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Re: Mislabeled JAM TV Programme?

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martin_e_hoodJun 3, 2013
 

 
OK. It's not that simple since renumbering episodes 16 - 20 then makes the titles embedded in the videos inconsistent with the episode guide.

Another way of treating what happened is that the superseded program, 'Saying Sorry' be slotted in as episode 15 even though it was broadcast out of sequence at a later date. This just requires a straight swap of the two episodes in the listing, a change of the broadcast date and the inclusion of a note to explain the the reason for the discrepancy.

There is precedent for this approach to cataloging. The broadcast of an episode of The Goon Show, 'The Sleeping Prince', was deferred for three months due political sensitivities at the time, but is still generally sequenced according to when it WOULD have been first broadcast.

I commend this option for your consideration Dean.

Best regards,

Martin

--- In just-a-minute@..., "martin_e_hood" <mhood@...> wrote:
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> Excellent detective work Simon! It is great to get a listing like this that confirms the other entries in Dean's episode guide, clarifies the skipped broadcast on 1999.05.07 and confirms that a broadcast occurred on 1999.05.26.
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> Charlie's subsequent post analyses the options.
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> I agree with his analysis as it is the simplest solution, and hence usually the correct one.
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> 1999.04.20 s03e02 'What I'd really like to Talk About' (Hawks/Richard/Frost/Balding) (as in the video itself)
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> 1999.05.26 s03e20 'Saying Sorry' (Vranch/Goddard/Morton/O'Connor)
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> With the current episodes 16-20 being renamed 15-19.
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> As an aside, for this series, there is an indication of some forward planning for the actual broadcast date. In the episode:
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> JAM TV - 1999-04-23 s03e05 #033 - St George's Day
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> Nicholas says 'I've just realised something. The subject is so apt for today because it is St George's Day'.
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> This indicates that the broadcast date for (at least) this episode must have been known or planned in advance. It is rare for such definitively date identifying statements to exist in panel game programs.
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> Thanks again Simon for the information required to resolve this issue. I also look forward to any treasures you may unearth from your collection of VHS tapes.
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> Martin
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> --- In just-a-minute@..., "Simon B Kelly" <simonbkelly@> wrote:
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> > I've checked the BBC Programme Archive database and copied the production IDs, broadcast dates and guests for the 20 episodes shown in 1999. They are as follows:
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> > NBHJ182 [1999-04-20] Tony HAWKS, Clare BALDING, Wendy RICHARD & Stephen FROST
> > NBHJ183 [1999-04-29] Tony HAWKS, Clare BALDING, Wendy RICHARD & Stephen FROST
> > NBHJ184 [1999-04-26] Barry CRYER, Wendy RICHARD, Stephen FROST & Tony HAWKS
> > NBHJ185 [1999-05-10] Barry CRYER, Wendy RICHARD, Stephen FROST & Tony HAWKS
> > NBHJ186 [1999-04-19] Barry CRYER, Su POLLARD, Brian SEWELL & John SERGEANT
> > NBHJ187 [1999-04-30] Barry CRYER, Su POLLARD, Brian SEWELL & John SERGEANT
> > NBHJ188 [1999-05-12] Tony HAWKS, Jo BRAND, Gyles BRANDRETH & Peter JONES
> > NBHJ189 [1999-04-23] Tony HAWKS, Jo BRAND, Gyles BRANDRETH & Peter JONES
> > NBHJ190 [1999-04-28] Liza GODDARD, Richard MORTON, Richard VRANCH & Tom O'CONNOR
> > NBHJ191 [1999-05-26] Liza GODDARD, Richard MORTON, Richard VRANCH & Tom O'CONNOR
> > NBHJ192 [1999-05-05] Liza GODDARD, Richard MORTON, Ken BRUCE & Gyles BRANDRETH
> > NBHJ193 [1999-05-14] Liza GODDARD, Richard MORTON, Ken BRUCE & Gyles BRANDRETH
> > NBHJ194 [1999-04-21] Linda SMITH, Gary WILMOT, Isla BLAIR & Gyles BRANDRETH
> > NBHJ195 [1999-05-03] Linda SMITH, Gary WILMOT, Isla BLAIR & Gyles BRANDRETH
> > NBHJ196 [1999-04-22] Linda SMITH, Peter JONES, Wendy RICHARD & Pam AYRES
> > NBHJ197 [1999-05-06] Linda SMITH, Peter JONES, Wendy RICHARD & Pam AYRES
> > NBHJ198 [1999-04-27] Linda SMITH, Michael CASHMAN, Peter JONES & Maria MCERLANE
> > NBHJ199 [1999-05-11] Linda SMITH, Michael CASHMAN, Peter JONES & Maria MCERLANE
> > NBHJ200 [1999-05-04] Linda SMITH, Steve PUNT, Wendy RICHARD & Maria MCERLANE
> > NBHJ201 [1999-05-13] Linda SMITH, Steve PUNT, Wendy RICHARD & Maria MCERLANE
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> > I've listed them by production IDs which is presumably the order they were recorded in. IIRC, Nicholas mentioned in his book that the whole series was done in a week which would suggest 4 shows a day!
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> > There was definitely no episode of Just A Minute shown on Friday, 7th May - in its place was a 95 minute election special entitled "Vote 99". That meant there was one odd episode that was eventually screened at 12.30pm on Wednesday, 26th May - a couple of weeks after the series has finished!
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> > I have verified the broadcast dates using programme listings published in The Times daily newspaper.
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> > --- In just-a-minute@..., "martin_e_hood" <mhood@> wrote:
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> > > Thanks to Dean for his input.
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> > > Can anyone confirm the provenance (original source) of these recordings or provide independent verification of the program broadcast dates and content?
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> > > There is precious little information in the 1999 Radio Times listings and certainly nothing that would help identify individual episodes.
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