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Clitheroe KidApr 30, 2012
 
 
 
Under UK law, broadcast copyright exists in a radio show under either the Copyright Act 1956 or the Act of 1988, depending on whether the broadcast in question was first aired before or after 1988.
 
In the 1956 Act, there is only a prohibition on commercial use of a recording of a show, and only for 50 years. The Act does NOT prohibit non-commercial use.
 
There is a campaign under way to try to get the file sharing sites to recognise that file shaing of a BBC show that was first broadcast before 1963 is not unlawdful, and that even if the episode aired after 1963 sharing it is still NOT banned by the Act unless money is paid - something which never happens in the context of file-sharing.
 
You need to understand that, whatever the law might be in Australia, this is a BBC show, and the BBC is limited by the laws of England, not those of Australia. It can, under UK law, prevent commercial use of its shows, but not their non-commercial use.
 
Beware of believing all the stuff on the internet about copyright law. Most of it turns out to relate to American copyright law. Very little of it applies in the UK.
 

 

To: just-a-minute@...
From: dbedford@...
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 20:03:35 +1200
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Missing JAMs



badger, I think Dave was referring to his emails to this group, not to the BBC.
 
But even if he has written to the BBC, we don’t name-call here. The bulk of this email conveys very useful information, it didn’t need the personal stuff.
 
Anyone who doesn’t follow my one rule of “be nice”, will be out. I hope I don’t have to show I mean it.
 
cheers, Dean
 
 
 
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Missing JAMs
 
 
Are you serious?

You wrote to the copyright holder asking for their opinion of file sharing and blatant breach of the relevant laws, at best you are naive and worst stupid.

What do you think their answer might be? Honestly!

"Oh!  that's OK please feel free to distribute our copyrighted programme content around the world breaking various local and international laws and those of the file sharing sites who's Terms and conditions clearly state that you are not allowed to host content for which you do not hold copyright for."

In case you think that Australian law excludes Just A Minute I suggest you read your local law on this matter: http://www.ag.gov.au/Copyright/Pages/default.aspx  I'm sure you will be aware of the current AFL/Optus copyright case, so copyright theft is high profile and anyone that is indulging such acts will want to "keep quiet about it".

The issue you might counter with is to suggest we are "time shifting" the broadcasts but this is not the case as we are sharing beyond the national/regional limits of the original broadcast and "media shifting" where the copyright material is transposed to MP3 format for onward transmission. Both points specifically forbidden under the T&Cs of the various sources from which "copies" are taken.

The BBC as the copyright holder will be tied to their contractual agreements with the programme performers who would (probably) otherwise receive payment from future sales of the programme content; which a court case would argue that we are depriving them of.

If this Yahoo Group disappears overnight - it's a fair bet that it will be as a result of a "cease and desist" notice to the cappers and this Yahoo Group owner, who probably do not wish the floodlight of litigation to focus on them because a fool waved a flag at the BBC.

http://info.yahoo.com/copyright/us/details.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_infringement

Read the two links above to understand exactly what you have put at risk not only to the group but the kind people that infringe copyright for your pleasure.


I take it back; you are not a naive fool you are, with respect, a moron.
> "I wonder if my recent email asking what the BBC thought of our file sharing might be connected with removals from Mediafire. I trust not. But you never know! "





 
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