Just A Minute

--- In just-a-minute@..., <just-a-minute@...> wrote:

Hi

I was wondering if anyone has data-mined Dean's transcripts to find out how many full minutes were actually correct as per the rules (not repetition in particular; deviation is very subjective and hesitation harder to judge on a transcript) rather than being uninterrupted minutes. i was wondering because while listening to Paul's minute during porridge I felt that there were a couple of egregious repetitions (not little words but nouns if I remember right) which would generally be picked up.

On the flip side there are, of course, those interrupted minutes where it is an incorrect (particularly humorous ones) challenge  here the speaker obviously has the advantage of a break (though also the disadvantage of broken flow).

Anyway - about to listen to the recent triple minute with critical ears (thanks jamjar)

Jeremy

--- In just-a-minute@..., <sirnylon@...> wrote:

Give me an actual,  real, perfect, honest minute to think about this...

On 12 September 2013 10:41, Jeremy Keens <jeremy.keens@...> wrote:

 

Hi

And noted this in my original post.

To be stupidly pedantic, however, this is (obviously) immeasurable:

where an interruption is purely for humorous purposes it could be argued that the person may have gone on. But a challenge that was made honestly wouldn't count.

In either case an interruption gives the speaker time to regroup - and you would need to discount ones where they changed the direction of the answer.

And perhaps every minute could have been perfect, so the only ones you can be sure of are those where either the speaker stopped for humorous effect or they petered out and either stopped or beseeched interruption..

perhaps there are at least 6 categories of minutes (a non-minute is from the inital start to the first interruption)

actually perfect minutes {measurable}

imperfect perfect minutes {measurable}

humorously incorrectly challenged non-minutes that would have been perfect (or even imperfect) minutes (hmm - 2 subsubcategories?)

honestly incorrectly challenged non-minutes that would have been perfect (or even imperfect) minutes (ditto)

correctly challenged non-minutes {measurable}

self-defeating non-minutes {measurable}

Having done that I see we could actually count the number of minutes that were interrupted incorrectly and therefore could have been a perfect minute. Unless we can get wormholes to some of the parallel universes where these interruptions did not occur, we would not be able to say how many could have gone on to perfect minutes (and anyway, the number would not be valid, as the other perfect minutes may not have happened in those universes (Though if someone could do a recording from those universes where KW was still alive and PM somehow got on the show it could be quite interesting).

finally, before i get back to some real work, perhaps we could bring in some perfect minute classification

Golden minute - one where we can agree there was no rule breaking

Silver minute - OK, no-one interrupted but there was at least one infraction

Bronze minute - the sometimes 'gentlemanly' and often scurrilous practice of letting someone go on without interrupting

Jeremy

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On 12 September 2013 07:40, Don Judge <don@...> wrote:

 

And to put the counter argument...

How many times has a perfect minute been spoilt by an incorrect challenge?

 

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Mark

JAM Jar - http://jamjar.nylon.net - see the JAM forum for login credentials

JAM forum - http://b9fx.com

--- In just-a-minute@..., <simon.jerram@...> wrote:

I heard Nicholas's description of the first successful minute was good "Without being challenged by the others." It's the most sensible criterea IMO- the challenge isn't to keep within the rules, but to get away with it.

--- In just-a-minute@..., <sirnylon@...> wrote:

Give me an actual,  real, perfect, honest minute to think about this...

On 12 September 2013 10:41, Jeremy Keens <jeremy.keens@...> wrote:

 

Hi

And noted this in my original post.

To be stupidly pedantic, however, this is (obviously) immeasurable:

where an interruption is purely for humorous purposes it could be argued that the person may have gone on. But a challenge that was made honestly wouldn't count.

In either case an interruption gives the speaker time to regroup - and you would need to discount ones where they changed the direction of the answer.

And perhaps every minute could have been perfect, so the only ones you can be sure of are those where either the speaker stopped for humorous effect or they petered out and either stopped or beseeched interruption..

perhaps there are at least 6 categories of minutes (a non-minute is from the inital start to the first interruption)

actually perfect minutes {measurable}

imperfect perfect minutes {measurable}

humorously incorrectly challenged non-minutes that would have been perfect (or even imperfect) minutes (hmm - 2 subsubcategories?)

honestly incorrectly challenged non-minutes that would have been perfect (or even imperfect) minutes (ditto)

correctly challenged non-minutes {measurable}

self-defeating non-minutes {measurable}

Having done that I see we could actually count the number of minutes that were interrupted incorrectly and therefore could have been a perfect minute. Unless we can get wormholes to some of the parallel universes where these interruptions did not occur, we would not be able to say how many could have gone on to perfect minutes (and anyway, the number would not be valid, as the other perfect minutes may not have happened in those universes (Though if someone could do a recording from those universes where KW was still alive and PM somehow got on the show it could be quite interesting).

finally, before i get back to some real work, perhaps we could bring in some perfect minute classification

Golden minute - one where we can agree there was no rule breaking

Silver minute - OK, no-one interrupted but there was at least one infraction

Bronze minute - the sometimes 'gentlemanly' and often scurrilous practice of letting someone go on without interrupting

Jeremy

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On 12 September 2013 07:40, Don Judge <don@...> wrote:

 

And to put the counter argument...

How many times has a perfect minute been spoilt by an incorrect challenge?

 

--

Mark

JAM Jar - http://jamjar.nylon.net - see the JAM forum for login credentials

JAM forum - http://b9fx.com