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Re: Is the BBC our friend?

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DavidAug 30, 2012
 
 
Thanks for the replies. Just to add my perspective:

1 - I love the BBC. As I live in South Korea I mainly access the BBC through the website - which in my view is second to none. Sunday morning I check the football results, it has fantastic resources for my students, of course I listen to radio shows etc etc.

2 - Yes the BBC is a business........but I suspect it is a special kind of business. Not all of its shows are made because they are big money earners. There are sometimes educational issues, symbolic things. What I means is that there are more concerns than say CNN or Fox News. Sometimes (and for me this is strange) things are not done because we are told that this should be done by a commercial enterprise. Stopping something because it is too popular is still very strange to me.

3 - My feeling is the BBC is BIG and so therefore there will be contradictions between different decisions and different departments.

4 - The BBC changes through time. I too am still waiting for the release of the BBC digital archive. Things like the Desert Island Disc Archive is fantastic - I just hope that there are more things like that to come.

5 - I hate controversy but here goes. It could be argued that as a state broadcaster the BBC is owned by the British people. It is not like paying a subscription service to a commercial venture. This is a possible area where people can argue about recording and distributing shows. Personally I grew up recording pop songs from my little portable radio and then I started doing the same with comedy shows. To be fair I feel that the BBC has been very tolerant of people like us sharing shows. However, something deep inside me tells me that this may change

6 - Finally I feel that maybe the BBC is like the university where I work. At my university there are the professors and the administrators. The professors have great ideas and then the administrators tell you why there is not the money to do it. You have to work within the constraints imposed upon you. This can make you more creative and it can also make you very frustrated. However, if you do something newsworthy on your own they love the reflected glory. Maybe this is a common structure of many large organizations.

Anyway, thanks for your comments. I hope that the BBC continues in its current format even though I know that change is inevitable.

Love as always, David






--- In just-a-minute@..., Steve Kenrick <steve.kenrick@...> wrote:
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> 2. Paying the license fee only gives one the right to watch tv programmes as they are broadcast. The money buys the individual the "ownership" of nothing.
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> Government interference leading to a freeze of the license fee was stupid and has led to the BBC's main competitor getting stronger. Personally, I think the fee is fantastic value for money, when I consider how much output from the BBC goes to entertaining me each day, without the adverts (most of which are moronic) oozing from my equipment courtesy of the commercial wallahs. That of course includes radio, which although can be heard live without a license, is funded directly and indirectly from the license fee pot.
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> Although I agree with the criticism of the BBC for wiping so many tapes, it would have taken a wiser man than me to have made a different decision regarding those now lost "gems". At the time, it must have seemed the correct thing to do, after all they had every right to think that only a handful of people would have been interested in watching/hearing the lost "gems" after so many years had passed. They were wrong, but we only know that with hindsight. Additionally, the BBC were not alone in wiping or ditching tapes, other broadcasters like ITV did the same.
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> As Dean points out, peoples' tastes change. I no longer laugh at all the things I used to. What's popular with me and my associates need not be the same for the majority of people. Most of the younger generation I know do not listen to speech radio of any kind. That's a lot of lugholes, which could if they were attached to wiser brains, be boosting the BBC's listening figures.
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> It's hard to imagine programmes like JAM and Clue carrying on for another 40 years, which is a shame as the format of both programmes is such that they could continue indefinitely, with topical tweaks and not sound old or tired. The sad truth is that the vast majority of listeners to these programme are baby boomers, with most of them in the autumn of their lives. Hence, when enough of those have gone to the big theatre in the sky, alternative programmes will replace these and other favourites.
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> I was hoping someone from Britain might respond to your interesting post. As no-one has done, I am writing a few lines, so that you at least know I read and thought about your post.
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> I work for the public non-commercial broadcaster here in New Zealand so some of what you say strikes chords with me.
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