On 30. sep. 2012 04:14, Wayne Styles wrote:
--- In just-a-minute@..., "Espen Krømke" <espen.kromke@...> wrote:
>
> Well, if BBC think anything like me, my guess would be that they simply
> find the newer shows to be more fun to listen to. I know I do. The only
> reason why I keep pre-Merton shows in the JAMmer shoutcast
> (stream.beatradar.com) is because I know there are some who still
> appreciate those shows.
>
> In fact, I would not even have been a JAM fan today, had it not been for
> the era introduced with Merton.
>
>
>
> On 30. sep. 2012 04:14, Wayne Styles wrote:
> > Hi
> > It could be that they have sold the rights to other publishers for CDs
> > etc before they realised the income to be made or they still own the
> > rights and the sales from older broadcasts may be another income
> > stream. Dont know for sure, but its worth a guess.
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > *From:* mat_bagnall <mat_bagnall@...>
> > *To:* just-a! -minute@...
> > *Sent:* Sunday, 30 September 2012, 3:05
> > *Subject:* [just-a-minute] Pre Merton Broadcasts
> >
> > Is there a reason why the BBC dont broadcast old episodes before Paul
> > Merton joined. More often than not they will air episodes from the
> > 90's onwards eg when they rebroadcast shows at the launch of 4 extra
> > they were various ones from Series 32 onwards.
> > Surely listeners would enjoy a run featuring Williams, Jones, Nimmo &
> > Freud and its not as if the humour would be outdated - before some of
> > the 50's shows the announcer will warn listeners that the humour might
> > be slightly outdated.
> >
> > Has this ever been raised or requested?
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
--- In just-a-minute@..., "Espen Krømke" <espen.kromke@...> wrote:
>
> Well, if BBC think anything like me, my guess would be that they simply
> find the newer shows to be more fun to listen to. I know I do. The only
> reason why I keep pre-Merton shows in the JAMmer shoutcast
> (stream.beatradar.com) is because I know there are some who still
> appreciate those shows.
>
> In fact, I would not even have been a JAM fan today, had it not been for
> the era introduced with Merton.
>
>
>
> On 30. sep. 2012 04:14, Wayne Styles wrote:
> > Hi
> > It could be that they have sold the rights to other publishers for CDs
> > etc before they realised the income to be made or they still own the
> > rights and the sales from older broadcasts may be another income
> > stream. Dont know for sure, but its worth a guess.
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > *From:* mat_bagnall <mat_bagnall@...>
> > *To:* just-a! -minute@...
> > *Sent:* Sunday, 30 September 2012, 3:05
> > *Subject:* [just-a-minute] Pre Merton Broadcasts
> >
> > Is there a reason why the BBC dont broadcast old episodes before Paul
> > Merton joined. More often than not they will air episodes from the
> > 90's onwards eg when they rebroadcast shows at the launch of 4 extra
> > they were various ones from Series 32 onwards.
> > Surely listeners would enjoy a run featuring Williams, Jones, Nimmo &
> > Freud and its not as if the humour would be outdated - before some of
> > the 50's shows the announcer will warn listeners that the humour might
> > be slightly outdated.
> >
> > Has this ever been raised or requested?
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 3:36 AM, Espen Krømke <espen.kromke@...> wrote:Well, if BBC think anything like me, my guess would be that they simply find the newer shows to be more fun to listen to. I know I do. The only reason why I keep pre-Merton shows in the JAMmer shoutcast (stream.beatradar.com) is because I know there are some who still appreciate those shows.
In fact, I would not even have been a JAM fan today, had it not been for the era introduced with Merton.
On 30. sep. 2012 04:14, Wayne Styles wrote:HiIt could be that they have sold the rights to other publishers for CDs etc before they realised the income to be made or they still own the rights and the sales from older broadcasts may be another income stream. Dont know for sure, but its worth a guess.
From: mat_bagnall <mat_bagnall@...>
To: just-a! -minute@...Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012, 3:05
Subject: [just-a-minute] Pre Merton BroadcastsIs there a reason why the BBC dont broadcast old episodes before Paul Merton joined. More often than not they will air episodes from the 90's onwards eg when they rebroadcast shows at the launch of 4 extra they were various ones from Series 32 onwards.
Surely listeners would enjoy a run featuring Williams, Jones, Nimmo & Freud and its not as if the humour would be outdated - before some of the 50's shows the announcer will warn listeners that the humour might be slightly outdated.
Has this ever been raised or requested?
--- In just-a-minute@..., Wayne Styles <wayne.styles@...> wrote:
>
> Interesting point, I like the older shows and listen regularly to them. Yes they are slower, but they do entertain and the regulars such as Peter Jones, Kenneth Williams and Clement Freud were funny in different ways. Some of the guests were just so bad at it as well, made it all the more funny, Aimee McDonald and Wendy Richard always make me giggle. If you get a chance do listen to these show to get an insight into how things have moved on as well.
> Kenneth was a really odd man in public and private and listening to him at times gave an insight into his state of mind.
> In a recent interview a producer "cant remember his name" said that he would lift his arms up to indicate to Kenneth to give the show a boost and off he would go, then lower his arms again to indicate to Kenneth to let the show calm down and that he was the only person who could do this.
> Dont get me wrong I like Paul on the show and he does give it his all most of the time, but I dont always get the laughs out of the show that the older ones provide.
>
> Each to his or her own I suppose.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: kj.naughton <kj.naughton@...>
> To: just-a-minute@...
> Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012, 12:17
> Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: Pre Merton Broadcasts
>
>
>
> I couldn't agree more. I am not a fan of the older shows at all.
>
> I'm not sure why it is that I don't like the older shows. Perhaps it's to do with dated humour; perhaps it's to do with the format and dynamics of the show which have changed subtly over the decades; perhaps (and please don't take this the wrong way) it's because it's a panel of four people who have largely slipped from the public memory.
>
> I'm sure there are lots of people who would love to hear the older shows. I certainly have no objection to them being re-broadcast. Just not at the expense of the newer shows.
>
> I expect that the BBC will still own the UK broadcast rights for all JaM shows. One consideration may be that some of the older shows are available for purchase on CD and MP3 (I know some of the newer ones are too). Whether re-broadcasting the older shows would stimulate interest in the CDs and therefore boost their sales or people would record them and depress CD sales is a debatable point.
>
> Cheers
>
> kJ
>
> --- In just-a-minute@..., "Espen Krømke" <espen.kromke@> wrote:
> >
> > Well, if BBC think anything like me, my guess would be that they simply
> > find the newer shows to be more fun to listen to. I know I do. The only
> > reason why I keep pre-Merton shows in the JAMmer shoutcast
> > (stream.beatradar.com) is because I know there are some who still
> > appreciate those shows.
> >
> > In fact, I would not even have been a JAM fan today, had it not been for
> > the era introduced with Merton.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 30. sep. 2012 04:14, Wayne Styles wrote:
> > > Hi
> > > It could be that they have sold the rights to other publishers for CDs
> > > etc before they realised the income to be made or they still own the
> > > rights and the sales from older broadcasts may be another income
> > > stream. Dont know for sure, but its worth a guess.
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > > *From:* mat_bagnall <mat_bagnall@>
> > > *To:* just-a! -minute@...
> > > *Sent:* Sunday, 30 September 2012, 3:05
> > > *Subject:* [just-a-minute] Pre Merton Broadcasts
> > >
> > > Is there a reason why the BBC dont broadcast old episodes before Paul
> > > Merton joined. More often than not they will air episodes from the
> > > 90's onwards eg when they rebroadcast shows at the launch of 4 extra
> > > they were various ones from Series 32 onwards.
> > > Surely listeners would enjoy a run featuring Williams, Jones, Nimmo &
> > > Freud and its not as if the humour would be outdated - before some of
> > > the 50's shows the announcer will warn listeners that the humour might
> > > be slightly outdated.
> > >
> > > Has this ever been raised or requested?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
On 30 Sep 2012, at 10:34, "James R Curry" <scratchy@...> wrote:
I, for one, love the classic era shows and still miss the four regulars terribly.
That said, I thought we discussed this before and one of the reasons for the BBC's limited selection in airings is the fact that they don't have a well-organised archived of early JAM. Or am I mis-remembering?On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 3:36 AM, Espen Krømke <espen.kromke@...> wrote:Well, if BBC think anything like me, my guess would be that they simply find the newer shows to be more fun to listen to. I know I do. The only reason why I keep pre-Merton shows in the JAMmer shoutcast (stream.beatradar.com) is because I know there are some who still appreciate those shows.
In fact, I would not even have been a JAM fan today, had it not been for the era introduced with Merton.
On 30. sep. 2012 04:14, Wayne Styles wrote:HiIt could be that they have sold the rights to other publishers for CDs etc before they realised the income to be made or they still own the rights and the sales from older broadcasts may be another income stream. Dont know for sure, but its worth a guess.
From: mat_bagnall <mat_bagnall@...>
To: just-a! -minute@...Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012, 3:05
Subject: [just-a-minute] Pre Merton BroadcastsIs there a reason why the BBC dont broadcast old episodes before Paul Merton joined. More often than not they will air episodes from the 90's onwards eg when they rebroadcast shows at the launch of 4 extra they were various ones from Series 32 onwards.
Surely listeners would enjoy a run featuring Williams, Jones, Nimmo & Freud and its not as if the humour would be outdated - before some of the 50's shows the announcer will warn listeners that the humour might be slightly outdated.
Has this ever been raised or requested?
--
James R Curry
>Dean here: Obviously I'm not in Britain and following the schedules closely, but I thought they were re-running 80s shows two or three years ago.
> Is there a reason why the BBC dont broadcast old episodes before Paul Merton joined.
>Dean here: They are still selling rebroadcast rights and the CDs are published by the BBC itself, are they not?
> It could be that they have sold the rights to other publishers for CDs etc before they realised the income to be made or they still own the rights and the sales from older broadcasts may be another income stream.
>Dean here: That was David Hatch.
> In a recent interview a producer "cant remember his name" said that he would lift his arms up to indicate to Kenneth to give the show a boost and off he would go, then lower his arms again to indicate to Kenneth to let the show calm down and that he was the only person who could do this.
>Dean here: When I was helping the BBC producer pick bits for the three hour special that aired earlier this year, I was sending him ideas and he was coming back, having listened to the shows within two hours or so. He clearly had ready access to all the shows.
> I thought we discussed this before and one of the reasons for
> the BBC's limited selection in airings is the fact that they don't have a
> well-organised archived of early JAM. Or am I mis-remembering?
>Dean here: He said the pilot wasn't good and has said the first series or so wasn't as good as it could have been because of the more complicated rules. But that still leaves about 350 shows in the Kenneth Williams era.
> Listened to the Jam Masterclass last night and Nocolas said the early shows werent deemed that great which they arent
- JAM had a serious side. Just listen to Kenneth Williams when he is interrupted 15 seconds into talking about some (relatively obscure) historical figure. They just wouldn't have that type of topic today.
> But I laugh harder at Kenneth and I think thhe BBC SHOULD play his shows. He deserves to be - to use one of his own phrases...Hahaha!
>
> "A cult! An enormous cult! He should be the biggest cult around here!"
On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 11:30 PM, deanbedford <dbedford@...> wrote:--
Dean here: When I was helping the BBC producer pick bits for the three hour special that aired earlier this year, I was sending him ideas and he was coming back, having listened to the shows within two hours or so. He clearly had ready access to all the shows.
Ah, yes - I do remember you saying this before, and then someone else claiming that very few early shows are in the regular old BBC archive. I thought the statements were somewhat incompatible at the time. As you spoke to someone who was actually pulling and listening to the shows then the evidence is obviously pretty conclusive; the BBC have an organised archive available to them.
James R Curry
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Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: Pre Merton BroadcastsOn Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 11:30 PM, deanbedford <dbedford@...> wrote:
--
Dean here: When I was helping the BBC producer pick bits for the three hour special that aired earlier this year, I was sending him ideas and he was coming back, having listened to the shows within two hours or so. He clearly had ready access to all the shows.
Ah, yes - I do remember you saying this before, and then someone else claiming that very few early shows are in the regular old BBC archive. I thought the statements were somewhat incompatible at the time. As you spoke to someone who was actually pulling and listening to the shows then the evidence is obviously pretty conclusive; the BBC have an organised archive available to them.
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Interesting point, I like the older shows and listen regularly to them. Yes they are slower, but they do entertain and the regulars such as Peter Jones, Kenneth Williams and Clement Freud were funny in different ways. Some of the guests were just so bad at it as well, made it all the more funny, Aimee McDonald and Wendy Richard always make me giggle. If you get a chance do listen to these show to get an insight into how things have moved on as well.Kenneth was a really odd man in public and private and listening to him at times gave an insight into his state of mind.In a recent interview a producer "cant remember his name" said that he would lift his arms up to indicate to Kenneth to give the show a boost and off he would go, then lower his arms again to indicate to Kenneth to let the show calm down and that he was the only person who could do this.Dont get me wrong I like Paul on the show and he does give it his all most of the time, but I dont always get the laughs out of the show that the older ones provide.Each to his or her own I suppose.
From: kj.naughton <kj.naughton@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012, 12:17
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: Pre Merton BroadcastsI couldn't agree more. I am not a fan of the older shows at all.
I'm not sure why it is that I don't like the older shows. Perhaps it's to do with dated humour; perhaps it's to do with the format and dynamics of the show which have changed subtly over the decades; perhaps (and please don't take this the wrong way) it's because it's a panel of four people who have largely slipped from the public memory.
I'm sure there are lots of people who would love to hear the older shows. I certainly have no objection to them being re-broadcast. Just not at the expense of the newer shows.
I expect that the BBC will still own the UK broadcast rights for all JaM shows. One consideration may be that some of the older shows are available for purchase on CD and MP3 (I know some of the newer ones are too). Whether re-broadcasting the older shows would stimulate interest in the CDs and therefore boost their sales or people would record them and depress CD sales is a debatable point.
Cheers
kJ
--- In just-a-minute@..., "Espen Krømke" <espen.kromke@...> wrote:
>
> Well, if BBC think anything like me, my guess would be that they simply
> find the newer shows to be more fun to listen to. I know I do. The only
> reason why I keep pre-Merton shows in the JAMmer shoutcast
> (stream.beatradar.com) is because I know there are some who still
> appreciate those shows.
>
> In fact, I would not even have been a JAM fan today, had it not been for
> the era introduced with Merton.
>
>
>
> On 30. sep. 2012 04:14, Wayne Styles wrote:
> > Hi
> > It could be that they have sold the rights to other publishers for CDs
> > etc before they realised the income to be made or they still own the
> > rights and the sales from older broadcasts may be another income
> > stream. Dont know for sure, but its worth a guess.
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > *From:* mat_bagnall <mat_bagnall@...>
> > *To:* just-a! -minute@...
> > *Sent:* Sunday, 30 September 2012, 3:05
> > *Subject:* [just-a-minute] Pre Merton Broadcasts
> >
> > Is there a reason why the BBC dont broadcast old episodes before Paul
> > Merton joined. More often than not they will air episodes from the
> > 90's onwards eg when they rebroadcast shows at the launch of 4 extra
> > they were various ones from Series 32 onwards.
> > Surely listeners would enjoy a run featuring Williams, Jones, Nimmo &
> > Freud and its not as if the humour would be outdated - before some of
> > the 50's shows the announcer will warn listeners that the humour might
> > be slightly outdated.
> >
> > Has this ever been raised or requested?
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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I am a big fan of the older shows. They were quality. Nowadays people interupt for the sake of it and hardly anyone speaks for a whole minute. I still like the show, but not a patch on the Derek Nimmo, Clement Freud, Sheila Hancock, Kenneth Williams and Peter Jones days. Paul Merton is good, but I don't want him on every show.Does anyone have some old shows to share please?Robert
-----Original Message-----
From: just-a-minute@... [mailto:just-a-minute@...]On Behalf Of Wayne Styles
Sent: 30 September 2012 12:49
To: just-a-minute@...
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: Pre Merton Broadcasts
Interesting point, I like the older shows and listen regularly to them. Yes they are slower, but they do entertain and the regulars such as Peter Jones, Kenneth Williams and Clement Freud were funny in different ways. Some of the guests were just so bad at it as well, made it all the more funny, Aimee McDonald and Wendy Richard always make me giggle. If you get a chance do listen to these show to get an insight into how things have moved on as well.Kenneth was a really odd man in public and private and listening to him at times gave an insight into his state of mind.In a recent interview a producer "cant remember his name" said that he would lift his arms up to indicate to Kenneth to give the show a boost and off he would go, then lower his arms again to indicate to Kenneth to let the show calm down and that he was the only person who could do this.Dont get me wrong I like Paul on the show and he does give it his all most of the time, but I dont always get the laughs out of the show that the older ones provide.
Each to his or her own I suppose.
From: kj.naughton <kj.naughton@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012, 12:17
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: Pre Merton Broadcasts
I couldn't agree more. I am not a fan of the older shows at all.
I'm not sure why it is that I don't like the older shows. Perhaps it's to do with dated humour; perhaps it's to do with the format and dynamics of the show which have changed subtly over the decades; perhaps (and please don't take this the wrong way) it's because it's a panel of four people who have largely slipped from the public memory.
I'm sure there are lots of people who would love to hear the older shows. I certainly have no objection to them being re-broadcast. Just not at the expense of the newer shows.
I expect that the BBC will still own the UK broadcast rights for all JaM shows. One consideration may be that some of the older shows are available for purchase on CD and MP3 (I know some of the newer ones are too). Whether re-broadcasting the older shows would stimulate interest in the CDs and therefore boost their sales or people would record them and depress CD sales is a debatable point.
Cheers
kJ
--- In just-a-minute@..., "Espen Krømke" <espen.kromke@...> wrote:
>
> Well, if BBC think anything like me, my guess would be that they simply
> find the newer shows to be more fun to listen to. I know I do. The only
> reason why I keep pre-Merton shows in the JAMmer shoutcast
> (stream.beatradar.com) is because I know there are some who still
> appreciate those shows.
>
> In fact, I would not even have been a JAM fan today, had it not been for
> the era introduced with Merton.
>
>
On 3 Oct 2012, at 08:21, "Robert" <robert@...> wrote:
I am a big fan of the older shows. They were quality. Nowadays people interupt for the sake of it and hardly anyone speaks for a whole minute. I still like the show, but not a patch on the Derek Nimmo, Clement Freud, Sheila Hancock, Kenneth Williams and Peter Jones days. Paul Merton is good, but I don't want him on every show.Does anyone have some old shows to share please?Robert
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Sent: 30 September 2012 12:49
To: just-a-minute@...
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: Pre Merton BroadcastsInteresting point, I like the older shows and listen regularly to them. Yes they are slower, but they do entertain and the regulars such as Peter Jones, Kenneth Williams and Clement Freud were funny in different ways. Some of the guests were just so bad at it as well, made it all the more funny, Aimee McDonald and Wendy Richard always make me giggle. If you get a chance do listen to these show to get an insight into how things have moved on as well.Kenneth was a really odd man in public and private and listening to him at times gave an insight into his state of mind.In a recent interview a producer "cant remember his name" said that he would lift his arms up to indicate to Kenneth to give the show a boost and off he would go, then lower his arms again to indicate to Kenneth to let the show calm down and that he was the only person who could do this.Dont get me wrong I like Paul on the show and he does give it his all most of the time, but I dont always get the laughs out of the show that the older ones provide.Each to his or her own I suppose.
From: kj.naughton <kj.naughton@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012, 12:17
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: Pre Merton BroadcastsI couldn't agree more. I am not a fan of the older shows at all.
I'm not sure why it is that I don't like the older shows. Perhaps it's to do with dated humour; perhaps it's to do with the format and dynamics of the show which have changed subtly over the decades; perhaps (and please don't take this the wrong way) it's because it's a panel of four people who have largely slipped from the public memory.
I'm sure there are lots of people who would love to hear the older shows. I certainly have no objection to them being re-broadcast. Just not at the expense of the newer shows.
I expect that the BBC will still own the UK broadcast rights for all JaM shows. One consideration may be that some of the older shows are available for purchase on CD and MP3 (I know some of the newer ones are too). Whether re-broadcasting the older shows would stimulate interest in the CDs and therefore boost their sales or people would record them and depress CD sales is a debatable point.
Cheers
kJ
--- In just-a-minute@..., "Espen Krømke" <espen.kromke@...> wrote:
>
> Well, if BBC think anything like me, my guess would be that they simply
> find the newer shows to be more fun to listen to. I know I do. The only
> reason why I keep pre-Merton shows in the JAMmer shoutcast
> (stream.beatradar.com) is because I know there are some who still
> appreciate those shows.
>
> In fact, I would not even have been a JAM fan today, had it not been for
> the era introduced with Merton.
>
>
>
> On 30. sep. 2012 04:14, Wayne Styles wrote:
> > Hi
> > It could be that they have sold the rights to other publishers for CDs
> > etc before they realised the income to be made or they still own the
> > rights and the sales from older broadcasts may be another income
> > stream. Dont know for sure, but its worth a guess.
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > *From:* mat_bagnall <mat_bagnall@...>
> > *To:* just-a! -minute@...
> > *Sent:* Sunday, 30 September 2012, 3:05
> > *Subject:* [just-a-minute] Pre Merton Broadcasts
> >
> > Is there a reason why the BBC dont broadcast old episodes before Paul
> > Merton joined. More often than not they will air episodes from the
> > 90's onwards eg when they rebroadcast shows at the launch of 4 extra
> > they were various ones from Series 32 onwards.
> > Surely listeners would enjoy a run featuring Williams, Jones, Nimmo &
> > Freud and its not as if the humour would be outdated - before some of
> > the 50's shows the announcer will warn listeners that the humour might
> > be slightly outdated.
> >
> > Has this ever been raised or requested?
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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From: just-a-minute@... [mailto:just-a-minute@...]On Behalf Of Espen Krømke
Sent: 03 October 2012 08:37
To: just-a-minute@...
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: Pre Merton BroadcastsYou know, it suddenly struck me: This is *exactly* like the fan discussion in the Elvis world, if the 50s or 70s period is the favourite. it's either/or. You got the die-hard 70s fans (I'm one of those) who can't stand the simple tunes and poor audio quality of the early recordings, and the 50s fans who can't stand the bloated, struggling Elvis of the 70s.
And in both cases the discussions will continue in both camps for as long as there are fans. :)
Den 03. okt. 2012 09:21, skrev Robert:
I am a big fan of the older shows. They were quality. Nowadays people interupt for the sake of it and hardly anyone speaks for a whole minute. I still like the show, but not a patch on the Derek Nimmo, Clement Freud, Sheila Hancock, Kenneth Williams and Peter Jones days. Paul Merton is good, but I don't want him on every show.Does anyone have some old shows to share please?Robert
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From: just-a-minute@... [mailto:just-a-minute@...]On Behalf Of Wayne Styles
Sent: 30 September 2012 12:49
To: just-a-minute@...
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: Pre Merton BroadcastsInteresting point, I like the older shows and listen regularly to them. Yes they are slower, but they do entertain and the regulars such as Peter Jones, Kenneth Williams and Clement Freud were funny in different ways. Some of the guests were just so bad at it as well, made it all the more funny, Aimee McDonald and Wendy Richard always make me giggle. If you get a chance do listen to these show to get an insight into how things have moved on as well.Kenneth was a really odd man in public and private and listening to him at times gave an insight into his state of mind.In a recent interview a producer "cant remember his name" said that he would lift his arms up to indicate to Kenneth to give the show a boost and off he would go, then lower his arms again to indicate to Kenneth to let the show calm down and that he was the only person who could do this.Dont get me wrong I like Paul on the show and he does give it his all most of the time, but I dont always get the laughs out of the show that the older ones provide.Each to his or her own I suppose.
From: kj.naughton <kj.naughton@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012, 12:17
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: Pre Merton BroadcastsI couldn't agree more. I am not a fan of the older shows at all.
I'm not sure why it is that I don't like the older shows. Perhaps it's to do with dated humour; perhaps it's to do with the format and dynamics of the show which have changed subtly over the decades; perhaps (and please don't take this the wrong way) it's because it's a panel of four people who have largely slipped from the public memory.
I'm sure there are lots of people who would love to hear the older shows. I certainly have no objection to them being re-broadcast. Just not at the expense of the newer shows.
I expect that the BBC will still own the UK broadcast rights for all JaM shows. One consideration may be that some of the older shows are available for purchase on CD and MP3 (I know some of the newer ones are too). Whether re-broadcasting the older shows would stimulate interest in the CDs and therefore boost their sales or people would record them and depress CD sales is a debatable point.
Cheers
kJ
--- In just-a-minute@..., "Espen Krømke" <espen.kromke@...> wrote:
>
> Well, if BBC think anything like me, my guess would be that they simply
> find the newer shows to be more fun to listen to. I know I do. The only
> reason why I keep pre-Merton shows in the JAMmer shoutcast
> (stream.beatradar.com) is because I know there are some who still
> appreciate those shows.
>
> In fact, I would not even have been a JAM fan today, had it not been for
> the era introduced with Merton.
>
>
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-----Original Message-----
From: just-a-minute@... [mailto:just-a-minute@...]On Behalf Of Don Judge
Sent: 03 October 2012 08:44
To: just-a-minute@...
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: Pre Merton BroadcastsRobertAa part of the Yahoo JAM Group you should have access to the links page. There you will find links to many series of JAM for download, both old and new.Login in to Yahoo > My Groups > just-a-minute > Links > "Just a Minute" Episode Download Links--CheersDon __o\ <,.....O/ Osent from my iPod TouchI am a big fan of the older shows. They were quality. Nowadays people interupt for the sake of it and hardly anyone speaks for a whole minute. I still like the show, but not a patch on the Derek Nimmo, Clement Freud, Sheila Hancock, Kenneth Williams and Peter Jones days. Paul Merton is good, but I don't want him on every show.Does anyone have some old shows to share please?Robert
-----Original Message-----
From: just-a-minute@... [mailto:just-a-minute@...]On Behalf Of Wayne Styles
Sent: 30 September 2012 12:49
To: just-a-minute@...
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: Pre Merton BroadcastsInteresting point, I like the older shows and listen regularly to them. Yes they are slower, but they do entertain and the regulars such as Peter Jones, Kenneth Williams and Clement Freud were funny in different ways. Some of the guests were just so bad at it as well, made it all the more funny, Aimee McDonald and Wendy Richard always make me giggle. If you get a chance do listen to these show to get an insight into how things have moved on as well.Kenneth was a really odd man in public and private and listening to him at times gave an insight into his state of mind.In a recent interview a producer "cant remember his name" said that he would lift his arms up to indicate to Kenneth to give the show a boost and off he would go, then lower his arms again to indicate to Kenneth to let the show calm down and that he was the only person who could do this.Dont get me wrong I like Paul on the show and he does give it his all most of the time, but I dont always get the laughs out of the show that the older ones provide.Each to his or her own I suppose.
From: kj.naughton <kj.naughton@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012, 12:17
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: Pre Merton BroadcastsI couldn't agree more. I am not a fan of the older shows at all.
I'm not sure why it is that I don't like the older shows. Perhaps it's to do with dated humour; perhaps it's to do with the format and dynamics of the show which have changed subtly over the decades; perhaps (and please don't take this the wrong way) it's because it's a panel of four people who have largely slipped from the public memory.
I'm sure there are lots of people who would love to hear the older shows. I certainly have no objection to them being re-broadcast. Just not at the expense of the newer shows.
I expect that the BBC will still own the UK broadcast rights for all JaM shows. One consideration may be that some of the older shows are available for purchase on CD and MP3 (I know some of the newer ones are too). Whether re-broadcasting the older shows would stimulate interest in the CDs and therefore boost their sales or people would record them and depress CD sales is a debatable point.
Cheers
kJ
--- In just-a-minute@..., "Espen Krømke" <espen.kromke@...> wrote:
>
> Well, if BBC think anything like me, my guess would be that they simply
> find the newer shows to be more fun to listen to. I know I do. The only
> reason why I keep pre-Merton shows in the JAMmer shoutcast
> (stream.beatradar.com) is because I know there are some who still
> appreciate those shows.
>
> In fact, I would not even have been a JAM fan today, had it not been for
> the era introduced with Merton.
>
>
>
> On 30. sep. 2012 04:14, Wayne Styles wrote:
> > Hi
> > It could be that they have sold the rights to other publishers for CDs
> > etc before they realised the income to be made or they still own the
> > rights and the sales from older broadcasts may be another income
> > stream. Dont know for sure, but its worth a guess.
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > *From:* mat_bagnall <mat_bagnall@...>
> > *To:* just-a! -minute@...
> > *Sent:* Sunday, 30 September 2012, 3:05
> > *Subject:* [just-a-minute] Pre Merton Broadcasts
> >
> > Is there a reason why the BBC dont broadcast old episodes before Paul
> > Merton joined. More often than not they will air episodes from the
> > 90's onwards eg when they rebroadcast shows at the launch of 4 extra
> > they were various ones from Series 32 onwards.
> > Surely listeners would enjoy a run featuring Williams, Jones, Nimmo &
> > Freud and its not as if the humour would be outdated - before some of
> > the 50's shows the announcer will warn listeners that the humour might
> > be slightly outdated.
> >
> > Has this ever been raised or requested?
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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> To: just-a-minute@...
> From: mat_bagnall@...
> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 17:15:01 +0000
> Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: Pre Merton Broadcasts
>
> Listened to the Jam Masterclass last night and Nocolas said the early shows werent deemed that great which they arent but the 70's are seen to be a golden era (not that ive heard them yet having only gotten to series 5).
>
> Certainly the show has changed, which is only natural, but even the Merton era episodes are rarely aired. Considering how many episodes there of those alone it seems an oversight to not broadcast them on Radio 4 Extra when it has such a following and is meant to be a gem of the BBC's archive.
>
>
> --- In just-a-minute@..., Wayne Styles <wayne.styles@...> wrote:
> >
> > Interesting point, I like the older shows and listen regularly to them. Yes they are slower, but they do entertain and the regulars such as Peter Jones, Kenneth Williams and Clement Freud were funny in different ways. Some of the guests were just so bad at it as well, made it all the more funny, Aimee McDonald and Wendy Richard always make me giggle. If you get a chance do listen to these show to get an insight into how things have moved on as well.
> > Kenneth was a really odd man in public and private and listening to him at times gave an insight into his state of mind.
> > In a recent interview a producer "cant remember his name" said that he would lift his arms up to indicate to Kenneth to give the show a boost and off he would go, then lower his arms again to indicate to Kenneth to let the show calm down and that he was the only person who could do this.
> > Dont get me wrong I like Paul on the show and he does give it his all most of the time, but I dont always get the laughs out of the show that the older ones provide.
> >
> > Each to his or her own I suppose.
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: kj.naughton <kj.naughton@...>
> > To: just-a-minute@...
> > Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012, 12:17
> > Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: Pre Merton Broadcasts
> >
> >
> >
> > I couldn't agree more. I am not a fan of the older shows at all.
> >
> > I'm not sure why it is that I don't like the older shows. Perhaps it's to do with dated humour; perhaps it's to do with the format and dynamics of the show which have changed subtly over the decades; perhaps (and please don't take this the wrong way) it's because it's a panel of four people who have largely slipped from the public memory.
> >
> > I'm sure there are lots of people who would love to hear the older shows. I certainly have no objection to them being re-broadcast. Just not at the expense of the newer shows.
> >
> > I expect that the BBC will still own the UK broadcast rights for all JaM shows. One consideration may be that some of the older shows are available for purchase on CD and MP3 (I know some of the newer ones are too). Whether re-broadcasting the older shows would stimulate interest in the CDs and therefore boost their sales or people would record them and depress CD sales is a debatable point.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > kJ
> >
> > --- In just-a-minute@..., "Espen Krømke" <espen.kromke@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, if BBC think anything like me, my guess would be that they simply
> > > find the newer shows to be more fun to listen to. I know I do. The only
> > > reason why I keep pre-Merton shows in the JAMmer shoutcast
> > > (stream.beatradar.com) is because I know there are some who still
> > > appreciate those shows.
> > >
> > > In fact, I would not even have been a JAM fan today, had it not been for
> > > the era introduced with Merton.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 30. sep. 2012 04:14, Wayne Styles wrote:
> > > > Hi
> > > > It could be that they have sold the rights to other publishers for CDs
> > > > etc before they realised the income to be made or they still own the
> > > > rights and the sales from older broadcasts may be another income
> > > > stream. Dont know for sure, but its worth a guess.
> > > >
> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > > > *From:* mat_bagnall <mat_bagnall@>
> > > > *To:* just-a! -minute@...
> > > > *Sent:* Sunday, 30 September 2012, 3:05
> > > > *Subject:* [just-a-minute] Pre Merton Broadcasts
> > > >
> > > > Is there a reason why the BBC dont broadcast old episodes before Paul
> > > > Merton joined. More often than not they will air episodes from the
> > > > 90's onwards eg when they rebroadcast shows at the launch of 4 extra
> > > > they were various ones from Series 32 onwards.
> > > > Surely listeners would enjoy a run featuring Williams, Jones, Nimmo &
> > > > Freud and its not as if the humour would be outdated - before some of
> > > > the 50's shows the announcer will warn listeners that the humour might
> > > > be slightly outdated.
> > > >
> > > > Has this ever been raised or requested?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
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