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Topic: OT - Unbelievable Truth

Message 1 / 17
mathewMay 4, 2012
 
 
Is anyone able to provide the following episodes of The Unbelievable Truth:

Series 3 Episodes 5 & 6
Series 5 Episodes 1 & 2.

They are the only ones i dont have and they are not in TUT folder.
 
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Topic: Re: OT - Unbelievable Truth

Message 2 / 17
badger danceMay 4, 2012
 
 
> Is anyone able to provide the following episodes of The Unbelievable Truth:

http://kat.ph/the-unbelievable-truth-s01-to-06-audio-comedy-mp3-slimoo-t4581021.html


 
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Topic: Re: OT - Unbelievable Truth

Message 3 / 17
mathewMay 5, 2012
 
 
Thanks badger for the link but it seems like i would have to download a whole load of series to get 4 episodes. Anyone know where to get individual episodes?
--- In just-a-minute@..., badger dance <badger_dance@...> wrote:
>
> > Is anyone able to provide the following episodes of The Unbelievable Truth:
>
> http://kat.ph/the-unbelievable-truth-s01-to-06-audio-comedy-mp3-slimoo-t4581021.html
>

 
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Topic: Re: OT - Unbelievable Truth

Message 4 / 17
Don JudgeMay 5, 2012
 
 
Mathew
Are you aware that that's a BitTorrent site and do you know how to use the Torrent files?

You download the appropriate Torrent file which you then load into a Torrent client.
My Torrent client (uTorrent) allows you to select which files in the Torrent to download.
You don't have to download them all.
 
--
Cheers

Don   __o
      \<,
.....O/ O




From: mathew <mat_bagnall@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Saturday, 5 May 2012, 18:33
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: OT - Unbelievable Truth


Thanks badger for the link but it seems like i would have to download a whole load of series to get 4 episodes. Anyone know where to get individual episodes?
--- In just-a-minute@..., badger dance <badger_dance@...> wrote:
>
> > Is anyone able to provide the following episodes of The Unbelievable Truth:
>
> http://kat.ph/the-unbelievable-truth-s01-to-06-audio-comedy-mp3-slimoo-t4581021.html
>




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Topic: Re: OT - Unbelievable Truth

Message 5 / 17
badger danceMay 5, 2012
 
 
Exactly as Don says.

Use uTorrent - read the FAQs and work slowly with care it is easy to just take exactly what you need only.

µTorrent Stable (3.1.3 build 27120) from here: http://www.utorrent.com/downloads

Also KAT does not require membership - although once you see the quality you might consider joining - no fees !

You might consider looking for JAM as well  : - ) 

 
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Topic: Re: OT - Unbelievable Truth

Message 6 / 17
mathewMay 5, 2012
 
 
Never been near or used a bit torrent so will have to do some learning. Thanks for the info guys.

--- In just-a-minute@..., badger dance <badger_dance@...> wrote:
>
> Exactly as Don says.
>
> Use uTorrent - read the FAQs and work slowly with care it is easy to just take exactly what you need only.
>
> µTorrent Stable (3.1.3 build 27120) from here: http://www.utorrent.com/downloads
>
> Also KAT does not require membership - although once you see the quality you might consider joining - no fees !
>
> You might consider looking for JAM as well  : - ) 
>

 
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Topic: Re: OT - Unbelievable Truth

Message 7 / 17
nylon netMay 5, 2012
 
 
A word or two of warning before you embark on a voyage into torrents...  it is the cyber wild west, and there are many blackhats and law-enforcers hiding behind rocks ready to shoot you. 

1. There are many fake downloads that require you to get passwords to unlock: they are dangerous and must be rejected. NEVER enter any information to any site that asks you to provide a password to 'unlock' a torrent. They are always evil.

2. Copyright monitors often post torrents and wait for people to download them. When they do, the downloaders' IP addresses can be harvested and copyright violation emails are sent to the downloaders' ISPs. One way to counteract this is with software like Peerblock (www.peerblock.com), which is a database of known copyright-trappers and blocks them from your download sources. Warning - this (like condoms and antivirus software) is an imperfect scheme, but it's better than going in bareback!

3. Be wary of downloads encoded in multiple RAR files. Sometimes, but not always, they are encoded to prevent you seeing what the real file contains.  Since most audio and video downloads are already encoded in compressed formats (MP3, DivX/AVI), further compression with RAR achieves little but to disguise the nature of the file.  Further tip: if the torrent contains a small sample of the downloadable file, it's often a sign of legitimacy.  You can download the sample before going on to download the entire file. This usually applies to big files - such as movies - rather than to audio files.

3. Big Suggestion - never download a torrent that has zero comments posted. It's like drinking from an unlabelled flask in a lab. Wait for a positive comment that it's safe and legitimate. If you later find download a passworded or otherwise incorrect file, be sure to warn others that it is bad.

4. Keep seeding (uploading the file you got) until you upload at least as much as you downloaded (a ratio of 1.0 or above). Files your love (e.g. JAM)  - keep seeding until the cows not only come home, but learn to play chess, and then go to bed.

Having now soiled your pristine underpants, you may be reticent to embark on the path to torrenting. This is understandable, because there are risks of viral infection (be sure to scan all downloads!) or accusations of copyright violation (but  there are many innocent and friendly files being distributed via torrents for free by legitimate sources.)

Be especially scared of downloading commercial software and serial-number-crackers - they are the real dangers, likely to contain viruses or trojan horses.  Again, rely a LOT on good comments from other downloaders, and scan frequently for malware (e.g. with Adaware). 

Beware of bogus malware scanners online - they will more likely infect you instead of protect you. Always give them a thorough online investigation before trying them out.  Some are legit, some are not.

If you are not adept at Googling security risks, or are unable to investigate your firewall to check which programs are allowed to penetrate it, you may choose not to enter the world of torrents. You may not be ready.

It is a lot like leaving the paddling pool and approaching a surf beach.

And, in the end, remember that downloading any copyrighted intellectual property (whether it is so marked or not) is both a civil and criminal offence in most western countries.

Good luck!
 
Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: mat_bagnall@...
Sent: Sat, 05 May 2012 23:01:28 -0000
To: just-a-minute@...
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: OT - Unbelievable Truth

 

Never been near or used a bit torrent so will have to do some learning. Thanks for the info guys.

--- In just-a-minute@..., badger dance <badger_dance@...> wrote:
>
> Exactly as Don says.
>
> Use uTorrent - read the FAQs and work slowly with care it is easy to just take exactly what you need only.
>
> µTorrent Stable (3.1.3 build 27120) from here: http://www.utorrent.com/downloads
>
> Also KAT does not require membership - although once you see the quality you might consider joining - no fees !
>
> You might consider looking for JAM as well  : - ) 
>


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Topic: Re: OT - Unbelievable Truth

Message 8 / 17
badger danceMay 6, 2012
 
 
Although most of Mark's warning email is correct - although dramatic.

The URL I posted for Unbelievable Truth at KAT.ph is perfectly safe.

Peerblock is flaky - it carries as many false positives as it does false negatives.

It's only adopted by the newbies within the P2P community that lack experience.

But the warning about copyright is correct, although some people think the law does not apply to them.

 
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Topic: Re: OT - Unbelievable Truth

Message 9 / 17
mathewMay 6, 2012
 
 
The reason why ive never bothered with bit torrent sites is because of all the unknowns behind the links and therefore avoid completely. I had a think after my last post about learning and i came to the conclusion that 4 episodes of TUT are not worth sweating it over virus's and being exported to the US on copyright charges. I also dont have £5k lying around. Plus i like my computer healthy.
Admittedly worse case scenarios but thats where my thinking goes on these things. I know there will be some very nice clean torrents posted by very nice people but im not brave enough to chance it.
Plus all this stuff about seeding and leeching and ratios and ratings not going below 1.


--- In just-a-minute@..., badger dance <badger_dance@...> wrote:
>
> Although most of Mark's warning email is correct - although dramatic.
>
> The URL I posted for Unbelievable Truth at KAT.ph is perfectly safe.
>
> Peerblock is flaky - it carries as many false positives as it does false negatives.
>
> It's only adopted by the newbies within the P2P community that lack experience.
>
> But the warning about copyright is correct, although some people think the law does not apply to them.
>

 
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Topic: Re: OT - Unbelievable Truth

Message 10 / 17
Robert HarmanMay 6, 2012
 
 
Here's a Mediafire link to Series 3 Episodes 5 & 6: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ev9ks3y0m831ee2

And I should have the other two up within the hour.

Robert

 
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Topic: Re: OT - Unbelievable Truth

Message 11 / 17
Robert HarmanMay 6, 2012
 
 
And as promised the link to S5 E1 & 2: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ii6ni2t1yirty9y

Robert

 
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Topic: Re: OT - Unbelievable Truth

Message 12 / 17
mathewMay 6, 2012
 
 
Thank you. Can now look at all the episodes happy.

--- In just-a-minute@..., Robert Harman <eriatarka1@...> wrote:
>
> And as promised the link to S5 E1 & 2:
> http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ii6ni2t1yirty9y
>
> Robert
>

 
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Topic: Re: OT - Unbelievable Truth

Message 13 / 17
Don JudgeMay 6, 2012
 
 
Agree with all/most of that, "caveat emptor" applies Big Time on t'Internet, there's a lot of nasty people out there.

However, you can negate most of that by sticking to Torrent sites which you have to register to join - I do.
These include UKNova, The Box, Radioarchive, TV Torrents and more....
I've been a member of those, and more, for many years and have never had an issue with any of them.
 
--
Cheers

Don   __o
      \<,
.....O/ O




From: nylon net <nylon@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Sunday, 6 May 2012, 7:25
Subject: RE: [just-a-minute] Re: OT - Unbelievable Truth



A word or two of warning before you embark on a voyage into torrents...  it is the cyber wild west, and there are many blackhats and law-enforcers hiding behind rocks ready to shoot you. 

1. There are many fake downloads that require you to get passwords to unlock: they are dangerous and must be rejected. NEVER enter any information to any site that asks you to provide a password to 'unlock' a torrent. They are always evil.

2. Copyright monitors often post torrents and wait for people to download them. When they do, the downloaders' IP addresses can be harvested and copyright violation emails are sent to the downloaders' ISPs. One way to counteract this is with software like Peerblock (www.peerblock.com), which is a database of known copyright-trappers and blocks them from your download sources. Warning - this (like condoms and antivirus software) is an imperfect scheme, but it's better than going in bareback!

3. Be wary of downloads encoded in multiple RAR files. Sometimes, but not always, they are encoded to prevent you seeing what the real file contains.  Since most audio and video downloads are already encoded in compressed formats (MP3, DivX/AVI), further compression with RAR achieves little but to disguise the nature of the file.  Further tip: if the torrent contains a small sample of the downloadable file, it's often a sign of legitimacy.  You can download the sample before going on to download the entire file. This usually applies to big files - such as movies - rather than to audio files.

3. Big Suggestion - never download a torrent that has zero comments posted. It's like drinking from an unlabelled flask in a lab. Wait for a positive comment that it's safe and legitimate. If you later find download a passworded or otherwise incorrect file, be sure to warn others that it is bad.

4. Keep seeding (uploading the file you got) until you upload at least as much as you downloaded (a ratio of 1.0 or above). Files your love (e.g. JAM)  - keep seeding until the cows not only come home, but learn to play chess, and then go to bed.

Having now soiled your pristine underpants, you may be reticent to embark on the path to torrenting. This is understandable, because there are risks of viral infection (be sure to scan all downloads!) or accusations of copyright violation (but  there are many innocent and friendly files being distributed via torrents for free by legitimate sources.)

Be especially scared of downloading commercial software and serial-number-crackers - they are the real dangers, likely to contain viruses or trojan horses.  Again, rely a LOT on good comments from other downloaders, and scan frequently for malware (e.g. with Adaware). 

Beware of bogus malware scanners online - they will more likely infect you instead of protect you. Always give them a thorough online investigation before trying them out.  Some are legit, some are not.

If you are not adept at Googling security risks, or are unable to investigate your firewall to check which programs are allowed to penetrate it, you may choose not to enter the world of torrents. You may not be ready.

It is a lot like leaving the paddling pool and approaching a surf beach.

And, in the end, remember that downloading any copyrighted intellectual property (whether it is so marked or not) is both a civil and criminal offence in most western countries.

Good luck!
 
Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: mat_bagnall@...
Sent: Sat, 05 May 2012 23:01:28 -0000
To: just-a-minute@...
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: OT - Unbelievable Truth

 
Never been near or used a bit torrent so will have to do some learning. Thanks for the info guys.

--- In just-a-minute@..., badger dance <badger_dance@...> wrote:
>
> Exactly as Don says.
>
> Use uTorrent - read the FAQs and work slowly with care it is easy to just take exactly what you need only.
>
> µTorrent Stable (3.1.3 build 27120) from here: http://www.utorrent.com/downloads
>
> Also KAT does not require membership - although once you see the quality you might consider joining - no fees !
>
> You might consider looking for JAM as well  : - ) 
>


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Topic: Re: OT - Unbelievable Truth

Message 14 / 17
Espen KrømkeMay 6, 2012
 
 
I've never had any problems with the kind of torrents we talk about here either. It's good practise to be careful, and if you don't know what you are doing you are probably better off not doing it, so there's been many good advices on this topic here in this list.

I just want to make one thing clear here: There are no mp3 files with virus in them, simply cause there are no technical reason to insert a virus into them. There is nothing in an mp3 file that are executed, or "run". Those files are only read, so a virus inserted in a mp3 file would just cause a huge amount of noise when played and that's it. No program can ever start from within a mp3 file.
So downloading mp3 files are, simply put, completely harmless.

The kind of files you all need to be careful with are software, programs you run. With "software" I mean everything from a pirated copy of Windows to MS Office, Photoshop, all those kind of software and tools to "crack" them. That's where you find virus, trojans, spyware and so forth. Stay away from those, and you are pretty much safe when it comes to torrents.

I *almost* dare to personally guarantee you all that there does not exist a single torrent containing Just A Minute recordings anywhere on the Internet that pose any risk at all. The torrent technology is well worth getting to know, it's an excellent technology. Just use a serious torrent site (several are mentioned already) and only download the collections that gives you direct access to the mp3 files (no "zip/rar" compressed files) and you are



On 06. mai 2012 19:22, Don Judge wrote:  
Agree with all/most of that, "caveat emptor" applies Big Time on t'Internet, there's a lot of nasty people out there.

However, you can negate most of that by sticking to Torrent sites which you have to register to join - I do.
These include UKNova, The Box, Radioarchive, TV Torrents and more....
I've been a member of those, and more, for many years and have never had an issue with any of them.
 



 
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Topic: Re: OT - Unbelievable Truth

Message 15 / 17
mathewMay 6, 2012
 
 
Throwing my two cents Zip & Rar folders should be ok IF scanned first by a reputable high quality Virus Checker (i use Kaspersky). I personally would never open anything without scanning it first. . With anything common sense is a must.

Aside from the possible nasty ingredients of torrent sites i have never understood the whole thing of leeches and seeds, leeches sound horrible and nasty. 1 joined one but never used it, and it has a rating thing which just lost me in a world of 'huhs'.

--- In just-a-minute@..., "Espen Krømke" <espen.kromke@...> wrote:
>
> I've never had any problems with the kind of torrents we talk about here
> either. It's good practise to be careful, and if you don't know what you
> are doing you are probably better off not doing it, so there's been many
> good advices on this topic here in this list.
>
> I just want to make one thing clear here: There are no mp3 files with
> virus in them, simply cause there are no technical reason to insert a
> virus into them. There is nothing in an mp3 file that are executed, or
> "run". Those files are only read, so a virus inserted in a mp3 file
> would just cause a huge amount of noise when played and that's it. No
> program can ever start from within a mp3 file.
> So downloading mp3 files are, simply put, completely harmless.
>
> The kind of files you all need to be careful with are software, programs
> you run. With "software" I mean everything from a pirated copy of
> Windows to MS Office, Photoshop, all those kind of software and tools to
> "crack" them. That's where you find virus, trojans, spyware and so
> forth. Stay away from those, and you are pretty much safe when it comes
> to torrents.
>
> I *almost* dare to personally guarantee you all that there does not
> exist a single torrent containing Just A Minute recordings anywhere on
> the Internet that pose any risk at all. The torrent technology is well
> worth getting to know, it's an excellent technology. Just use a serious
> torrent site (several are mentioned already) and only download the
> collections that gives you direct access to the mp3 files (no "zip/rar"
> compressed files) and you are
>
>
>
> On 06. mai 2012 19:22, Don Judge wrote:
> > Agree with all/most of that, "caveat emptor" applies Big Time on
> > t'Internet, there's a lot of nasty people out there.
> >
> > However, you can negate most of that by sticking to Torrent sites
> > which you have to register to join - I do.
> > These include UKNova, The Box, Radioarchive, TV Torrents and more....
> > I've been a member of those, and more, for many years and have never
> > had an issue with any of them.
>

 
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Topic: Re: OT - Unbelievable Truth

Message 16 / 17
Don JudgeMay 6, 2012
 
 
'Seeding' and 'Leeching' are just words to describe the uploading and downloading processes of sharing a file.
If you have a complete copy of the file in your sharing folder and your client is uploading parts of it then you are 'Seeding' the file.
If you do not yet have the complete file and your client is downloading missing parts then you may (erroneously) sometimes be called a 'Leech'.*

The proper term for this is that you are a 'Peer'; you are a true Leech if you close your share as soon as you have got all the file without giving at least as much of it back which is considered bad (n)etiquette.

* One of the really clever things about Bit Torrents is that your client can upload and download parts of the file at the same time.
Clever, huh?
 
--
Cheers

Don   __o
      \<,
.....O/ O




From: mathew <mat_bagnall@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Sunday, 6 May 2012, 23:08
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: OT - Unbelievable Truth

Throwing my two cents Zip & Rar folders should be ok IF scanned first by a reputable high quality Virus Checker (i use Kaspersky). I personally would never open anything without scanning it first. . With anything common sense is a must.

Aside from the possible nasty ingredients of torrent sites i have never understood the whole thing of leeches and seeds, leeches sound horrible and nasty. 1 joined one but never used it, and it has a rating thing which just lost me in a world of 'huhs'.

--- In just-a-minute@..., "Espen Krømke" <espen.kromke@...> wrote:
>
> I've never had any problems with the kind of torrents we talk about here
> either. It's good practise to be careful, and if you don't know what you
> are doing you are probably better off not doing it, so there's been many
> good advices on this topic here in this list.
>
> I just want to make one thing clear here: There are no mp3 files with
> virus in them, simply cause there are no technical reason to insert a
> virus into them. There is nothing in an mp3 file that are executed, or
> "run". Those files are only read, so a virus inserted in a mp3 file
> would just cause a huge amount of noise when played and that's it. No
> program can ever start from within a mp3 file.
> So downloading mp3 files are, simply put, completely harmless.
>
> The kind of files you all need to be careful with are software, programs
> you run. With "software" I mean everything from a pirated copy of
> Windows to MS Office, Photoshop, all those kind of software and tools to
> "crack" them. That's where you find virus, trojans, spyware and so
> forth. Stay away from those, and you are pretty much safe when it comes
> to torrents.
>
> I *almost* dare to personally guarantee you all that there does not
> exist a single torrent containing Just A Minute recordings anywhere on
> the Internet that pose any risk at all. The torrent technology is well
> worth getting to know, it's an excellent technology. Just use a serious
> torrent site (several are mentioned already) and only download the
> collections that gives you direct access to the mp3 files (no "zip/rar"
> compressed files) and you are
>
>
>
> On 06. mai 2012 19:22, Don Judge wrote:
> > Agree with all/most of that, "caveat emptor" applies Big Time on
> > t'Internet, there's a lot of nasty people out there.
> >
> > However, you can negate most of that by sticking to Torrent sites
> > which you have to register to join - I do.
> > These include UKNova, The Box, Radioarchive, TV Torrents and more....
> > I've been a member of those, and more, for many years and have never
> > had an issue with any of them.
>




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Message 17 / 17
badger danceMay 6, 2012
 
 
> Throwing my two cents Zip & Rar folders should be ok IF scanned
first by a reputable high quality Virus Checker....

I think it is worth pointing out a difference between downloading .MP3 or .AVI /.MP4 etc media files from torrent sources (or on-line file stores) compared to any PC / mobile-phone application.

If you are using a good media player that does not have a history of vulnerabilities you are not exposing yourself/your PC to malicious attacks. 

Good media player = VLC. (http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-windows.html)

Bad media player = Windows Media Player. (It is vulnerable to codec attacks)

In the torrenting world you might encounter a programme that when downloaded/played reports that it needs a special codec to play. This is a scam - just delete it and move on.

If you use VLC to play the file it will either play perfectly or the file is duff. Delete the duff file and move on. If you are a good member of an on-line community you will report the offending file to the site moderators.

I don't scan MP3/AVI etc. as I will only play them with VLC

The worst I experience is a video message suggesting I visit a web-site to get the "special" media-player or download a "special" codec - these are scams, delete the file and move on.


When downloading computer programs if they are packed in RAR, ZIP etc or just plain .EXE etc. you are wise to apply brain before clicking away like crazy. You do need to consider the source, who has uploaded the program. Most torrent sites will show the member's history and their status. Some sites have badges of merit like "Trusted Uploader", "Moderators" or "Super User" etc. By looking at the status of the uploader you can generally guess if their torrent is good or bad.

So be picky before jumping in and read the feedback from others first.

Everyone was a newbie at one time so to give them a chance some of us (yes I am a senior member on a few torrent sites) use our skills to assess and prune out the bad from the innocent, why? It's a service to the wider P2P community and helps the sites I belong to, it also helps protect the newbies coming into the P2P world by removing the malicious torrents.

So if you engage brain before keyboard you will have a good torrenting experience.

But it's not for everyone that lacks clear thought and self-control.


Kaspersky is good but it is wise not to put all your security trust in one product.

 
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