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Topic: BBC Amnesty

Message 1 / 11
charles_rookeOct 9, 2012
 
 
Can't say I'm keen on the sentence which reads: "The BBC buildings taking part in the amnesty are ..". I resent the use of the word "amnesty" - I don't consider that I need an officious "pardon" for having recorded dramas in the 60s and 70s which the BBC have subsequently lost. And implying that I do is not the way to encourage me to give them anything.

Charlie



--- In just-a-minute@..., "Simon B Kelly" <simonbkelly@...> wrote:
>
> BBC Radio have also announced plans for their new Listeners' Archive which may bring in a few more "missing" episodes:
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2012/the-listeners-archive-needs-you.html
>
> :-)
>
> Simon
>
>

 
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Topic: Re: BBC Amnesty

Message 2 / 11
Simon B KellyOct 9, 2012
 
 
It does seem an inappropriate word to use - I would have preferred "collection" or "preservation".

If anything the BBC should be seeking an official pardon for throwing away and wiping so many valuable tapes in the first place!

Simon


--- In just-a-minute@..., "charles_rooke" <charles_rooke@...> wrote:
>
> Can't say I'm keen on the sentence which reads: "The BBC buildings taking part in the amnesty are ..". I resent the use of the word "amnesty" - I don't consider that I need an officious "pardon" for having recorded dramas in the 60s and 70s which the BBC have subsequently lost. And implying that I do is not the way to encourage me to give them anything.
>
> Charlie
>
>
>
> --- In just-a-minute@..., "Simon B Kelly" <simonbkelly@> wrote:
> >
> > BBC Radio have also announced plans for their new Listeners' Archive which may bring in a few more "missing" episodes:
> >
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2012/the-listeners-archive-needs-you.html
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > Simon
> >
> >
>

 
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Topic: Re: BBC Amnesty

Message 3 / 11
Steve KenrickOct 9, 2012
 
 
It's all to do with the modern use of the word amnesty, which I take to mean the voluntary donation of goods, held legally or otherwise, to a central collection point.

Why we couldn't have found another word for this exercise is beyond me. 

To: just-a-minute@...
From: charles_rooke@...
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 10:23:37 +0000
Subject: [just-a-minute] BBC Amnesty

 
Can't say I'm keen on the sentence which reads: "The BBC buildings taking part in the amnesty are ..". I resent the use of the word "amnesty" - I don't consider that I need an officious "pardon" for having recorded dramas in the 60s and 70s which the BBC have subsequently lost. And implying that I do is not the way to encourage me to give them anything.

Charlie

--- In just-a-minute@..., "Simon B Kelly" <simonbkelly@...> wrote:
>
> BBC Radio have also announced plans for their new Listeners' Archive which may bring in a few more "missing" episodes:
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2012/the-listeners-archive-needs-you.html
>
> :-)
>
> Simon
>
>



 
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Topic: Re: BBC Amnesty

Message 4 / 11
badger danceOct 9, 2012
 
 
You will give your copies to The BBC they will take your content, process it and package it for broadcast/iPlayer etc.

This content WILL then become a commodity for sale by BBC Worldwide Enterprises Ltd.who WILL seek to protect THEIR copyright by stopping those that freely share it via P2P/file sharing etc.

Amnesties are periods of time when penalties are withheld - amnesties come to an end. (But the BBC will have your details)

 
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Topic: Re: BBC Amnesty

Message 5 / 11
Wayne StylesOct 9, 2012
 
 
Badger
TO be fair to the BBC, they still own the rights to the broadcasts. I know they may have lost the originals etc, but the individual does not own the rights either. Yes, I agree that they will sell the end products and prevent others from using where and when they can. But to be fair its their right to do so.  The BBC seem to forget that without people like Bob Monkhouse and the avid collectors (like the current group) are part of the millions that support the BBC in many ways.
It could be argued that we as a public own the rights to all BBC broadcasts and should be able to do with what we wish. We did HAVE to pay the licence fees without exception and threats of prosecution if we didnt.

From: badger dance <badger_dance@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Tuesday, 9 October 2012, 18:03
Subject: RE: [just-a-minute] BBC Amnesty

 
You will give your copies to The BBC they will take your content, process it and package it for broadcast/iPlayer etc.

This content WILL then become a commodity for sale by BBC Worldwide Enterprises Ltd.who WILL seek to protect THEIR copyright by stopping those that freely share it via P2P/file sharing etc.

Amnesties are periods of time when penalties are withheld - amnesties come to an end. (But the BBC will have your details)



 
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Topic: Re: BBC Amnesty

Message 6 / 11
Steve KenrickOct 9, 2012
 
 

< It could be argued that we as a public own the rights to all BBC broadcasts and should be able to do with what we wish. We did HAVE to pay the < < < licence fees without exception and threats of prosecution if we didnt.

Would anybody use the same argument for SKY programmes, assuming that they have paid the asking rate to watch the programmes?

Nobody made anybody pay the license fee. All could have chosen not to watch BBC tv.

To: just-a-minute@...
From: wayne.styles@...
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 18:25:39 +0100
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] BBC Amnesty

 

Badger
TO be fair to the BBC, they still own the rights to the broadcasts. I know they may have lost the originals etc, but the individual does not own the rights either. Yes, I agree that they will sell the end products and prevent others from using where and when they can. But to be fair its their right to do so.  The BBC seem to forget that without people like Bob Monkhouse and the avid collectors (like the current group) are part of the millions that support the BBC in many ways.
It could be argued that we as a public own the rights to all BBC broadcasts and should be able to do with what we wish. We did HAVE to pay the licence fees without exception and threats of prosecution if we didnt.

From: badger dance <badger_dance@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Tuesday, 9 October 2012, 18:03
Subject: RE: [just-a-minute] BBC Amnesty

 
You will give your copies to The BBC they will take your content, process it and package it for broadcast/iPlayer etc.

This content WILL then become a commodity for sale by BBC Worldwide Enterprises Ltd.who WILL seek to protect THEIR copyright by stopping those that freely share it via P2P/file sharing etc.

Amnesties are periods of time when penalties are withheld - amnesties come to an end. (But the BBC will have your details)




 
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Topic: Re: BBC Amnesty

Message 7 / 11
Wayne StylesOct 9, 2012
 
 
sorry wrong. You cannot opt out of the licence fee. Unless you have no tv or radio at all. Sky is totally optional.


Sent from my iPhone
Regards & best wishes


On 9 Oct 2012, at 20:08, Steve Kenrick <steve.kenrick@...> wrote:

 


< It could be argued that we as a public own the rights to all BBC broadcasts and should be able to do with what we wish. We did HAVE to pay the < < < licence fees without exception and threats of prosecution if we didnt.

Would anybody use the same argument for SKY programmes, assuming that they have paid the asking rate to watch the programmes?

Nobody made anybody pay the license fee. All could have chosen not to watch BBC tv.

To: just-a-minute@...
From: wayne.styles@...
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 18:25:39 +0100
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] BBC Amnesty

 

Badger
TO be fair to the BBC, they still own the rights to the broadcasts. I know they may have lost the originals etc, but the individual does not own the rights either. Yes, I agree that they will sell the end products and prevent others from using where and when they can. But to be fair its their right to do so.  The BBC seem to forget that without people like Bob Monkhouse and the avid collectors (like the current group) are part of the millions that support the BBC in many ways.
It could be argued that we as a public own the rights to all BBC broadcasts and should be able to do with what we wish. We did HAVE to pay the licence fees without exception and threats of prosecution if we didnt.

From: badger dance <badger_dance@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Tuesday, 9 October 2012, 18:03
Subject: RE: [just-a-minute] BBC Amnesty

 
You will give your copies to The BBC they will take your content, process it and package it for broadcast/iPlayer etc.

This content WILL then become a commodity for sale by BBC Worldwide Enterprises Ltd.who WILL seek to protect THEIR copyright by stopping those that freely share it via P2P/file sharing etc.

Amnesties are periods of time when penalties are withheld - amnesties come to an end. (But the BBC will have your details)




 
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Topic: Re: BBC Amnesty

Message 8 / 11
Steve KenrickOct 9, 2012
 
 
You only need a license if you watch tv as it is being broadcast on conventional tv.
 
You can listen to as much radio as you like without a license fee, (thanks to all the license fee payers of course).

To: just-a-minute@...
From: wayne.styles@...
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 21:16:12 +0100
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] BBC Amnesty

 

sorry wrong. You cannot opt out of the licence fee. Unless you have no tv or radio at all. Sky is totally optional.


Sent from my iPhone
Regards & best wishes


On 9 Oct 2012, at 20:08, Steve Kenrick <steve.kenrick@...> wrote:

 


< It could be argued that we as a public own the rights to all BBC broadcasts and should be able to do with what we wish. We did HAVE to pay the < < < licence fees without exception and threats of prosecution if we didnt.

Would anybody use the same argument for SKY programmes, assuming that they have paid the asking rate to watch the programmes?

Nobody made anybody pay the license fee. All could have chosen not to watch BBC tv.

To: just-a-minute@...
From: wayne.styles@...
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 18:25:39 +0100
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] BBC Amnesty

 

Badger
TO be fair to the BBC, they still own the rights to the broadcasts. I know they may have lost the originals etc, but the individual does not own the rights either. Yes, I agree that they will sell the end products and prevent others from using where and when they can. But to be fair its their right to do so.  The BBC seem to forget that without people like Bob Monkhouse and the avid collectors (like the current group) are part of the millions that support the BBC in many ways.
It could be argued that we as a public own the rights to all BBC broadcasts and should be able to do with what we wish. We did HAVE to pay the licence fees without exception and threats of prosecution if we didnt.

From: badger dance <badger_dance@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Tuesday, 9 October 2012, 18:03
Subject: RE: [just-a-minute] BBC Amnesty

 
You will give your copies to The BBC they will take your content, process it and package it for broadcast/iPlayer etc.

This content WILL then become a commodity for sale by BBC Worldwide Enterprises Ltd.who WILL seek to protect THEIR copyright by stopping those that freely share it via P2P/file sharing etc.

Amnesties are periods of time when penalties are withheld - amnesties come to an end. (But the BBC will have your details)






 
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Topic: Re: BBC Amnesty

Message 9 / 11
Wayne StylesOct 9, 2012
 
 
Yes you dont need one for a radio, unless during war time it seems.  However, with the introduction of Sky and DVDs etc, you can inform the BBC that you will and do not watch or record live TV and only use the equipment for pre-recorded media and digital radio it also seems.  However, threats of prosecution seem to be common if this request is made to the BBC with reports of "visits" being made. Just like having Auntie Visit :)

From: Steve Kenrick <steve.kenrick@...>
To: "just-a-minute@..." <just-a-minute@...>
Sent: Tuesday, 9 October 2012, 21:25
Subject: RE: [just-a-minute] BBC Amnesty

 
You only need a license if you watch tv as it is being broadcast on conventional tv.
 
You can listen to as much radio as you like without a license fee, (thanks to all the license fee payers of course).

To: just-a-minute@...
From: wayne.styles@...
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 21:16:12 +0100
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] BBC Amnesty

 

sorry wrong. You cannot opt out of the licence fee. Unless you have no tv or radio at all. Sky is totally optional.


Sent from my iPhone
Regards & best wishes


On 9 Oct 2012, at 20:08, Steve Kenrick <steve.kenrick@...> wrote:

 


< It could be argued that we as a public own the rights to all BBC broadcasts and should be able to do with what we wish. We did HAVE to pay the < < < licence fees without exception and threats of prosecution if we didnt.

Would anybody use the same argument for SKY programmes, assuming that they have paid the asking rate to watch the programmes?

Nobody made anybody pay the license fee. All could have chosen not to watch BBC tv.

To: just-a-minute@...
From: wayne.styles@...
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 18:25:39 +0100
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] BBC Amnesty

 

Badger
TO be fair to the BBC, they still own the rights to the broadcasts. I know they may have lost the originals etc, but the individual does not own the rights either. Yes, I agree that they will sell the end products and prevent others from using where and when they can. But to be fair its their right to do so.  The BBC seem to forget that without people like Bob Monkhouse and the avid collectors (like the current group) are part of the millions that support the BBC in many ways.
It could be argued that we as a public own the rights to all BBC broadcasts and should be able to do with what we wish. We did HAVE to pay the licence fees without exception and threats of prosecution if we didnt.

From: badger dance <badger_dance@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Tuesday, 9 October 2012, 18:03
Subject: RE: [just-a-minute] BBC Amnesty

 
You will give your copies to The BBC they will take your content, process it and package it for broadcast/iPlayer etc.

This content WILL then become a commodity for sale by BBC Worldwide Enterprises Ltd.who WILL seek to protect THEIR copyright by stopping those that freely share it via P2P/file sharing etc.

Amnesties are periods of time when penalties are withheld - amnesties come to an end. (But the BBC will have your details)








 
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Topic: Re: BBC Amnesty

Message 10 / 11
Don JudgeOct 9, 2012
 
 
From the TV Licensing website...

"You need a valid TV Licence if you use TV receiving equipment to watch or record television programmes as they’re being shown on TV. ‘TV receiving equipment’ means any equipment which is used to watch or record television programmes as they're being shown on TV. This includes a TV, computer, mobile phone, games console, digital box, DVD/VHS recorder or any other device."
 
--
Cheers

Don   __o
      \<,
.....O/ O



From: Steve Kenrick <steve.kenrick@...>
To: "just-a-minute@..." <just-a-minute@...>
Sent: Tuesday, 9 October 2012, 21:25
Subject: RE: [just-a-minute] BBC Amnesty



You only need a license if you watch tv as it is being broadcast on conventional tv.
 
You can listen to as much radio as you like without a license fee, (thanks to all the license fee payers of course).

To: just-a-minute@...
From: wayne.styles@...
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 21:16:12 +0100
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] BBC Amnesty

 

sorry wrong. You cannot opt out of the licence fee. Unless you have no tv or radio at all. Sky is totally optional.


Sent from my iPhone
Regards & best wishes


On 9 Oct 2012, at 20:08, Steve Kenrick <steve.kenrick@...> wrote:

 


< It could be argued that we as a public own the rights to all BBC broadcasts and should be able to do with what we wish. We did HAVE to pay the < < < licence fees without exception and threats of prosecution if we didnt.

Would anybody use the same argument for SKY programmes, assuming that they have paid the asking rate to watch the programmes?

Nobody made anybody pay the license fee. All could have chosen not to watch BBC tv.

To: just-a-minute@...
From: wayne.styles@...
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 18:25:39 +0100
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] BBC Amnesty

 

Badger
TO be fair to the BBC, they still own the rights to the broadcasts. I know they may have lost the originals etc, but the individual does not own the rights either. Yes, I agree that they will sell the end products and prevent others from using where and when they can. But to be fair its their right to do so.  The BBC seem to forget that without people like Bob Monkhouse and the avid collectors (like the current group) are part of the millions that support the BBC in many ways.
It could be argued that we as a public own the rights to all BBC broadcasts and should be able to do with what we wish. We did HAVE to pay the licence fees without exception and threats of prosecution if we didnt.

From: badger dance <badger_dance@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Tuesday, 9 October 2012, 18:03
Subject: RE: [just-a-minute] BBC Amnesty

 
You will give your copies to The BBC they will take your content, process it and package it for broadcast/iPlayer etc.

This content WILL then become a commodity for sale by BBC Worldwide Enterprises Ltd.who WILL seek to protect THEIR copyright by stopping those that freely share it via P2P/file sharing etc.

Amnesties are periods of time when penalties are withheld - amnesties come to an end. (But the BBC will have your details)










 
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Topic: Re: BBC Amnesty

Message 11 / 11
Wayne StylesOct 9, 2012
 
 
Hi Don
You missed a bit
The law states that you need to be covered by a TV Licence if you watch or record television programmes, on any device, as they're being shown on TV. This includes TVs, computers, mobile phones, games consoles, digital boxes and Blu-ray/DVD/VHS recorders.
You don't need a licence if you don't use any of these devices to watch or record television programmes as they're being shown on TV - for example, if you use your TV only to watch DVDs or play video games, or you only watch ‘catch up’ services like BBC iPlayer or 4oD.

From: Don Judge <don@...>
To: "just-a-minute@..." <just-a-minute@...>
Sent: Tuesday, 9 October 2012, 22:41
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] BBC Amnesty

 
From the TV Licensing website...

"You need a valid TV Licence if you use TV receiving equipment to watch or record television programmes as they’re being shown on TV. ‘TV receiving equipment’ means any equipment which is used to watch or record television programmes as they're being shown on TV. This includes a TV, computer, mobile phone, games console, digital box, DVD/VHS recorder or any other device."
 
--
Cheers

Don   __o
      \<,
.....O/ O



From: Steve Kenrick <steve.kenrick@...>
To: "just-a-minute@..." <just-a-minute@...>
Sent: Tuesday, 9 October 2012, 21:25
Subject: RE: [just-a-minute] BBC Amnesty



You only need a license if you watch tv as it is being broadcast on conventional tv.
 
You can listen to as much radio as you like without a license fee, (thanks to all the license fee payers of course).

To: just-a-minute@...
From: wayne.styles@...
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 21:16:12 +0100
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] BBC Amnesty

 

sorry wrong. You cannot opt out of the licence fee. Unless you have no tv or radio at all. Sky is totally optional.


Sent from my iPhone
Regards & best wishes


On 9 Oct 2012, at 20:08, Steve Kenrick <steve.kenrick@...> wrote:

 


< It could be argued that we as a public own the rights to all BBC broadcasts and should be able to do with what we wish. We did HAVE to pay the < < < licence fees without exception and threats of prosecution if we didnt.

Would anybody use the same argument for SKY programmes, assuming that they have paid the asking rate to watch the programmes?

Nobody made anybody pay the license fee. All could have chosen not to watch BBC tv.

To: just-a-minute@...
From: wayne.styles@...
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 18:25:39 +0100
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] BBC Amnesty

 

Badger
TO be fair to the BBC, they still own the rights to the broadcasts. I know they may have lost the originals etc, but the individual does not own the rights either. Yes, I agree that they will sell the end products and prevent others from using where and when they can. But to be fair its their right to do so.  The BBC seem to forget that without people like Bob Monkhouse and the avid collectors (like the current group) are part of the millions that support the BBC in many ways.
It could be argued that we as a public own the rights to all BBC broadcasts and should be able to do with what we wish. We did HAVE to pay the licence fees without exception and threats of prosecution if we didnt.

From: badger dance <badger_dance@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Tuesday, 9 October 2012, 18:03
Subject: RE: [just-a-minute] BBC Amnesty

 
You will give your copies to The BBC they will take your content, process it and package it for broadcast/iPlayer etc.

This content WILL then become a commodity for sale by BBC Worldwide Enterprises Ltd.who WILL seek to protect THEIR copyright by stopping those that freely share it via P2P/file sharing etc.

Amnesties are periods of time when penalties are withheld - amnesties come to an end. (But the BBC will have your details)












 
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