] [No outro] - Poker
> > 1991.02.23 s24e08 #414 [pq] [Intro clipped] - Biscuits In Bed
> > 2000.01.24 s36e06 #522 [Intro clipped] - Miracles
> > 2000.01.31 s36e07 #523 [Intro clipped] - Hangovers
> > 2000.02.07 s36e08 #524 [Intro clipped] - Spice
> > 2002.07.29 s41e05 #571 [No intro music] - The Man On The Clapham Omnibus
> > 2002.08.05 s41e06 #572 [No intro music] - How To Make A Cornish Pastie
> > 2002.08.12 s41e07 #573 [No intro music] - The Saxons
> > 2006.07.31 s49e05 #655 [No closing music] - The Dome [BBC R4]
> >
> > PARTICULARLY POOR QUALITY
> > 1970.11.17 s05e11 #074 [pq] - Wine
> > 1970.11.24 s05e12 #075 [pq] - What Excites Me
> > 1971.02.02 s05e22 #085 [pq] - Demonstrating
> > 1978.05.16 s12e13 #258 [pq] - Making Up
> > 1986.01.04 s19e03 #360 [pq] - Doppelganger
> > 1986.02.08 s19e08 #365 [pq] - Bubble Baths
> > 1988.05.12 s21e02 #382 [pq] - Going Bananas
> > 1989.05.30 s22e10 #398 [pq] [No outro] - Poker
> > 1991.02.23 s24e08 #414 [pq] [Intro clipped] - Biscuits In Bed
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In just-a-minute@..., "mathew" <mat_bagnall@> wrote:
> >
> > > Is there an up-to-date list which documents which episodes are lost and which are incomplete. I know that a few of the very early episodes are missing presumed lost. Hopefully someday they will be rediscovered.
> > >
> > >
> >
>

 
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Topic: Re: Known To Be Missing or Incomplete

Message 8 / 8
charles_rookeMar 15, 2012
 

 
Espen - many thanks for your comments. If you are able, I would appreciate copies of your versions of:

1989.05.30 s22e10 #398 - Poker
Good sound, complete show

2002.07.29 s41e05 #571 - The Man On The Clapham Omnibus
Nicolas says "welcome to just a minute" so it is a complete show,

2002.08.05 s41e06 #572 - How To Make A Cornish Pastie
I got a complete version with intro (including Radio 4 intro), but the music intro is very short.

Cheers
Charlie