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Topic: #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth

Message 1 / 25
MarkMar 24, 2014
 
 
What an cringeworthy moment at about the 16:00 mark when Nicholas asks Rebecca how to pronounce her surname!

--
Mark
JAM Jar - http://jamjar.nylon.net - see the JAM forum for login credentials
JAM forum - http://b9fx.com

 
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Topic: Re: #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth

Message 2 / 25
simonbkellyMar 25, 2014
 
 
I was surprised that they left that part in. Also the Scottish Polish joke from Nicholas which wasn't that funny.

If you compare the list of subjects they recorded that evening (see my earlier posts on Series 68) you'll see they edited out the final round, "Present and Correct". This is why you don't hear Nicholas say, "and we're moving in to the final round" in this episode...

Simon
 
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Topic: Re: #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth

Message 3 / 25
DeanMar 25, 2014
 
 
I was also surprised they left it in. They left in a fair bit of Nicholas’s rambles and just thinking about it – I wonder if he felt the programme wasn’t going all that well and was trying to inject something in.
 
The shows with Sheila and Josie were fantastic – they should be on much more often. And the Paul/Gyles/Tony shows were also very good. But really, none of the three this week were especially strong and there wasn’t any chemistry or good banter between them. So maybe Nicholas was just trying to do something to save the shows... but I didn’t feel it worked either.
 
 
 
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 12:17 AM
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth
 
 

I was surprised that they left that part in. Also the Scottish Polish joke from Nicholas which wasn't that funny.

If you compare the list of subjects they recorded that evening (see my earlier posts on Series 68) you'll see they edited out the final round, "Present and Correct". This is why you don't hear Nicholas say, "and we're moving in to the final round" in this episode...

Simon


 
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Topic: Re: #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth

Message 4 / 25
simonbkellyMar 25, 2014
 
 
Well, the Paul/Alun/Rebecca/Russell shows were the first of Series 68 to be recorded (back in December 2013). It had been three months since the last series had aired and the only JAM Nicholas had done in between was the Junior edition.

I was there with one of my sons and we both enjoyed seeing the recordings. My son thought Russell was the best panelist. Russell waves his arms around when playing the game which you don't get to see on the radio. I actually thought Alun was the better performer - he was very quick-witted and came up with some great jokes. Paul managed the only complete minute of the evening, playing brilliantly as always. Rebecca almost managed a complete minute but, as a first-timer, struggled to keep up with the boys. I'm sure she'll do better if they invite her back this year.

I do think they should have included the final round and edited out some of the rambling, though...

Simon
 
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Topic: Re: #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth

Message 5 / 25
DeanMar 25, 2014
 
 
 
 
just while we are on the subject of Nicholas and possible errors.
 
Usually as we know, the four take turns to start each round. It’s not always exactly symmetrical as they edit a round out here and there. But there was an unusual instance in last week’s show.
 
here are the rounds and the panellist who started each one...
 
April showers – Josie
 
ambience – Sheila
 
unanswerable questions – Richard
 
a sporting bet – Paul
 
the very first telephone – Josie
 
the best ingredients for breakfast in bed – Sheila
 
growing tomatoes – Sheila
 
analysing a joke – Paul
 
connecting the dots – Josie
yes, Sheila started the “growing tomatoes”round, even though she had started the previous one, and it was Richard’s turn.
 
There are three possible explanations...
 
1. they edited out three rounds between  the two rounds.
 
2. they edited in a round from the other recording. Back in the 90s they did this occasionally, but I’m unaware of it being done recently.
 
3. Nicholas misread his notes.
 
I reckon the last explanation is the more likely!

 
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Topic: Re: #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth

Message 6 / 25
DeanMar 25, 2014
 
 
I like Russell, and thought he might go on to be really good at the game after a stellar performance on his debut. But he hasn’t been as good since. On Alun, I think he’s not good enough and he’s had a fair run at it now – 15 shows. Rebecca might be better next time, but I didn’t detect any spark to her performance.
 
 
 
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth
 
 

Well, the Paul/Alun/Rebecca/Russell shows were the first of Series 68 to be recorded (back in December 2013). It had been three months since the last series had aired and the only JAM Nicholas had done in between was the Junior edition.

I was there with one of my sons and we both enjoyed seeing the recordings. My son thought Russell was the best panelist. Russell waves his arms around when playing the game which you don't get to see on the radio. I actually thought Alun was the better performer - he was very quick-witted and came up with some great jokes. Paul managed the only complete minute of the evening, playing brilliantly as always. Rebecca almost managed a complete minute but, as a first-timer, struggled to keep up with the boys. I'm sure she'll do better if they invite her back this year.

I do think they should have included the final round and edited out some of the rambling, though...

Simon


 
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Topic: Re: #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth

Message 7 / 25
nylonMar 25, 2014
 
 
If my half-hearted suspicion is true that some guests (maybe first-timers) are tipped off about the topics in advance, this sudden change in starting speaker would have shaken them up quite a bit! hehehe.


On 26 March 2014 06:42, Dean <dbedford@...> wrote:
 
just while we are on the subject of Nicholas and possible errors.
 
Usually as we know, the four take turns to start each round. It’s not always exactly symmetrical as they edit a round out here and there. But there was an unusual instance in last week’s show.
 
here are the rounds and the panellist who started each one...
 

yes, Sheila started the “growing tomatoes”round, even though she had started the previous one, and it was Richard’s turn.
 
There are three possible explanations...
 
3. Nicholas misread his notes.
 




--

Mark
mark at nylon dot net

 
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Topic: Re: #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth

Message 8 / 25
DeanMar 25, 2014
 
 
when Chris Neill was producer, he said the panellists did get the option of looking at the subjects they would be starting with, about half an hour before the programme.
 
He said most did, but one who didn’t was Clement Freud, who regarded it as against the spirit of the game...
 
 
 
 
 
From: nylon
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth
 
 

If my half-hearted suspicion is true that some guests (maybe first-timers) are tipped off about the topics in advance, this sudden change in starting speaker would have shaken them up quite a bit! hehehe.

 
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Topic: Re: #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth

Message 9 / 25
Steve KenrickMar 26, 2014
 
 
I don't understand why it would be considered a cringeworthy moment.

People often choose to pronounce their surname differently to what might be expected.

Maybe your thought arose because, more often than not, Front would be pronounced to rhyme with punt or similar.


To: just-a-minute@...
From: sirnylon@...
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 10:36:08 +1100
Subject: [just-a-minute] #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth

 

What an cringeworthy moment at about the 16:00 mark when Nicholas asks Rebecca how to pronounce her surname!

--
Mark
JAM Jar - http://jamjar.nylon.net - see the JAM forum for login credentials
JAM forum - http://b9fx.com


 
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Topic: Re: #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth

Message 10 / 25
DeanMar 26, 2014
 
 
I agree with Mark. Firstly, given that he is introducing her, Nicholas should have checked how her name was pronounced. Secondly, his comments suggesting it was an unusual pronunciation were, to use Mark’s word, cringe-worthy. I do wish it had all been edited out.
 
 
 
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 9:07 PM
Subject: RE: [just-a-minute] #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth
 
 

I don't understand why it would be considered a cringeworthy moment.

 
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Topic: Re: #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth

Message 11 / 25
Steve KenrickMar 26, 2014
 
 
Maybe he was having a moment, the symptoms of which would be similar to semantic satiation.

It was probably left in because Rebecca's reposte got a big laugh. 


To: just-a-minute@...
From: dbedford@...
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 22:11:06 +1300
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth

 

I agree with Mark. Firstly, given that he is introducing her, Nicholas should have checked how her name was pronounced. Secondly, his comments suggesting it was an unusual pronunciation were, to use Mark’s word, cringe-worthy. I do wish it had all been edited out.
 
 
 
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 9:07 PM
Subject: RE: [just-a-minute] #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth
 
 

I don't understand why it would be considered a cringeworthy moment.


 
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Topic: Re: #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth

Message 12 / 25
nylonMar 26, 2014
 
 
Rebecca has been around for yonks and the pronunciation of her name is well-known to all. And even if one had never encountered the name "Front", most people would default to its pronunciation as the noun "front."

A mis-saying of her name is not a big issue for me. Nicholas' extended explanation was what became increasingly uncomfortable. I must say I admired Rebecca's restraint as she explained the bleedin' obvious to him.

On Wednesday, March 26, 2014, Steve Kenrick <steve.kenrick@...> wrote:
 

I don't understand why it would be considered a cringeworthy moment.

People often choose to pronounce their surname differently to what might be expected.

Maybe your thought arose because, more often than not, Front would be pronounced to rhyme with punt or similar.


To: just-a-minute@...
From: sirnylon@...
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 10:36:08 +1100
Subject: [just-a-minute] #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth

 

What an cringeworthy moment at about the 16:00 mark when Nicholas asks Rebecca how to pronounce her surname!

--
Mark
JAM Jar - http://jamjar.nylon.net - see the JAM forum for login credentials
JAM forum - http://b9fx.com



--

Mark
mark at nylon dot net
http://nylon.net


 
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Topic: Re: #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth

Message 13 / 25
nylonMar 26, 2014
 
 
Rebecca has been around for yonks and the pronunciation of her name is well-known to all. And even if one had never encountered the name "Front", most people would default to its pronunciation as the noun "front."

A mis-saying of her name is not a big issue for me. Nicholas' extended explanation was what became increasingly uncomfortable. I must say I admired Rebecca's restraint as she explained the bleedin' obvious to him.

On Wednesday, March 26, 2014, Steve Kenrick <steve.kenrick@...> wrote:
 

I don't understand why it would be considered a cringeworthy moment.

People often choose to pronounce their surname differently to what might be expected.

Maybe your thought arose because, more often than not, Front would be pronounced to rhyme with punt or similar.


To: just-a-minute@...
From: sirnylon@...
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 10:36:08 +1100
Subject: [just-a-minute] #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth

 

What an cringeworthy moment at about the 16:00 mark when Nicholas asks Rebecca how to pronounce her surname!

--
Mark
JAM Jar - http://jamjar.nylon.net - see the JAM forum for login credentials
JAM forum - http://b9fx.com



--

Mark
mark at nylon dot net
http://nylon.net


 
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Topic: Re: #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth

Message 14 / 25
Don JudgeMar 26, 2014
 
 
<buzz> Repetition...
 
--
Cheers

Don   __o
      \<,
.....O/ O




From: nylon <sirnylon@...>
To: "just-a-minute@..." <just-a-minute@...>
Sent: Wednesday, 26 March 2014, 9:36
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth



Rebecca has been around for yonks and the pronunciation of her name is well-known to all. And even if one had never encountered the name "Front", most people would default to its pronunciation as the noun "front."

A mis-saying of her name is not a big issue for me. Nicholas' extended explanation was what became increasingly uncomfortable. I must say I admired Rebecca's restraint as she explained the bleedin' obvious to him.

On Wednesday, March 26, 2014, Steve Kenrick <steve.kenrick@...> wrote:
 
I don't understand why it would be considered a cringeworthy moment.

People often choose to pronounce their surname differently to what might be expected.

Maybe your thought arose because, more often than not, Front would be pronounced to rhyme with punt or similar.


To: just-a-minute@...
From: sirnylon@...
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 10:36:08 +1100
Subject: [just-a-minute] #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth

 

What an cringeworthy moment at about the 16:00 mark when Nicholas asks Rebecca how to pronounce her surname!

--
Mark
JAM Jar - http://jamjar.nylon.net - see the JAM forum for login credentials
JAM forum - http://b9fx.com



--

Mark
mark at nylon dot net






 
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Topic: Re: #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth

Message 15 / 25
Bill RobinsonMar 26, 2014
 
 
He did pronounce it kind of as Fronnt at the end of the show. hah.

I always thought he should do the intro to the show without repetition, hesitation or deviation...


On 26 March 2014 10:03, Don Judge <don@...> wrote:
 

<buzz> Repetition...
 
--
Cheers

Don   __o
      \<,
.....O/ O




From: nylon <sirnylon@...>
To: "just-a-minute@..." <just-a-minute@...>
Sent: Wednesday, 26 March 2014, 9:36
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth



Rebecca has been around for yonks and the pronunciation of her name is well-known to all. And even if one had never encountered the name "Front", most people would default to its pronunciation as the noun "front."

A mis-saying of her name is not a big issue for me. Nicholas' extended explanation was what became increasingly uncomfortable. I must say I admired Rebecca's restraint as she explained the bleedin' obvious to him.

On Wednesday, March 26, 2014, Steve Kenrick <steve.kenrick@...> wrote:
 
I don't understand why it would be considered a cringeworthy moment.

People often choose to pronounce their surname differently to what might be expected.

Maybe your thought arose because, more often than not, Front would be pronounced to rhyme with punt or similar.


To: just-a-minute@...
From: sirnylon@...
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 10:36:08 +1100
Subject: [just-a-minute] #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth

 

What an cringeworthy moment at about the 16:00 mark when Nicholas asks Rebecca how to pronounce her surname!

--
Mark
JAM Jar - http://jamjar.nylon.net - see the JAM forum for login credentials
JAM forum - http://b9fx.com



--

Mark
mark at nylon dot net







 
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Topic: Re: #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth

Message 16 / 25
Steve KenrickMar 26, 2014
 
 
She may have been around for yonks, but it would still be a mistake to assume that everybody would pronounce her surname the same way.

Some people just see, hear or say things differently to the rest of us.

A good example of this is the surname of that tennis player whom our Andy beat in the final of Wimbledon 2013.

All of the British commentators, and all of the umpires (certainly at Wimbledon) pronounce the first syllable of his surname to sound like "jock". However, McEnroe and a lot of US commentators pronounce the same syllable to sound like "joke".

Who's right? Who knows?


To: just-a-minute@...
From: sirnylon@...
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 20:33:58 +1100
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth

 
Rebecca has been around for yonks and the pronunciation of her name is well-known to all. And even if one had never encountered the name "Front", most people would default to its pronunciation as the noun "front."

A mis-saying of her name is not a big issue for me. Nicholas' extended explanation was what became increasingly uncomfortable. I must say I admired Rebecca's restraint as she explained the bleedin' obvious to him.

On Wednesday, March 26, 2014, Steve Kenrick <steve.kenrick@...> wrote:
 

I don't understand why it would be considered a cringeworthy moment.

People often choose to pronounce their surname differently to what might be expected.

Maybe your thought arose because, more often than not, Front would be pronounced to rhyme with punt or similar.


To: just-a-minute@...
From: sirnylon@...
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 10:36:08 +1100
Subject: [just-a-minute] #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth

 

What an cringeworthy moment at about the 16:00 mark when Nicholas asks Rebecca how to pronounce her surname!

--
Mark
JAM Jar - http://jamjar.nylon.net - see the JAM forum for login credentials
JAM forum - http://b9fx.com




--

Mark
mark at nylon dot net



 
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Topic: Re: #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth

Message 17 / 25
Bill RobinsonMar 26, 2014
 
 
Heh. My wife is Bosnian-Serb and she pronounces it Новак Ђоковић (as in "jock"). Americans just don't seem to get on with that open back rounded 'o' sound sometimes. Well, that's a good half hour wasted reading random articles and listening to all kinds of vowels when I should be making dinner!

Just don't get started on the ć/ћ (ch) vs č/ч (ch) which sound identical to me.




On 26 March 2014 16:45, Steve Kenrick <steve.kenrick@...> wrote:
 

She may have been around for yonks, but it would still be a mistake to assume that everybody would pronounce her surname the same way.

Some people just see, hear or say things differently to the rest of us.

A good example of this is the surname of that tennis player whom our Andy beat in the final of Wimbledon 2013.

All of the British commentators, and all of the umpires (certainly at Wimbledon) pronounce the first syllable of his surname to sound like "jock". However, McEnroe and a lot of US commentators pronounce the same syllable to sound like "joke".

Who's right? Who knows?

Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 20:33:58 +1100

Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth

 
Rebecca has been around for yonks and the pronunciation of her name is well-known to all. And even if one had never encountered the name "Front", most people would default to its pronunciation as the noun "front."

A mis-saying of her name is not a big issue for me. Nicholas' extended explanation was what became increasingly uncomfortable. I must say I admired Rebecca's restraint as she explained the bleedin' obvious to him.

On Wednesday, March 26, 2014, Steve Kenrick <steve.kenrick@...> wrote:
 

I don't understand why it would be considered a cringeworthy moment.

People often choose to pronounce their surname differently to what might be expected.

Maybe your thought arose because, more often than not, Front would be pronounced to rhyme with punt or similar.


To: just-a-minute@...
From: sirnylon@...
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 10:36:08 +1100
Subject: [just-a-minute] #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth

 

What an cringeworthy moment at about the 16:00 mark when Nicholas asks Rebecca how to pronounce her surname!

--
Mark
JAM Jar - http://jamjar.nylon.net - see the JAM forum for login credentials
JAM forum - http://b9fx.com




--

Mark
mark at nylon dot net




 
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Topic: Re: #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth

Message 18 / 25
James R CurryMar 26, 2014
 
 
I didn't find it particularly cringeworthy, although I found the story that Nicholas went into to be somewhat pointless...

I enjoyed the episode, by the way.  Okay, certainly not the best, but parts were entertaining enough.


On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Bill Robinson <airbaggins@...> wrote:


Heh. My wife is Bosnian-Serb and she pronounces it Новак Ђоковић (as in "jock"). Americans just don't seem to get on with that open back rounded 'o' sound sometimes. Well, that's a good half hour wasted reading random articles and listening to all kinds of vowels when I should be making dinner!

Just don't get started on the ć/ћ (ch) vs č/ч (ch) which sound identical to me.




On 26 March 2014 16:45, Steve Kenrick <steve.kenrick@...> wrote:
 

She may have been around for yonks, but it would still be a mistake to assume that everybody would pronounce her surname the same way.

Some people just see, hear or say things differently to the rest of us.

A good example of this is the surname of that tennis player whom our Andy beat in the final of Wimbledon 2013.

All of the British commentators, and all of the umpires (certainly at Wimbledon) pronounce the first syllable of his surname to sound like "jock". However, McEnroe and a lot of US commentators pronounce the same syllable to sound like "joke".

Who's right? Who knows?

Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 20:33:58 +1100

Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth

 
Rebecca has been around for yonks and the pronunciation of her name is well-known to all. And even if one had never encountered the name "Front", most people would default to its pronunciation as the noun "front."

A mis-saying of her name is not a big issue for me. Nicholas' extended explanation was what became increasingly uncomfortable. I must say I admired Rebecca's restraint as she explained the bleedin' obvious to him.

On Wednesday, March 26, 2014, Steve Kenrick <steve.kenrick@...> wrote:
 

I don't understand why it would be considered a cringeworthy moment.

People often choose to pronounce their surname differently to what might be expected.

Maybe your thought arose because, more often than not, Front would be pronounced to rhyme with punt or similar.


To: just-a-minute@...
From: sirnylon@...
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 10:36:08 +1100
Subject: [just-a-minute] #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth

 

What an cringeworthy moment at about the 16:00 mark when Nicholas asks Rebecca how to pronounce her surname!

--
Mark
JAM Jar - http://jamjar.nylon.net - see the JAM forum for login credentials
JAM forum - http://b9fx.com




--

Mark
mark at nylon dot net








--
James R Curry

 
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Topic: Re: #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth

Message 19 / 25
Steve KenrickMar 26, 2014
 
 
Thanks for the info Bill, but your point about Americans not getting on with the open back rounded 'o' sound, doesn't hold water.

How many films and tv shows do you think you have seen where Americans refer to athletes as jocks? I have no idea how many I've seen but I do know that in all of them jocks was pronounced as "jocks" and not "jokes".

Equally, I've never heard an American, when referring to the things he puts on his feet before his shoes, call them "sokes" and not socks.  


To: just-a-minute@...
From: airbaggins@...
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 20:00:45 +0000
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth

 

Heh. My wife is Bosnian-Serb and she pronounces it Новак Ђоковић (as in "jock"). Americans just don't seem to get on with that open back rounded 'o' sound sometimes. Well, that's a good half hour wasted reading random articles and listening to all kinds of vowels when I should be making dinner!

Just don't get started on the ć/ћ (ch) vs č/ч (ch) which sound identical to me.




On 26 March 2014 16:45, Steve Kenrick <steve.kenrick@...> wrote:
 

She may have been around for yonks, but it would still be a mistake to assume that everybody would pronounce her surname the same way.

Some people just see, hear or say things differently to the rest of us.

A good example of this is the surname of that tennis player whom our Andy beat in the final of Wimbledon 2013.

All of the British commentators, and all of the umpires (certainly at Wimbledon) pronounce the first syllable of his surname to sound like "jock". However, McEnroe and a lot of US commentators pronounce the same syllable to sound like "joke".

Who's right? Who knows?

Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 20:33:58 +1100

Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth

 
Rebecca has been around for yonks and the pronunciation of her name is well-known to all. And even if one had never encountered the name "Front", most people would default to its pronunciation as the noun "front."

A mis-saying of her name is not a big issue for me. Nicholas' extended explanation was what became increasingly uncomfortable. I must say I admired Rebecca's restraint as she explained the bleedin' obvious to him.

On Wednesday, March 26, 2014, Steve Kenrick <steve.kenrick@...> wrote:
 

I don't understand why it would be considered a cringeworthy moment.

People often choose to pronounce their surname differently to what might be expected.

Maybe your thought arose because, more often than not, Front would be pronounced to rhyme with punt or similar.


To: just-a-minute@...
From: sirnylon@...
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 10:36:08 +1100
Subject: [just-a-minute] #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth

 

What an cringeworthy moment at about the 16:00 mark when Nicholas asks Rebecca how to pronounce her surname!

--
Mark
JAM Jar - http://jamjar.nylon.net - see the JAM forum for login credentials
JAM forum - http://b9fx.com




--

Mark
mark at nylon dot net






 
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Topic: Re: #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth

Message 20 / 25
MarkMar 26, 2014
 
 
On 27 March 2014 03:45, Steve Kenrick <steve.kenrick@...> wrote:
 

Who's right? Who knows?


Rebecca is. Rebecca does.

 


To: just-a-minute@...
From: sirnylon@...
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 20:33:58 +1100
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth

 
Rebecca has been around for yonks and the pronunciation of her name is well-known to all. And even if one had never encountered the name "Front", most people would default to its pronunciation as the noun "front."

A mis-saying of her name is not a big issue for me. Nicholas' extended explanation was what became increasingly uncomfortable. I must say I admired Rebecca's restraint as she explained the bleedin' obvious to him.

On Wednesday, March 26, 2014, Steve Kenrick <steve.kenrick@...> wrote:
 

I don't understand why it would be considered a cringeworthy moment.

People often choose to pronounce their surname differently to what might be expected.

Maybe your thought arose because, more often than not, Front would be pronounced to rhyme with punt or similar.


To: just-a-minute@...
From: sirnylon@...
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 10:36:08 +1100
Subject: [just-a-minute] #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth

 

What an cringeworthy moment at about the 16:00 mark when Nicholas asks Rebecca how to pronounce her surname!

--
Mark
JAM Jar - http://jamjar.nylon.net - see the JAM forum for login credentials
JAM forum - http://b9fx.com




--

Mark
mark at nylon dot net


--
Mark
JAM Jar - http://jamjar.nylon.net - see the JAM forum for login credentials
JAM forum - http://b9fx.com

 
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Topic: Re: #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth

Message 21 / 25
Steve KenrickMar 26, 2014
 
 
And I'm sure that Nicholas now feels better informed than before the recording.


To: just-a-minute@...
From: sirnylon@...
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 09:53:51 +1100
Subject: Re: [just-a-minute] Re: #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth

 

On 27 March 2014 03:45, Steve Kenrick <steve.kenrick@...> wrote:
 

Who's right? Who knows?


Rebecca is. Rebecca does.

 


To: just-a-minute@...
From: sirnylon@...
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 20:33:58 +1100
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth

 
Rebecca has been around for yonks and the pronunciation of her name is well-known to all. And even if one had never encountered the name "Front", most people would default to its pronunciation as the noun "front."

A mis-saying of her name is not a big issue for me. Nicholas' extended explanation was what became increasingly uncomfortable. I must say I admired Rebecca's restraint as she explained the bleedin' obvious to him.

On Wednesday, March 26, 2014, Steve Kenrick <steve.kenrick@...> wrote:
 

I don't understand why it would be considered a cringeworthy moment.

People often choose to pronounce their surname differently to what might be expected.

Maybe your thought arose because, more often than not, Front would be pronounced to rhyme with punt or similar.


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Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 10:36:08 +1100
Subject: [just-a-minute] #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth

 

What an cringeworthy moment at about the 16:00 mark when Nicholas asks Rebecca how to pronounce her surname!

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mat_bagnallMar 27, 2014
 
 
I found it to be a strange very average show as Paul seemed to me to only wake up half way thru and proceed to trounce the other 3 who offered very little. It kind of just meandered along. I don't recall Russell bringing much to the show and am surprised to find this was his 64th appearance.

I presume the edited out round either offered little and was deemed surplus to requirements or they wanted to keep in Rebecca's response, tho it could have been edited down. You could almost see tumbleweed during Nic's golf ball anedote but might have been included to bring the length of the episode up.

The other episodes of series 68 have been good and its always great to have Sheila on.

 
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Message 23 / 25
DeanMar 27, 2014
 
 
thanks for picking up my typo! It was Russell’s 6th show.
 
 
 
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 2:54 AM
Subject: [just-a-minute] Re: #825 - Nicholas' foot-in-mouth
 
 

I found it to be a strange very average show as Paul seemed to me to only wake up half way thru and proceed to trounce the other 3 who offered very little. It kind of just meandered along. I don't recall Russell bringing much to the show and am surprised to find this was his 64th appearance.


 
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pondydaveApr 1, 2014
 
 

My twopenn'orth is that Nic was extending a courtesy to Rebecca - Front is a surname I have never heard of before. Coming from Lancashire, I would pronounce Front as in Shunt, certainly not as in Frond. As Rebecca explained it was a Polish name all the more reason for the asking. I quite like Nic's trips down memory lane. There aren't a lot of folk left, a lot less still broadcasting, who have memories of the Second World War.


Best wishes,


Dave


 
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Message 25 / 25
MarkApr 1, 2014
 
 
The odd thing is that when Rebecca appeared earlier in the same series (#820) , he got her name right with no fuss or bother!


On 1 April 2014 22:34, <pondydave@...> wrote:
 

My twopenn'orth is that Nic was extending a courtesy to Rebecca - Front is a surname I have never heard of before. Coming from Lancashire, I would pronounce Front as in Shunt, certainly not as in Frond. As Rebecca explained it was a Polish name all the more reason for the asking. 

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