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Topic: ABC schedule change

Message 1 / 5
Jeremy KeensJan 8, 2013

Just out of interest, how many of you who are going to complain listened to JAM on the ABC? The service isn't designed as a source for better recordings for fans, but as a service to listeners (primarily in Australia, but also now through the net). I know my partner who often uses radio national to help her through insomnia dreads waking at near to 5 as the comedies don't interest her. My sister, however, wakes up to listen to them.

And maybe some people are getting tires of all the old JAMs: the 'fab' four were excellent but each of their styles can be grating (I never really warmed to Derek Nimmo), as can the old-school light-hearted sexism. People here would never know that JAM is still being made.

And perhaps the ABC has finally reached the limit of the infinite-repeat licence it must have. Although they will persist with the Goons - this must be on a 2-3 year repeat cycle.

Jeremy

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Topic: Re: ABC schedule change

Message 2 / 5
SimonJan 9, 2013

--- In just-a-minute@..., Jeremy Keens wrote:

>
> Hi
>
> Just out of interest, how many of you who are going to complain listened to
> JAM on the ABC? The service isn't designed as a source for better
> recordings for fans, but as a service to listeners (primarily in
> Australia, but also now through the net). I know my partner who
> often uses radio national to help her through insomnia dreads
> waking at near to 5 as the comedies don't interest her.
> My sister, however, wakes up to listen to them.

I haven't on the grounds that I'm British and live in Germany. If I were Australian or lived in Australia I may feel more entitled.

That said, I understand what you are saying, but JAM fans are part of the listnership, not a separate group. We are as entitled to express our views as much as any listener. No-one's getting angry at ABC's decision; they're being politely reminded that some of their listeners like it, not forced to keep it on the air against their will.

I would expect overseas listerners views to weigh less highly than those of Australian residents though.

> And maybe some people are getting tires of all the old JAMs:
> the 'fab' four were excellent but each of their styles can
> be grating (I never really warmed to Derek Nimmo), as can
> the old-school light-hearted sexism. People
> here would never know that JAM is still being made.

So, only the dedicated get to hear the latest episodes, through the BBC website then?

> And perhaps the ABC has finally reached the limit of the
> infinite-repeat licence it must have. Although they will
> persist with the Goons - this must be on a 2-3 year repeat cycle.

I can listen to the Goons, but it never really drew me in.

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Topic: Re: ABC schedule change

Message 3 / 5
Jeremy KeensJan 10, 2013

Hi Simon

My point was that perhaps too obscure - I agree that someone listening to the ABC has a right to complain (wherever they are) as the shows are now 'broadcast' everywhere. Perhaps more weight to local complaints, but then that would still be the bulk anyway. What got my goat a bit was the poster who didn't even know what the station was. The lure of the slightly cleaner copy.

Yep - iplayer (or this list) is the only way to hear - I think it is a shame because the new series have a lot to offer, not the least getting to know many of the current comedians.

I enjoyed the goons, but can't see why they would want to be broadcast not stop. Similarly they are continuing with My Word (perhaps the $) which seems slow, forced and again there are probably people who can recite the 'off the cuff' stories or at least read along with the versions which came out in book form in the 70s. And at the moment QI is slotted into any free 30 minutes on TV - the next week it is on at 8 every night. And the show too often descends into the laddish mire which is currently being debated re comedy/comment shows at the moment (few women, they get to say less, double (or single) entendre rules). And if you think Stephen Fry is a supercilious bore, whose faux self denigration annoying (i read the second volume of memoirs and got so cross about how wonderful everyone else is and how I don't know how poor little talentless me is doing as well as I am) then it is even worse. They have played a handful of would I lie to you's, and bugger all else.

Slight rant, off with my head.

Just by the way, why do people collect the news quiz or now show - it's called topical for a reason

Jeremy

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Topic: Re: ABC schedule change

Message 4 / 5
Don JudgeJan 10, 2013

> why do people collect the news quiz or now show - it's called topical for a reason

They are also called 'comedy' for a reason...

From: Jeremy Keens <jeremy.keens@...>
To: simon.jerram@...; "just-a-minute@..." <just-a-minute@...>
Sent: Thursday, 10 January 2013, 23:17
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: ABC schedule change

Hi Simon

My point was that perhaps too obscure - I agree that someone listening to the ABC has a right to complain (wherever they are) as the shows are now 'broadcast' everywhere. Perhaps more weight to local complaints, but then that would still be the bulk anyway. What got my goat a bit was the poster who didn't even know what the station was. The lure of the slightly cleaner copy.

Yep - iplayer (or this list) is the only way to hear - I think it is a shame because the new series have a lot to offer, not the least getting to know many of the current comedians.

I enjoyed the goons, but can't see why they would want to be broadcast not stop. Similarly they are continuing with My Word (perhaps the $) which seems slow, forced and again there are probably people who can recite the 'off the cuff' stories or at least read along with the versions which came out in book form in the 70s. And at the moment QI is slotted into any free 30 minutes on TV - the next week it is on at 8 every night. And the show too often descends into the laddish mire which is currently being debated re comedy/comment shows at the moment (few women, they get to say less, double (or single) entendre rules). And if you think Stephen Fry is a supercilious bore, whose faux self denigration annoying (i read the second volume of memoirs and got so cross about how wonderful everyone else is and how I don't know how poor little talentless me is doing as well as I am) then it is even worse. They have played a handful of would I lie to you's, and bugger all else.

Slight rant, off with my head.

Just by the way, why do people collect the news quiz or now show - it's called topical for a reason

Jeremy

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Topic: Re: ABC schedule change

Message 5 / 5
nylonJan 10, 2013

Ooh! 'Ere's a lad who's willing to pay for the whole 30 minute argument, not just the 5 minute one!

On 11 January 2013 10:17, Jeremy Keens <jeremy.keens@...> wrote:

Hi Simon

My point was that perhaps too obscure - I agree that someone listening to the ABC has a right to complain (wherever they are) as the shows are now 'broadcast' everywhere. Perhaps more weight to local complaints, but then that would still be the bulk anyway. What got my goat a bit was the poster who didn't even know what the station was. The lure of the slightly cleaner copy.

Yep - iplayer (or this list) is the only way to hear - I think it is a shame because the new series have a lot to offer, not the least getting to know many of the current comedians.

I enjoyed the goons, but can't see why they would want to be broadcast not stop. Similarly they are continuing with My Word (perhaps the $) which seems slow, forced and again there are probably people who can recite the 'off the cuff' stories or at least read along with the versions which came out in book form in the 70s. And at the moment QI is slotted into any free 30 minutes on TV - the next week it is on at 8 every night. And the show too often descends into the laddish mire which is currently being debated re comedy/comment shows at the moment (few women, they get to say less, double (or single) entendre rules). And if you think Stephen Fry is a supercilious bore, whose faux self denigration annoying (i read the second volume of memoirs and got so cross about how wonderful everyone else is and how I don't know how poor little talentless me is doing as well as I am) then it is even worse. They have played a handful of would I lie to you's, and bugger all else.

Slight rant, off with my head.

Just by the way, why do people collect the news quiz or now show - it's called topical for a reason

Jeremy,_._,___

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Mark
mark@...
http://nylon.net

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