Just A Minute

--- In just-a-minute@..., Don Judge <don@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Happy New Year C
>
> As far as I'm aware the 'longest lasting' file sharing site is MediaFire, especially if you upload the files as zip archives. Zip files are not checked for copyright violation either.
>
> Of course, things may well have changed since we* came to those conclusions some time ago.
>
>
> The other alternative is to pay for the service; if you pay for file hosting the files /never/ expire. They may still get checked for copyright violation on some sites.
>
> There are other options such as Microsoft SkyDrive, Google Picasa Web, Apple The Cloud etc but if you don't have an account yourself you can usually only view or listen to files deposited as opposed to downloading them to your PC.
>
> * Can't remember if 'we' is this Yahoo group or one of the others I'm in.
>
> Broken links now deleted.
>  
> --
> Cheers
>
> Don   __o
>       \<,
> .....O/ O
>
>
>
>
>
> >________________________________
> > From: Cymro <cymro.gwirion@...>
> >To: just-a-minute@...
> >Sent: Tuesday, 1 January 2013, 18:14
> >Subject: [just-a-minute] Using Dropbox as a share resource + Old News Quiz Episodes please!(Don possibly)
> >
> >Hi All,
> >Happy New Year All!
> >
> >A few years ago I uploaded all my available clue episodes up to mediashare only to see them disappear after time. Since then I have my whole collection of JAM and Clue on Dropbox. I don't have much knowledge of these sort of things - but is there any reason why Dropbox can't be used to share links? It seems that it would be there for longer than my old Mediashare effort lasted? I note that it is not used by any experienced sharers - just interested why not?!
> >
> >Also as a follow up to the previous comment and what prompted me really  - I note that Don's News Quiz archive is now dead in the Links section. Does anyone or perhaps has Don a new location for the archive? Thanks again!
> >
> >C
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------------
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
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--- In just-a-minute@..., Wayne Styles <wayne.styles@...> wrote:
>
> Hi
> Yes you can make a folder public on drop box or just invite certain people A few gig free and as you invite you get more free space. Its difficult as their are so many files, it might be worth popping them on an 8.4Gb DVD and sending it to each other so we all are at the same point? I don't mind doing this if I had a definitive list and archive to work with.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Cymro <cymro.gwirion@...>
> To: just-a-minute@...
> Sent: Tuesday, 1 January 2013, 19:16
> Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: Using Dropbox as a share resource + Old News Quiz Episodes please!(Don possibly)
>
>  
>
> Thanks Don,
> That does explain it. I wish I had known about the zip folder 'trick' before I uploaded!
> I am a paid Dropbox user, and recently I believe they have changed things to allow non dropbox users to receive files. I could therefore I suppose supply Clue episodes to any that want them!
>
> I don't suppose you have moved your News Quiz archive anywhere have you - does it exist online these days?! It was whilst trying to download your archive that I felt prompted to write!
>
> Anyway - Thanks Don
>
> C.
>
> --- In mailto:just-a-minute%40yahoogroups.com, Don Judge <don@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Happy New Year C
> >
> > As far as I'm aware the 'longest lasting' file sharing site is MediaFire, especially if you upload the files as zip archives. Zip files are not checked for copyright violation either.
> >
> > Of course, things may well have changed since we* came to those conclusions some time ago.
> >
> >
> > The other alternative is to pay for the service; if you pay for file hosting the files /never/ expire. They may still get checked for copyright violation on some sites.
> >
> > There are other options such as Microsoft SkyDrive, Google Picasa Web, Apple The Cloud etc but if you don't have an account yourself you can usually only view or listen to files deposited as opposed to downloading them to your PC.
> >
> > * Can't remember if 'we' is this Yahoo group or one of the others I'm in.
> >
> > Broken links now deleted.
> >  
> > --
> > Cheers
> >
> > Don   __o
> >       \<,
> > .....O/ O
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >________________________________
> > > From: Cymro <cymro.gwirion@>
> > >To: mailto:just-a-minute%40yahoogroups.com
> > >Sent: Tuesday, 1 January 2013, 18:14
> > >Subject: [just-a-minute] Using Dropbox as a share resource + Old News Quiz Episodes please!(Don possibly)
> > >
> > >Hi All,
> > >Happy New Year All!
> > >
> > >A few years ago I uploaded all my available clue episodes up to mediashare only to see them disappear after time. Since then I have my whole collection of JAM and Clue on Dropbox. I don't have much knowledge of these sort of things - but is there any reason why Dropbox can't be used to share links? It seems that it would be there for longer than my old Mediashare effort lasted? I note that it is not used by any experienced sharers - just interested why not?!
> > >
> > >Also as a follow up to the previous comment and what prompted me really  - I note that Don's News Quiz archive is now dead in the Links section. Does anyone or perhaps has Don a new location for the archive? Thanks again!
> > >
> > >C
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >------------------------------------
> > >
> > >Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

--- In just-a-minute@..., Wayne Styles <wayne.styles@...> wrote:
>
> Hi More than happy to help out. Let me know and I will jump into action :)
>  
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Cymro <cymro.gwirion@...>
> To: just-a-minute@...
> Sent: Tuesday, 1 January 2013, 23:28
> Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: Using Dropbox as a share resource + Old News Quiz Episodes please!(Don possibly)
>
>  
>
> Yes I suppose that the DVD would be an easy option! I am not sure of the state of Clue on the links page - but I do have I believe as complete a collection as possible - and would like to make it all available. I would gladly make a DVD or share my dropbox folder. I need to check a few things on dropbox - possibly I could invite you Wayne as a trial and reassure myself of a few things and see if it works!
>
> --- In mailto:just-a-minute%40yahoogroups.com, Wayne Styles <wayne.styles@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> > Yes you can make a folder public on drop box or just invite certain people A few gig free and as you invite you get more free space. Its difficult as their are so many files, it might be worth popping them on an 8.4Gb DVD and sending it to each other so we all are at the same point? I don't mind doing this if I had a definitive list and archive to work with.
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Cymro <cymro.gwirion@>
> > To: mailto:just-a-minute%40yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, 1 January 2013, 19:16
> > Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: Using Dropbox as a share resource + Old News Quiz Episodes please!(Don possibly)
> >
> >  
> >
> > Thanks Don,
> > That does explain it. I wish I had known about the zip folder 'trick' before I uploaded!
> > I am a paid Dropbox user, and recently I believe they have changed things to allow non dropbox users to receive files. I could therefore I suppose supply Clue episodes to any that want them!
> >
> > I don't suppose you have moved your News Quiz archive anywhere have you - does it exist online these days?! It was whilst trying to download your archive that I felt prompted to write!
> >
> > Anyway - Thanks Don
> >
> > C.
> >
> > --- In mailto:just-a-minute%40yahoogroups.com, Don Judge <don@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Happy New Year C
> > >
> > > As far as I'm aware the 'longest lasting' file sharing site is MediaFire, especially if you upload the files as zip archives. Zip files are not checked for copyright violation either.
> > >
> > > Of course, things may well have changed since we* came to those conclusions some time ago.
> > >
> > >
> > > The other alternative is to pay for the service; if you pay for file hosting the files /never/ expire. They may still get checked for copyright violation on some sites.
> > >
> > > There are other options such as Microsoft SkyDrive, Google Picasa Web, Apple The Cloud etc but if you don't have an account yourself you can usually only view or listen to files deposited as opposed to downloading them to your PC.
> > >
> > > * Can't remember if 'we' is this Yahoo group or one of the others I'm in.
> > >
> > > Broken links now deleted.
> > >  
> > > --
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Don   __o
> > >       \<,
> > > .....O/ O
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >________________________________
> > > > From: Cymro <cymro.gwirion@>
> > > >To: mailto:just-a-minute%40yahoogroups.com
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, 1 January 2013, 18:14
> > > >Subject: [just-a-minute] Using Dropbox as a share resource + Old News Quiz Episodes please!(Don possibly)
> > > >
> > > >Hi All,
> > > >Happy New Year All!
> > > >
> > > >A few years ago I uploaded all my available clue episodes up to mediashare only to see them disappear after time. Since then I have my whole collection of JAM and Clue on Dropbox. I don't have much knowledge of these sort of things - but is there any reason why Dropbox can't be used to share links? It seems that it would be there for longer than my old Mediashare effort lasted? I note that it is not used by any experienced sharers - just interested why not?!
> > > >
> > > >Also as a follow up to the previous comment and what prompted me really  - I note that Don's News Quiz archive is now dead in the Links section. Does anyone or perhaps has Don a new location for the archive? Thanks again!
> > > >
> > > >C
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > >Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

--- In just-a-minute@..., Don Judge <don@...> wrote:
>
> 8.4GB DVD ?
>
> My ISIHAC archive (series 1-58) is 25GB
>
> My News Quiz archive (series 23-79) is 11GB
>
> OK so they're unsorted at the moment but I doubt if the size will be reduced by THAT much when sorted.
>  
> --
> Cheers
>
> Don   __o
>       \<,
> .....O/ O
>
>
>
>
>
> >________________________________
> > From: Wayne Styles <wayne.styles@...>
> >To: "just-a-minute@..." <just-a-minute@...>
> >Sent: Tuesday, 1 January 2013, 22:39
> >Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: Using Dropbox as a share resource + Old News Quiz Episodes please!(Don possibly)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Hi
> >Yes you can make a folder public on drop box or just invite certain people A few gig free and as you invite you get more free space. Its difficult as their are so many files, it might be worth popping them on an 8.4Gb DVD and sending it to each other so we all are at the same point? I don't mind doing this if I had a definitive list and archive to work with.
> >
> >
>

--- In just-a-minute@..., nylon <sirnylon@...> wrote:
>
> Or get your own domain. For as little as a couple of dollars a week you get
> huge amounts of storage and unlimited bandwidth... and no-one plays (C)
> police.
>
> Mark
> nylon.net
>
>
> On 2 January 2013 05:42, Don Judge <don@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> >
> > Happy New Year C
> >
> > As far as I'm aware the 'longest lasting' file sharing site is MediaFire,
> > especially if you upload the files as zip archives. Zip files are not
> > checked for copyright violation either.
> >
> > Of course, things may well have changed since we* came to those
> > conclusions some time ago.
> >
> > The other alternative is to pay for the service; if you pay for file
> > hosting the files /never/ expire. They may still get checked for copyright
> > violation on some sites.
> >
> > There are other options such as Microsoft SkyDrive, Google Picasa Web,
> > Apple The Cloud etc but if you don't have an account yourself you can
> > usually only view or listen to files deposited as opposed to downloading
> > them to your PC.
> >
> > * Can't remember if 'we' is this Yahoo group or one of the others I'm in.
> >
> > Broken links now deleted.
> >
> > --
> > Cheers
> >
> > Don __o
> > \<,
> > .....O/ O
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* Cymro <cymro.gwirion@...>
> > *To:* just-a-minute@...
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, 1 January 2013, 18:14
> > *Subject:* [just-a-minute] Using Dropbox as a share resource + Old News
> > Quiz Episodes please!(Don possibly)
> >
> > Hi All,
> > Happy New Year All!
> >
> > A few years ago I uploaded all my available clue episodes up to mediashare
> > only to see them disappear after time. Since then I have my whole
> > collection of JAM and Clue on Dropbox. I don't have much knowledge of these
> > sort of things - but is there any reason why Dropbox can't be used to share
> > links? It seems that it would be there for longer than my old Mediashare
> > effort lasted? I note that it is not used by any experienced sharers - just
> > interested why not?!
> >
> > Also as a follow up to the previous comment and what prompted me really -
> > I note that Don's News Quiz archive is now dead in the Links section. Does
> > anyone or perhaps has Don a new location for the archive? Thanks again!
> >
> > C
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> Mark
> mark@...
> http://nylon.net
>

 

I must admit: the 13.56G includes 4.64G of FLAC (lossless compression) episode versions.

So my Clue Girth deflates to about 9G.  (Where's my fluffer?)

[But my 9G is still bigger than Cymro's. Hehehehehe!]

<greybeard>

Sigh. 

9,000 megabytes of radio comedy - for just ONE show? 

My complete radio archive is 114G.

My first computer had 4K RAM and a cassette tape for storage.

</greybeard>

On 2 January 2013 12:25, nylon <mark@...> wrote:

Mine is 13.56G... but the ladies say that size of your clue isn't everything  

:-(

On 2 January 2013 11:18, Cymro <cymro.gwirion@...> wrote:

 

25gb? Wow - what quality episodes do you have Don? My 'complete' clue is around 7.5gb. Most of the latter episodes are around 25mb each - whilst a lot of the early ones are only 7-8mb each. There are 429 episodes - I have around 420 x 20mb (average) is roughly 8Gb if my maths is correct. Do you have good quality episodes? I would be very grateful if you could share these Don! I thought I had as complete and best quality Clue episodes as I could find.

C.

--- In just-a-minute@..., Don Judge <don@...> wrote:
>
> 8.4GB DVD ?
>
> My ISIHAC archive (series 1-58) is 25GB
>
> My News Quiz archive (series 23-79) is 11GB
>
> OK so they're unsorted at the moment but I doubt if the size will be reduced by THAT much when sorted.
>  
> --
> Cheers
>
> Don   __o
>       \<,
> .....O/ O
>
>
>
>
>
> >________________________________
> > From: Wayne Styles <wayne.styles@...>
> >To: "just-a-minute@..." <just-a-minute@...>
> >Sent: Tuesday, 1 January 2013, 22:39
> >Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: Using Dropbox as a share resource + Old News Quiz Episodes please!(Don possibly)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Hi
> >Yes you can make a folder public on drop box or just invite certain people A few gig free and as you invite you get more free space. Its difficult as their are so many files, it might be worth popping them on an 8.4Gb DVD and sending it to each other so we all are at the same point? I don't mind doing this if I had a definitive list and archive to work with.
> >
> >
>

--

Mark

mark@...

http://nylon.net

--

Mark

mark@...

http://nylon.net

--- In just-a-minute@..., Cymro Gwirion <cymro.gwirion@...> wrote:
>
> One thing about Dropbox though - seeing as both Wayne and I were users - my clue collection of 7.5 gb transferred over to him in about 10 seconds apparently!!
>

On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 5:39 AM, Don Judge <don@...> wrote:

Agree with kJ there.
To transfer 7.5GB in 10 seconds would require 6Gb/s of bandwidth assuming my calculation is correct.  Wowser! - we can only wish.

Back to my archives...

A 6MB 30 minute mp3 audio file will sound rubbish.

A 25MB 30 minute mp3 audio file may sound good, but it's not guaranteed.

However, size isn't everything, there are many other factors involved.

A 6MB file can be upscaled to a higher bit rate to give 25MB but it won't sound any better.

To get good audio quality from mp3 encoded speech you need at least 96kb/s IMHO.
I go for (at least) 128kb/s if I have a choice.

I have not listened to all the episodes so I cannot say whether my files are all good quality or not but I can say none of the ones I glanced at last night were low bit rate.

--
Cheers

Don   __o
      \<,
.....O/ O

---

From: kj.naughton <kj.naughton@...>
To: just-a-minute@...
Sent: Wednesday, 2 January 2013, 9:36

Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: Using Dropbox as a share resource + Old News Quiz Episodes please!(Don possibly)

Hello Cymro

It's unlikely that 7.5Gb transferred in 10 seconds.  More likely is that the names of the files transferred in 10 seconds with the content of the files dribbling down over the next few hours or days.

The only thing I'd say about commercial hosting is that you need to choose carefully.  Not only do you want a company that's going to be around for a while but you need to check exactly what you're allowed to store.  A lot of hosting companies insist you host websites and not a loose collection of individual files.  Until fairly recently I had backups of various household files stored with one such hosting company - they decided they weren't a website (which they weren't) and deleted them.  So the lesson - read the T&Cs *very* carefully.

Cheers

kJ

--- In just-a-minute@..., Cymro Gwirion <cymro.gwirion@...> wrote:
>
>  One thing about Dropbox though - seeing as both Wayne and I were users - my clue collection of 7.5 gb transferred over to him in about 10 seconds apparently!!
>




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